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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on November 26, 2010, 09:08:43 AM
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-26-10 09:00 AM
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I have a novel idea on how to handle the Korean peninsula situation
Edited on Fri Nov-26-10 09:05 AM by NNN0LHI
How about we end this perpetual state of war that we have kept in place for over 60 years and send a delegation of bureaucrats to North Korea to sue for peace? It sure would be nice if we could accomplish this while we don't have all the rapture ready republicans running this county. Wouldn't it be?
So, what do you think? Sound too radical for ya?
Don
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suing_for_peace
Suing for peace
Suing for peace is an act by a warring nation to initiate a peace process in which the peace terms are more favorable than an unconditional surrender. Suing for peace is usually initiated by the losing party in an attempt to stave off an unconditional surrender, and may sometimes be favorable to the winning nation, as winning a war in a complete or unconditional surrender may be costly.
However, pressing for peace may sometimes be started by the winning faction as a means to end the war for several reasons, such as where additional conflict would not be in the perceived best interest of the winning party. In this case, demands might be made, or the two nations may agree to a white peace.
Edit for bad grammar
:thatsright:
LARED (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-26-10 09:10 AM
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4. Sounds like a modern form of tribute
We pay off N Korea in order to stop the aggression. Sounds expensive and doomed to failure
NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-26-10 09:11 AM
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5. Does a nuclear war sound cheaper and more successful to you?
LARED (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-26-10 09:15 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. What makes you think paying them off will prevent
a war? Nuclear or otherwise.
NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-26-10 09:24 AM
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8. Because after we sue for peace we aren't at war with them any more
The potential for gun play goes way down when someone is an ally instead of an enemy.
Doesn't it?
Don
LARED (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-26-10 09:36 AM
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10. I guess we have a different view
N. Korea has had the ability for about 50 years to tell the world, hey we would like to step out form our isolation. I just don't see how paying them off makes them an ally.
Is the local merchant paying tribute to the local street gang, an ally? Not in my book.
geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-26-10 09:41 AM
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11. How does that make them an ally?
NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-26-10 09:46 AM
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13. Like we became allies with Japan, Germany and Italy after conducting a world war with them
It is hard to grasp that level of idiocy.
Pavulon (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-26-10 09:44 AM
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12. You dont give the dog a treat when it shits on the floor..
that is the north korean cycle, **** up and get paid off. Looks like we are breaking the cycle.
I say we do nothing and let them collapse. IF they attack the South, Japan, or US assets there will be a war and they will choose whether it goes nuclear.
NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-26-10 09:57 AM
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16. What do you do when that happens? Beat the dog? Did that ever help?
I picked up a stray dog on the side of the road two years ago and she wouldn't listen to one command I gave her. Some people I know would have started beating her or just dumped her somewhere. I didn't. I worked with her and she just got better and better.
And guess what? I discovered last week the reason why she wouldn't(couldn't) listen to me when I found her. She didn't understand what I was saying. Here is a thread about her.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Maybe for decades we have been having a communication problem with North Korea without realizing it and need to try a different approach? Have you even considered that?
Don
:mental: :mental:
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Isn't suing for peace generally what you do when you're on the losing end of an engagement?
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Isn't suing for peace generally what you do when you're on the losing end of an engagement?
Yes, and the DUmmies want us to surrender to all countries.
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LARED (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-26-10 09:10 AM
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4. Sounds like a modern form of tribute
We pay off N Korea in order to stop the aggression. Sounds expensive and doomed to failure
It was expensive and it was doomed for failure. We tired paying them off during the Clintoon administration.
It only emboldened them.
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Isn't the term "white peace" racist?
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He took the dog metaphor a little too literally, didn't he? Don is excrutiatingly naive. He should know better by now, he's about 100 years old, isn't he?
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I have a novel idea....don't bother writing it....that BS won't sell.
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I have a novel idea....don't bother writing it....that BS won't sell.
:lmao: :-)
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-26-10 09:00 AM
Original message
I have a novel idea on how to handle the Korean peninsula situation
Edited on Fri Nov-26-10 09:05 AM by NNN0LHI
How about we end this perpetual state of war that we have kept in place for over 60 years and send a delegation of bureaucrats to North Korea to sue for peace? It sure would be nice if we could accomplish this while we don't have all the rapture ready republicans running this county. Wouldn't it be?
So, what do you think? Sound too radical for ya?
Don
Well, let me put it this way: Some people dig themselves into a hole with stupidity, but in your case it's apparent you hit bedrock some time back, and have been impressively diligent in drilling and blasting for every waking minute since.
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Well, let me put it this way: Some people dig themselves into a hole with stupidity, but in your case it's apparent you hit bedrock some time back, and have been impressively diligent in drilling and blasting for every waking minute since.
And said DUmor is incredibly effective at burrowing into the rock.
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I thought the post last night by Phil the Cat was naive.
Keep it up, DUmmies. I copy these, and send them to my buddy from South Korea, who in turn, laughs his ass off at your stupidity.
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North Korea or in fact Kim Jung Il could give less then a **** what the world thinks. He's going to do what he wants and if that means a war where he loses then so be it.
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How about we just send them a whole bunch of skittle shittin' PonyCornsâ„¢ that fart rainbows ?
That should let them know that we really truly understand them and deeply regret any hostility on our part that may or may not have ever upset them, and that any action they took in retaliation was justified a million times over..
</sarc> (for those that missed it).
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Oh wow! just when you think they can't get any dumber.
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Well, let me put it this way: Some people dig themselves into a hole with stupidity, but in your case it's apparent you hit bedrock some time back, and have been impressively diligent in drilling and blasting for every waking minute since.
I would have thought that this idiot would have dug so far down that he could have heated his house with geothermal by now.
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I would have thought that this idiot would have dug so far down that he could have heated his house with geothermal by now.
Seems to be doing okay with natural gas emissions for the time being.
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Seems to be doing okay with natural gas emissions for the time being.
LOL!! You owe me a monitor and half a beer!
On second thought... what you are really saying is that he is contributing to global warming? :cheersmate: