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Title: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: Thor on November 24, 2010, 10:09:06 AM
It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
by Seton Motley

(http://biggovernment.com/files/2010/11/locked-computer.jpg)

Just this past Friday, we warned you that a Federal Communications Commission (FCC) December Internet power grab was probably coming.

Well, we now know that it is – and it may be even worse than we thought.

Details have been sketchy, and successive reports often contradictory, but what follows is what seems to be looming over us in December.  (We will know for sure on Wednesday, November 24 – if the FCC maintains its current December 15 meeting date.)

FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski appears to be preparing to dramatically increase the FCC’s regulatory role over the Internet (in TWO ways; more on that later).

He is doing so without the necessary Congressional authority – which he himself acknowledges he doesn’t have.  And he is doing so by torturing and twisting the regulatory language he is drafting – so as to keep this extraordinary dictatorial seizure within the current Title I confines.

The latter is for The Chairman merely an optical effort.  If he can feign the appearance of remaining within Title I, he avoids Reclassification to Title II – against which many of us have long been rightly fighting.  He will then portray his fealty to Title I as testament to the alleged “moderation” of his (un)modest proposal.

This will be a totally bogus assertion, but he will make it – and the media will inparrot-esque fashion repeat it.  The Chairman should bring crackers to the press conference.

 More Here (http://biggovernment.com/smotley/2010/11/23/its-official-the-fcc-will-vote-to-take-over-the-internet-in-december/)
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: thundley4 on November 24, 2010, 10:25:59 AM
I guess that the bill to give Lord Zero authority to shut down the internet didn't fly, so his minions have to find other ways to silence the opposition.
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: BlueStateSaint on November 24, 2010, 10:30:28 AM
I guess that the bill to give Lord Zero authority to shut down the internet didn't fly, so his minions have to find other ways to silence the opposition.

Hopefully, the Republican-controlled House will defund the FCC, and keep them from doing this.


Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 24, 2010, 10:48:05 AM
Much less simple to get such regs in place and effective than portrayed, would be immediately challenged in court, probably with a TRO putting the whole thing on hold until judicial review was completed...all kicking off just a month before the House changes hands.

Not that there isn't real reason for concern, but there's a lot of hyperbole and fearmongering in that. 
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: Attero Dominatus on November 24, 2010, 10:56:19 AM
When did I wake up in China?

I hope this gets shot down.
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: cavegal on November 24, 2010, 11:25:08 AM
so we lose this website ?     :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird:
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: Attero Dominatus on November 24, 2010, 12:37:59 PM
so we lose this website ?     :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird:

It would force service providers to toe to the government regulations, and if those regulations include imposing an internet 'fairness doctrine,' then political speech could be censored.
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: cavegal on November 24, 2010, 12:42:15 PM
It would force service providers to toe to the government regulations, and if those regulations include imposing an internet 'fairness doctrine,' then political speech could be censored.
They cannot ever have the truth. It gets in their way for total control.
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: thundley4 on November 24, 2010, 12:50:18 PM
It would force service providers to toe to the government regulations, and if those regulations include imposing an internet 'fairness doctrine,' then political speech could be censored.

Liberals are allowed to sign up and post here, unlike DU.
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: true_blood on November 24, 2010, 12:53:23 PM
When did I wake up in China? I hope this gets shot down.
I know, right?! It seems like everyday, more and more.  :banghead:
(I'll leave it at the before I go off on a rant. :hyper:)
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: Attero Dominatus on November 24, 2010, 03:21:05 PM
I know, right?! It seems like everyday, more and more.  :banghead:
(I'll leave it at the before I go off on a rant. :hyper:)

I remember when the left accused Bush administration and pre-2006 congress of statism. Now they are silent when we are starting to see the real thing under the progressives. **** them :bird:
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: thundley4 on November 24, 2010, 03:33:22 PM
I remember when the left accused Bush administration and pre-2006 congress of statism. Now they are silent when we are starting to see the real thing under the progressives. **** them :bird:

Obama is doing everything the left Accused President Bush of, and more, but they are just acting like sheeple led to the slaughter.
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: Airwolf on November 24, 2010, 04:47:05 PM
If  this did come to pass I can't see it standing up to a lawsuit all the way to SCOTUS
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: rich_t on November 24, 2010, 04:49:11 PM
Man oh man....

That ain't good.  But I can't say I'm surprised that they will attempt it.
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: true_blood on November 24, 2010, 07:44:09 PM
Obama is doing everything the left Accused President Bush of, and more, but they are just acting like sheeple led to the slaughter.
I keep writing that in my posts. DUmmies must be careful for what they ask the zero for. They are getting all that and more. And yet, they slumber on like zombies.
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: formerlurker on November 24, 2010, 07:51:59 PM
Quote
Details have been sketchy, and successive reports often contradictory, but what follows is what seems to be looming over us in December.

WTF??? 
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: thundley4 on November 24, 2010, 08:02:47 PM
I keep writing that in my posts. DUmmies must be careful for what they ask the zero for. They are getting all that and more. And yet, they slumber on like zombies.

Which is one reason I was against some of President's Bush policies. The DUmmies should be doubly worried about how far they let Obama go,  because the next conservative may not treat them as nicely as President Bush did.
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: true_blood on November 24, 2010, 08:33:19 PM
Which is one reason I was against some of President's Bush policies. The DUmmies should be doubly worried about how far they let Obama go,  because the next conservative may not treat them as nicely as President Bush did.
Exactly. We need a TRUE conservative to really turn this ship around.
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: Attero Dominatus on November 24, 2010, 09:02:38 PM
Exactly. We need a TRUE conservative to really turn this ship around.

:yeahthat:
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: JLO on November 27, 2010, 09:21:10 PM
Obama is doing everything the left Accused President Bush of, and more, but they are just acting like sheeple led to the slaughter.

Exactly!   That's why they're the Dummies.   :thatsright:
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: micmac on November 28, 2010, 12:01:54 PM
It makes me nervous when I hear stuff like this. 
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 28, 2010, 04:32:29 PM
This is stuff that was prophesied in the Bible.
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: Thor on November 29, 2010, 12:13:34 AM
This is stuff that was prophesied in the Bible.

The internet was prophesied in the Bible??
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: NHSparky on November 29, 2010, 07:34:17 AM
The internet was prophesied in the Bible??

"The Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"

"Forget it, he's rolling."
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 29, 2010, 11:43:17 AM
The internet was prophesied in the Bible??

The notion that aspect of society is being controlled.
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: ToddWB on December 02, 2010, 10:06:51 AM
Liberals are allowed to sign up and post here, unlike DU.
Ummm..just the tho't of DU not being allowed to kick us off...maybe someone oughta plant that notion over yonder at DU.
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: Eupher on December 02, 2010, 11:22:59 AM
Ummm..just the tho't of DU not being allowed to kick us off...maybe someone oughta plant that notion over yonder at DU.

 :gives:
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: ToddWB on December 10, 2010, 02:58:36 PM
:gives:
WhaaahT? It'd be like poking and ant bed?
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: Janice on December 10, 2010, 04:00:35 PM
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2vb4qs1.jpg)

The 19 Senators Who Voted To Censor The Internet

* Patrick J. Leahy -- Vermont
* Herb Kohl -- Wisconsin
* Jeff Sessions -- Alabama
* Dianne Feinstein -- California
* Orrin G. Hatch -- Utah
* Russ Feingold -- Wisconsin
* Chuck Grassley -- Iowa
* Arlen Specter -- Pennsylvania
* Jon Kyl -- Arizona
* Chuck Schumer -- New York
* Lindsey Graham -- South Carolina
* Dick Durbin -- Illinois
* John Cornyn -- Texas
* Benjamin L. Cardin -- Maryland
* Tom Coburn -- Oklahoma
* Sheldon Whitehouse -- Rhode Island
* Amy Klobuchar -- Minnesota
* Al Franken -- Minnesota
* Chris Coons -- Delaware

This should surprise no one. The Dems have run roughshod over the Constitution every time they gain power. Free speech? Ha, only if it supports Obama and the Dems. Then its ok. Anything else has to be shut down. Just like Sen Rockefeller demanding Fox news get shut down. If you can't rebut with facts, simply kill the messenger. Thats the fascist way.
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 10, 2010, 04:07:56 PM
Even though he has very little gray matter left to write on, JohnnyReb makes another mental note ....get rid of  * Lindsey Graham -- South Carolina.
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: Wineslob on December 10, 2010, 04:13:31 PM
Add FrankenFeinstien to that list.
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: true_blood on December 10, 2010, 04:36:55 PM
Even though he has very little gray matter left to write on, JohnnyReb makes another mental note ....get rid of  * Lindsey Graham -- South Carolina.
Yeah, I can't stand that one.
The LIZARD Lindsey Graham. He's got to go. He's one of those that was pushing the Cap & Trade bill too, wasn't he?
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 10, 2010, 04:43:53 PM
Yeah, I can't stand that one.
The LIZARD Lindsey Graham. He's got to go. He's one of those that was pushing the Cap & Trade bill too, wasn't he?

Yeah, the list is getting longer. That's why I'm running out of mental paper to make notes on.
Title: Re: It’s Official – The FCC Will Vote to Take Over the Internet in December
Post by: Janice on December 10, 2010, 05:30:33 PM
Full text of Comcast v. FCC, (http://www.scribd.com/doc/29489974/Full-Text-Comcast-vs-FCC-Federal-Court-Ruling) April 6, 2010

Quote
In this case we must decide whether the Federal Communications Commission has authority to regulate an Internet service provider’s network management practices. Acknowledging that it has no express statutory authority over such practices, the Commission relies on section 4(i) of the Communications Act of 1934, which authorizes the Commission to “perform any and all acts, make such rules and regulations, and issue such orders, not inconsistent with this chapter, as may be necessary in the execution of its functions.” ... The Commission may exercise this “ancillary” authority only if it demonstrates that its action—here barring Comcast from interfering with its customers’ use of peer-to-peer networking applications—is “reasonably ancillary to the ... effective performance of its statutorily mandated responsibilities." ...

The Commission has failed to make that showing.

Thank God for judicial review. There may be hope yet if we can somehow bypass the go along to get along girly-man republican so called "leadership".