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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-23-10 10:50 AM
Original message
Our country has been stolen from us. Our lives have been stolen from us.
Edited on Tue Nov-23-10 11:26 AM by Cyrano
How secure are you feeling these days? Is your job secure? Are your possesions secure? Are your investments secure? Are you waking up in the middle of the night worrying about the future? Has life become burdensome?
You’re not alone, unless you’re incredibly rich.
At present, whether you want to admit it or not, most of us are owned. We are owned by Oil Companies, Big Pharma, Banks, Wall Street, the medical insurance industry, and many others. We are property to be milked, bled dry, and discarded.
And if you think you’re part of some entity called the “middle class,†you’re living in a delusion. The middle class has just about ceased to exist and you’re only a few paychecks away from disaster.
Don’t blame yourself for getting here. We’re all responsible because we all let ourselves get conned, raped and bludgeoned by those who run/own everything, and those who act as their shills -- people we call politicians.
We never saw it coming because it crept up so slowly and quietly. And my guess is that most people are still clueless as to what has happened to them.
What happened was that we had a brief “Camelot†moment that lasted from about 1945 to 1980 during which time the ancient evils couldn’t get a foot hold. Then, those ancient evils reawakened with a vengeance. You know what they are: Bigotry, hatred and an insatiable, all consuming greed. Those in power told you that these evils were virtues and far too many bought into the lie.
Shortly after that, hate radio came into our lives, followed by hate television. And it’s been a downhill propaganda sled ride ever since.
It’s my belief that our time is limited. Before long, the criminal psychotics who run almost everything will decide that America is dispensable. After all, the large markets of the 21st century will be China and India. Americans won’t have enough left to make it worth the while of those who own just about everything.
Is there a way for the peasants to rise up and reclaim America? We thought we were doing that in 2008, but it didn’t seem to work out too well for us. So what’s our alternative? Do we sit around waiting for our own funerals?
I know this post is depressing, but it’s my view of our current reality. And if you agree with all or part of it, where do we go from here? What can we realistically do to stop our slide into oblivion?
:bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:
And they are off...
BanTheGOP (483 posts) Tue Nov-23-10 10:54 AM
Response to Original message
1. Ban the GOP...Duh!!!
It is the republican PARTY, or its predecessor organizations, that has been the key factor in EVERY PROBLEM this country has faced since its inception. Destroy capitalism, militarism, and elitism, and this world would have been a lot better off. But it is the republican Party that has always been the world's most destructive influence, and until it is utterly destroyed along with its minions, we are doomed. Pure and simple.
BanTheGOP (483 posts) Tue Nov-23-10 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #14
23. Note I said "republicanist"...not "republican"
The term "republicanist" is the term I use to portray any capitalist, non-progressive tyranny against the vast majority of peaceful humanity. The republican Party, of course, is the financial and "political" manisfestation of the republicanist Agenda, but the fact is that the movement itself is what is despotic, and this unfortunately includes many who wear the (D) with their name.
The only viable solution, of course, is to ban the GOP itself by using RICO statutes from denuding it from its ill gotten funding. We have enough political diversity among the Democratic, Green, Peace and Freedom, and various socialist parties to ensure a rich, progressive discourse of political interaction once we get rid of the scourge of human waste known as Republicans.
Catherina (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-23-10 11:13 AM
Response to Reply #1
14. Think about what you just wrote. The Dems support capitalism, militarism, and elitism
as faithfully as the Republicans do.
The problem is capitalism, of which the other two are a part.
We are doomed unless capitalism, which exploits anyone and anything for profit, is replaced with a more humane system.
Just keep asking yourself "where does the profit come from" and things will start to gel.
We the people deserve a better type of representation than either party is willing to give us.
The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-23-10 11:01 AM
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6. I have the formula. The keys to mass prosperity.
But I can't share it openly.
I can only hope to pull investors together without inadvertently waking the beast.
But nobody will make the time to meet with me and see that what I have is real.
I cannot begin to describe the frustration and anguish of holding a solution, but being able to do nothing with it.
BonnieJW (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-23-10 11:07 AM
Response to Reply #6
10. Why in the world
can't you share it openly? You have THE solution and you won't pass it on?
The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-23-10 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #10
17. Good question. The short answer?
I enjoy breathing, and would like to finish raising my kids.
Oh, and if I'm dead, then not a single part of the plan will be realized.
So long as it just seems I'm blowing smoke, I probably won't attract attention. Therein lies the problem; I have to simultaneously avoid attention while attracting it.
I have made contact with a network of people, but my point of contact cannot seem to wrap his head around just what I have to help me get in front of the right people. He doesn't know everything because I can't share it until I'm in front of the right people.
Give me a handful of investors with a social conscience, a white board, a red marker, and I'll change the fundamentals of the game.
But, of course... that's just blowing smoke.
OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-23-10 11:19 AM
Response to Reply #17
20. And truly finding the right people is a challenge...
Those simply "having resources" aren't necessarily those you need. They must TRULY have a social conscience.
I support visionaries wholeheartedly and believe solutions exist -- way outside the current box of awareness.
Go you.
27. You have no idea.
Subtlety is ineffective, and all up-front is unwelcome.
I have come to the conclusion that even the people with the very best intentions are utterly useless. That means I have to come up with 5M-15M on my own.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-23-10 11:11 AM
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13. The Democrats seem to agree with the Goebbels of the RW
Edited on Tue Nov-23-10 11:13 AM by OHdem10
"This is a Center-Right Country".
Convince the Masses and they are ripe for takeover.
This is a Center-Right Country. This is a Center-Right Country.
Repeat a lie often enough and the masses will believe it.
There is a world of difference between Center-Right
and Right of Center.
We are professing that the country lies in the center
of the Republican Party. This is most important.
It means whatever the Republicans espouse and propose
we will support.
How else do you think the Republicans won in last election.
I dunno...maybe because the majority of voters don`t want what you do.
TBF (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-23-10 11:20 AM
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21. How do we stop the slide? By stopping the capitalism. Ain't gonna be easy -
it's going to require millions of us in the streets. Solidarity and fighting back are the only options we have if we want to save this planet.
Knock yourself out but since you are all useless,lazy crybabies I am not worried.
Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-23-10 11:29 AM
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25. I was gonna say, "Form our own country"
You know, buy a very large island or chain of islands somewhere, and go there. That is if this place is indeed beyond salvation.
Problem is, the powers-that-be we'd be fleeing would inevitably find a way to infiltrate or buy our utopia...and failing that, they would just nuke it.
Ahhh...utopia.
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Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy too much stupid this early in the morning. :thatsright:
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BanTheGOP (483 posts) Tue Nov-23-10 10:54 AM
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1. Ban the GOP...Duh!!!
It is the republican PARTY, or its predecessor organizations, that has been the key factor in EVERY PROBLEM this country has faced since its inception. Destroy capitalism, militarism, and elitism, and this world would have been a lot better off. But it is the republican Party that has always been the world's most destructive influence, and until it is utterly destroyed along with its minions, we are doomed. Pure and simple.
You are such freaking, little, simple-minded idiot.
Democrats had control of the House and Senate for four years and the executive branch for two years, things got progressively worse from 2007 when the dems took over until today, when they are still in charge.
Today, N. Korea attacked its neighbor and what does Obama do? He reads his telepropter.
And for the record the GOP isn't the answer either, it is us, staying awake, holding both sides accountable.
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Our country has been stolen from us. Our lives have been stolen from us.
Yep and it took less than four years to do it. Of course, it got into high gear in January 2009.
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Yeah, wineslob. Ain't that the truth!
BanTheGOP is going to be on my list. It's obvious that what we see in this primitive is what happens when an infant is dropped on its' head a triple-digit number of times in its' first two years on Earth.
'Course, the Avenger primitive (post if you can figure that one out) is nothing more than a keyboard commando. (That should tell you who it is--what you need to tell me is why I named said primitive that.)
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What the DUmmie is trying to say is, "I want my tiny 2 room cookie cutter apartment and all the freebies that go with it."
What the lazy, won't work, idiots will get is a bunk bed in the Alaska work camps.....if they're that lucky.
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BanTheGOP is either a brilliant mole or at the top of my list this year for most completely moronic DUmmy.
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Okay, by BanstheGOP's standards we shouldn't have formed the country in the first place since capitalism was part of the plan to give everyone the equal OPPORTUNITY to achieve. Of course there were no Republicans (or "ists") back then but details, details. This person must lose brain cells every time it breathes.
Cindie
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-23-10 10:50 AM
Original message
Our country has been stolen from us. Our lives have been stolen from us.
Edited on Tue Nov-23-10 11:26 AM by Cyrano
How secure are you feeling these days? Is your job secure? Are your possesions secure? Are your investments secure? Are you waking up in the middle of the night worrying about the future? Has life become burdensome?
We told you this was going to happen if you elected the Democrats!
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-23-10 10:50 AM
Original message
Our country has been stolen from us. Our lives have been stolen from us.
Edited on Tue Nov-23-10 11:26 AM by Cyrano
How secure are you feeling these days? Is your job secure? Are your possesions secure? Are your investments secure? Are you waking up in the middle of the night worrying about the future? Has life become burdensome?
You're exactly right Cyrano. Our Country has been stolen from us by the socialists and communists in power.
So, ask yourselves those questions again and seriously think who is to blame? Your lord zero has done exactly that, ZERO for this Country. :censored:
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You know it's going to be epic when BTG shows up! It takes him a few posts, though, to work out the kinks in his arms from the straitjacket he's normally in. :mental: :lmao:
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-23-10 10:50 AM
Original message
Our country has been stolen from us. Our lives have been stolen from us.
Edited on Tue Nov-23-10 11:26 AM by Cyrano
How secure are you feeling these days? Is your job secure? Are your possesions secure? Are your investments secure? Are you waking up in the middle of the night worrying about the future? Has life become burdensome?
How's that hopey-changey thing workin' out for ya, DUmbass?
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Someone comes along and farts on the campfire, blowing it out, leaving only Adbot.
Flatulo (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-23-10 01:31 PM
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37.
Because of outsourcing, I lost a $135K job as a senior design engineer at Seagate after 30 years of service. I now work twice as hard for 1/2 the money at a sweatshop. And I'm very lucky to have that, bcause I'm 54 years old, and no one hires people my age. I go to work in excruciating pain every day becaue my insurance will not pay for anything other than cheap narcotics to mask the problems. Thankfully I made great money for many years and lived well within my means, so I'm in no danger of becoming homeless. I have a crappy little house that is paid off in full, and I buy absoutely nothing that I can't live without.
Still, $68K ain't bad...plus insurance-paid narcotics, plus money in the bank, plus a paid-for house. All courtesy of a free-market company named Seagate.
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BanTheGOP (483 posts) Tue Nov-23-10 10:54 AM
Response to Original message
1. Ban the GOP...Duh!!!
It is the republican PARTY, or its predecessor organizations, that has been the key factor in EVERY PROBLEM this country has faced since its inception. Destroy capitalism, militarism, and elitism, and this world would have been a lot better off. But it is the republican Party that has always been the world's most destructive influence, and until it is utterly destroyed along with its minions, we are doomed. Pure and simple.
You can start with me anytime you are ready, bitch.
Call it, friendo....
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Flatulo (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-23-10 01:31 PM
Response to Original message
37.
Because of outsourcing, I lost a $135K job as a senior design engineer at Seagate after 30 years of service. I now work twice as hard for 1/2 the money at a sweatshop.
What 'sweatshop' pays its employees 68k a year??
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What 'sweatshop' pays its employees 68k a year??
Maybe a union "sweatshop".
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What 'sweatshop' pays its employees 68k a year??
Hell sign me up I'd love to make that kind of money. :-)
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Nothing in life is a given. Everyone that's decent and hard working earns what they have,DUmmies beg borrow and steal almost everything they get.
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The Doctor.
6. I have the formula. The keys to mass prosperity.
But I can't share it openly.
I can only hope to pull investors together without inadvertently waking the beast.
But nobody will make the time to meet with me and see that what I have is real.
I cannot begin to describe the frustration and anguish of holding a solution, but being able to do nothing with it.
Holy Crap!! Dear Leader has GOT to be jealous of this primitives' messiah complex.
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Thats to much stupid.
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The Doctor.
6. I have the formula. The keys to mass prosperity.
But I can't share it openly.
I can only hope to pull investors together without inadvertently waking the beast.
But nobody will make the time to meet with me and see that what I have is real.
I cannot begin to describe the frustration and anguish of holding a solution, but being able to do nothing with it.
Holy Crap!! Dear Leader has GOT to be jealous of this primitives' messiah complex.
DUmmie has the greatest ponzi/pyramid scheme ever but can't get any DUmmies to buy into it. :rotf:
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DUmmie has the greatest ponzi/pyramid scheme ever but can't get any DUmmies to buy into it. :rotf:
Does Bernie Madoff have Net privileges in prison?
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I should have read further:
BonnieJW
10. Why in the world can't you share it openly? You have THE solution and you won't pass it on?
The Doctor.
17. Good question. The short answer?
I enjoy breathing, and would like to finish raising my kids.
Oh, and if I'm dead, then not a single part of the plan will be realized.
So long as it just seems I'm blowing smoke, I probably won't attract attention. Therein lies the problem; I have to simultaneously avoid attention while attracting it.
I have made contact with a network of people, but my point of contact cannot seem to wrap his head around just what I have to help me get in front of the right people. He doesn't know everything because I can't share it until I'm in front of the right people.
Give me a handful of investors with a social conscience, a white board, a red marker, and I'll change the fundamentals of the game.
But, of course... that's just blowing smoke.
OneGrassRoot
20. And truly finding the right people is a challenge...
Those simply "having resources" aren't necessarily those you need. They must TRULY have a social conscience.
I support visionaries wholeheartedly and believe solutions exist -- way outside the current box of awareness.
Go you.
The Doctor.
27. You have no idea.
Subtlety is ineffective, and all up-front is unwelcome.
I have come to the conclusion that even the people with the very best intentions are utterly useless. That means I have to come up with 5M-15M on my own.
Wasn't long ago they were only "$10 away." Now it's "$5M to $15M." Must be inflation.
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Given the Doctor's vitriolic and relentless defense of Lord Obama elsewhere, the odds are his scheme somehow involves a complex and perhaps fragile method of tapping into a river of tax money under the Health Care Deformation Act, instead of anything that would actually be considered 'Productive' by anyone else.