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Title: Scott Brown is trying to save ObamaCare?
Post by: Wretched Excess on November 23, 2010, 09:54:04 AM
I know he's from Massachusetts and all, and what he is trying to create is a way for states to opt out of the whole mess to begin with.  but how in the world does he think that he can "reform" that which was constantly referred to as "comprehensive health care reform"?  and why would he want to try?  and why would he think that he can solve the myriad perversities lurking in that 2200 page monstrosity?  and why doesn't he understand that the real evil lies in the billions of as yet unwritten regulations that a horde of unelected bureaucrats are writing?

 :thatsright:  just keep repeating;  he's better than ted kennedy.  he's better than ted kennedy. he's better than ted kennedy.

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Have Scott Brown and Ron Wyden figured out the way forward on health care?

The GOP’s slogan on health-care reform has, till now, been “repeal and replace.” But they don’t have the votes for either. What they might have the votes for is reform that, maybe, one day, if all goes well, could lead to replacement. And, believe it or not, liberals might be able to get on board with this strategy, too.

This morning, Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Scott Brown (R-Mass.) introduced the “Empowering States to Innovate Act.” The legislation would allow states to develop their own health-care reform proposals that would preempt the federal government’s effort. If a state can think of a plan that covers as many people, with as comprehensive insurance, at as low a cost, without adding to the deficit, the state can get the money the federal government would’ve given it for health-care reform but be freed from the individual mandate, the exchanges, the insurance requirements, the subsidy scheme and pretty much everything else in the bill.

Wyden, with the help of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), was able to build a version of this exemption into the original health-care reform bill, but for various reasons, was forced to accept a starting date of 2017 -- three years after the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act goes into effect. The Wyden/Brown legislation would allow states to propose their alternatives now and start implementing them in 2014, rather than wasting time and money setting up a federal structure that they don’t plan to use.

More[.url] (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/11/have_scott_brown_and_ron_wyden.html)
Title: Re: Scott Brown is trying to save ObamaCare?
Post by: true_blood on November 23, 2010, 12:44:20 PM
Most of his campaign was run on stopping HELLCARE. He better not be on board with it now.
Title: Re: Scott Brown is trying to save ObamaCare?
Post by: cavegal on November 23, 2010, 01:09:59 PM
It seems we cannot trust this bunch either?
Title: Re: Scott Brown is trying to save ObamaCare?
Post by: Freeper on November 23, 2010, 05:47:51 PM
It seems we cannot trust this bunch either?

Don't lump them all together just yet.
Title: Re: Scott Brown is trying to save ObamaCare?
Post by: formerlurker on November 23, 2010, 08:01:39 PM
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Although Cannon believes Brown should drop the proposal and push for full repeal, Tom Miller, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, empathizes with Brown. “I don’t want to knock Brown and Wyden. They are actually serious people who sometimes look for different ways to do things,” Miller says. For his part, Brown continues to support full repeal and this bill doesn’t diminish his opposition.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/253777/conservatives-send-brown-back-drawing-board-brian-bolduc

Meh, I look at it more as protecting MA -- we already have this here, so by accelerating the opt out for states MA wouldn't be affected by this.   He needs to concentrate on repeal instead.

Title: Re: Scott Brown is trying to save ObamaCare?
Post by: littlelamb on November 24, 2010, 05:10:34 AM
I hope he is not just another RINO
Title: Re: Scott Brown is trying to save ObamaCare?
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 24, 2010, 05:59:14 AM
They just passed this trash and it needs reforming/fixing already....before it even comes into effect. That's like buying a new car that has to have major repairs before it even leaves the factory.....At least with cars we have the lemon law.