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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dandi on November 19, 2010, 04:43:49 PM
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I'm not going to post the OP because it's a huge wall of psychobabble text on What's Wrong With Americaâ„¢. More instructive, I think, is this stand-alone post in reply to it which pretty much sums up DUmbasses in general.
joeaddison (3 posts) Fri Nov-19-10 06:59 AM
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12. Time for change... good read, but the final quote kind of ruins your post.
My only real problem with the article is the quote at the end. But it's a big problem...
"Perhaps... when the country has found its moral bearings AGAIN..."
The Schell quote is just another example of rationalizing evil and identifying with the clan nonsense. It perfectly exemplifies that proto-fascist belief (so prevalent in the U.S.) that times were once better and if only we could get back to our principles (moral compass) things we would be OK.
"... found it's moral bearings AGAIN..."
My favorite part of the quote is "again"? When did the U.S. ever have moral bearings at all? My grandfather was an American Indian. What was yours?
The truth is that the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence were never intended to be more than TALKING POINTS to convince a bunch of idiots to go fight someone else's war and submit to a capitalist authority. All men created equal? Unless you're black, native, a woman, don't own property...
The nature of this country has not changed for 200 years. To cite an example from the current times, being in a state of war isn't all that unusual.
I'm 31 years old. In my lifetime, the U.S. has been officially involved in 5 wars (Invasion of Panama, Iraq I, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq II). And I can't even begin to figure how many CIA back coups, bombings, "combat operations" and paramilitary stuff the U.S. has perpetrated during my lifetime.
America was founded on bullshit and still is bullshit.
And I'm sorry, but if even the dissenters pay homage to the founding myths, there's really no hope of change until America finally loses a war in a big way.
E. Addison
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9588288#9589000
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inna (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-19-10 08:42 AM
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14. Welcome to DU, Joeaddison!
It's good to have you here!
No love lost for the poisoning and dangerous myth of American exceptionalism here. In fact, I personally see it as the ROOT of everything that is wrong with this country, and I mean it.
The OP (Opening Poster) wrote a lot on the subject btw, if I remember correctly; and I'm guessing that he would mainly agree with the point that you made.
I hope you're here to stay btw; your perspective is refreshing and much needed. See you around?....
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Dear DUmmies
Swallow some of your own poison and quit spreading it across my country.
Thank you very much.
Duke
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Why can't we just kick these aholes out?
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America was founded on bullshit and still is bullshit. And I'm sorry, but if even the dissenters pay homage to the founding myths, there's really no hope of change until America finally loses a war in a big way.
E. Addison
Get in your car, drive to an airport, buy yourself a one way ticket to Europe, get felt up/"sexually assaulted" by the TSA, and never come back. Thank you very much! :censored:
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Ummmm....chief blanket-ass drowned himself in too much fire water.
Go research Kennewick Man chief injun, then decipher ANGLO-SAXON (Europeans) were the FIRST inhabitants of this north American continent, not you uneducated pillaging heretics.