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Title: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: thundley4 on November 16, 2010, 07:34:29 PM
You idiots bitch and moan about the invasive scanners and the groping done to those who refuse the scan.  Want to know who to blame?  Look in the mirror. It's the fault of all you lefties that didn't want to allow profiling to be used on passengers.  Now we have 3 year old girls being groped by government workers while Hadji walks through free and clear.

OTOH, good news for you loons.  The Obama administration has cleared the way for the TSA employees to be unionized.  Just think, they can soon do their groping and leering knowing they will be protected from being fired by their union's lawyers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9568506&mesg_id=9568506

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9572099&mesg_id=9572099

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9572282

Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: true_blood on November 16, 2010, 07:50:07 PM
You idiots bitch and moan about the invasive scanners and the groping done to those who refuse the scan.  Want to know who to blame?  Look in the mirror. It's the fault of all you lefties that didn't want to allow profiling to be used on passengers.  Now we have 3 year old girls being groped by government workers while Hadji walks through free and clear.
Thank you for posting this Thundley.
You stupid DUmmie/liberal bleeding hearts that warned about racial profiling will hurt the feeeellings of the people that should be profiled, now bitch and complain about you and your family being felt up to board a plane. We give up more freedoms so the hijab wearing mooselims don't get offended.  :argh: :argh: Hey Big Sis, when are you going to make it mandatory that the people that work in the gubberment also be groped and felt up before boarding a plane?! :bird:
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: Evil_Conservative on November 16, 2010, 07:56:03 PM
Because of TSA, and this total disregard of the 4th amendment, I will no longer fly.  The terminal we went through at McCarran had those stupid body scanners, but we THANKFULLY did not have to go through one.  I'm sick of being treated like a criminal when I want to fly back and see our family in the Midwest.

We are AMERICANS!!!  When was the last time an American tried to blow up a plane? 

I'm sick of this crap.  Why chance it?  I would NEVER allow my daughter to go through one of those full body scanners and if they started to touch her and her privates... I would call the police.  If someone did that out on the streets, that person would be added to a sex offender list.  But when TSA does it, it's for "safety".  **** that.  And **** the TSA.

Your local sex offender down the street could more than likely get a job with TSA. 
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: IassaFTots on November 16, 2010, 08:03:12 PM
I would rather go through a scanner, than a pat down.  If the TSA agents can't find my lotion, lighter, pocket knife, and lip balm in my purse, wtf is a pat down gonna do????   :thatsright:
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: Freeper on November 16, 2010, 08:12:02 PM
This is what happens when political correctness wins the day.
Instead of using common sense approaches such as profiling we waste all this time and money, then harass everyone all because your du thongs get bunched up if we dare question "brown people".
All this shit going on is because of the ACLU and liberals who don't want to offend those people who want us all dead.

Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: USA4ME on November 16, 2010, 08:22:31 PM
Hey primitives, no complaining,  As others have already pointed out, you have no one to blame for this but yourselves.  In fact, anytime the gov't steps in and overreaches (And should you ever wonder when that is just come over and ask one of us and we'll tell you, because you have proven time and time again you aren't intelligent enough to know without someone like us informing you correctly) then you and your lib ideology is to blame.  So shut up and stop talking about it.  This is all your doing.

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Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: NHSparky on November 16, 2010, 09:32:14 PM
I would rather go through a scanner, than a pat down.  If the TSA agents can't find my lotion, lighter, pocket knife, and lip balm in my purse, wtf is a pat down gonna do????   :thatsright:

Or, you could do like they did in my case in Boston last month, and get to do BOTH the scan AND the "patdown", anal fisting, ball fondling, whatever you wish to call it.
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: IassaFTots on November 16, 2010, 09:37:29 PM
Or, you could do like they did in my case in Boston last month, and get to do BOTH the scan AND the "patdown", anal fisting, ball fondling, whatever you wish to call it.

And yet, if you had a friggin lighter in your pocket, or a razor blade in your shoe, chances are they wouldn't even see it.  El Al has it right.  Profile, profile, profile.
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: Airwolf on November 16, 2010, 10:25:06 PM
One would have to ask this. what if the unintended consequences of this causes the airlines to finally fail? You can bet that right now any hope of a bailout is about as likely as Jimmy Carter getting another shot at the Oval Office.
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: Boudicca on November 16, 2010, 10:39:33 PM
I would rather go through a scanner, than a pat down.  If the TSA agents can't find my lotion, lighter, pocket knife, and lip balm in my purse, wtf is a pat down gonna do????   :thatsright:

I know, it would be hilarious if it weren't so damn scary how these morons miss things like perfume, pocket knives and whatever else.  I've known people who forgot that kind of stuff in their pockets and/or purses and "snuck" on through. :whistling:
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: IassaFTots on November 17, 2010, 08:03:49 AM
I know, it would be hilarious if it weren't so damn scary how these morons miss things like perfume, pocket knives and whatever else.  I've known people who forgot that kind of stuff in their pockets and/or purses and "snuck" on through. :whistling:

Exactly.  All of the stuff I mentioned, I had no intent on bringing with me.  I had just switched purses, and they were all in one of my little cosmetic bags.  This was probably maybe 3 months or so after they banned the liquids.  Not so diligent, eh?  I can't begin to tell you the amount of times I have gone through security with a lighter in my pocket. 
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: Splashdown on November 17, 2010, 08:08:45 AM
And they want the same people who brought you the TSA to be in charge of your healthcare... :whatever:
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: jukin on November 17, 2010, 09:05:54 AM
I like this guy's tactics for air travel security.

Watch it to the end and NOT safe for work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA8x_YypfjA

BTW, this is so simple that government will never think of it...or consider it.
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: NHSparky on November 17, 2010, 09:21:06 AM
I like this guy's tactics for air travel security.

Watch it to the end and NOT safe for work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA8x_YypfjA

BTW, this is so simple that government will never think of it...or consider it.

Start with "Big Sis" Napolitano and all those idiots at the TSA.  THEN you can brain the idiots who get drunk off their asses and delay the flight.

The rest I leave to you.
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: Karin on November 17, 2010, 10:38:57 AM
Pretty powerful video I saw on last night's news, the one of the little 3 year old girl screaming 'DON'T TOUCH ME!  DON'T TOUCH ME!!"  while the TSA woman continues to poke and prod and grope her.  And now Uncle Morty is going to "consider" the hijab exemption?  I feel like I'm living in a nightmare, sometimes. 

I will not fly.  If I need to go somewhere, I'm jumping in the car. 
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: thundley4 on November 17, 2010, 11:17:53 AM
Pretty powerful video I saw on last night's news, the one of the little 3 year old girl screaming 'DON'T TOUCH ME!  DON'T TOUCH ME!!"  while the TSA woman continues to poke and prod and grope her.  And now Uncle Morty is going to "consider" the hijab exemption?  I feel like I'm living in a nightmare, sometimes. 

I will not fly.  If I need to go somewhere, I'm jumping in the car. 

It makes you wonder if the federal government isn't trying to kill off the airlines.
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: BlueStateSaint on November 17, 2010, 12:11:44 PM
It makes you wonder if the federal government isn't trying to kill off the airlines.

I was thinking the same thing.  If someone tried to grope The Heiress, she'd claw the shit out of them.  (I'd probably have been Tasered and put in cuffs by then.)
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: TheSarge on November 17, 2010, 12:15:53 PM
It makes you wonder if the federal government isn't trying to kill off the airlines.

Or just do this to them:

(http://www.vktravels.us/media/airlinesLogo/logoAeroflot.jpg)



Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: terry on November 17, 2010, 12:21:37 PM
This is how you do it.

http://online.wsj.com/video/how-israel-screens-for-terrorists/987D025A-145D-42F5-9756-7B43CC7613CE.html
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: BlueStateSaint on November 17, 2010, 12:23:57 PM
 :racist: :waisis:
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 17, 2010, 12:38:59 PM
Air travel had already become an immense pain in the ass, fortunately I am about to the point where I have almost no "Have to" flights to worry about any more.  The scanners don't really bother me, it's not like they're stealing my soul.  Even the pat-downs are just a transitory annoyance.  But the whole thing taken all together is just too much of a pointless waste of my time, being treated like a crime suspect all the way through it to boot.
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: IassaFTots on November 17, 2010, 12:48:34 PM
Air travel had already become an immense pain in the ass, fortunately I am about to the point where I have almost no "Have to" flights to worry about any more.  The scanners don't really bother me, it's not like they're stealing my soul.  Even the pat-downs are just a transitory annoyance.  But the whole thing taken all together is just too much of a pointless waste of my time, being treated like a crime suspect all the way through it to boot.

I don't travel much, or as much as I would like to.  I would travel more, if I had more time off and more money to do so.  The pat downs and the scanners don't bother me as a procedure.  What bothers me is that I find the majority of the TSA employees to be deficient in training, and education to conduct their jobs. 

This entire inconvenience is superficial, at best. One of those "let's feel secure about traveling thingys."  If they want to make ME feel secure, station some actual military around, with their automatic weapons.  And throw a couple on the plane as well. 

Then I would feel more secure.   
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: thundley4 on November 17, 2010, 01:04:49 PM
Air travel had already become an immense pain in the ass, fortunately I am about to the point where I have almost no "Have to" flights to worry about any more.  The scanners don't really bother me, it's not like they're stealing my soul.  Even the pat-downs are just a transitory annoyance.  But the whole thing taken all together is just too much of a pointless waste of my time, being treated like a crime suspect all the way through it to boot.


The whole thing would be much easier if they weren't so damn politically correct about it.
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 17, 2010, 01:49:53 PM
What bothers me is that I find the majority of the TSA employees to be deficient in training, and education to conduct their jobs. 

They do mostly come across as people who weren't quite bright or fit enough to make it as baggage handlers.
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: littlelamb on November 17, 2010, 02:10:28 PM
Personally anything that will keep us safe I am all for it
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: thundley4 on November 17, 2010, 02:18:56 PM
Personally anything that will keep us safe I am all for it

I would be, too, but the way they handle screening it isn't doing anything to make us safer.  They would rather strip search a couple of nuns than even glance at Abdul walking through with his suicide vest worn on the outside of his coat.
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: IassaFTots on November 17, 2010, 02:34:59 PM
I would be, too, but the way they handle screening it isn't doing anything to make us safer.  They would rather strip search a couple of nuns than even glance at Abdul walking through with his suicide vest worn on the outside of his coat.

Exactly my point.  Exactly.   :cheersmate:
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: jukin on November 17, 2010, 05:54:42 PM
Personally anything that will keep us safe I am all for it

Yes, but the TSA is total Security Theater bowing to the great good Political Correctness.
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: Evil_Conservative on November 17, 2010, 07:32:33 PM
I will not fly.  If I need to go somewhere, I'm jumping in the car. 

That's what we will be doing from now on.  It will take a bit longer to get to family, but I'd rather do that than pay $600+ (not including bag fees) and then deal with the possibility of my family & I being groped by TSA.

It's cheaper to drive back then it is to fly.
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: Evil_Conservative on November 17, 2010, 07:33:32 PM
Personally anything that will keep us safe I am all for it

Even if it takes away your rights?

You do realize you're being treated like a criminal, right?  You're being felt up by some total stranger.  You wouldn't allow that kind of behavior if you were at the mall, correct?
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: IassaFTots on November 17, 2010, 09:31:08 PM
Even if it takes away your rights?

You do realize you're being treated like a criminal, right?  You're being felt up by some total stranger.  You wouldn't allow that kind of behavior if you were at the mall, correct?

If I had to be felt up to guarantee my safety, yeah, I would.  My issue is that the TSA is a f-ing superficial farce, and it's just more feel good pretty crap rather than actually insuring my safety. 

If everyone is treated the same, no one is being treated as a criminal.  I don't have to pass a security screen at the mall. 

The fact of the matter shouldn't be the screen, only that it is an across the board, effective screen.  That, we all know is NOT the case, and that is where our concern should lay.
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: Boudicca on November 17, 2010, 10:36:49 PM
If this country's pc leadership class had a few more cojones like my governor, we could solve the whole screening process by profiling suspicious characters.  El Al doesn't pat people down, but their security is awesome and based on profiling, GASP, people likely to blow up an airplane, not some hapless wheelchair bound blue haired lady or a 3-year old baby.
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: Evil_Conservative on November 17, 2010, 10:46:49 PM
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If everyone is treated the same, no one is being treated as a criminal.  I don't have to pass a security screen at the mall. 

What if terrorist attacks started happening at malls and we had some new branch of TSA at the front doors of malls? 

Let's calling them Shopping Security Administration or whatever you want... but the SSA was run by the current mall cops and they were allowed to use full body scans and to "frisk" you, would that make anyone feel comfortable?

This whole subject makes me cranky.

I'll enjoy driving from here on out.  No more sitting in those tiny seats, squished up to someone who smells like they haven't bathed in four days.

Most people seem "okay" with this... just wait until it actually happens to you or one of your children.  There is no need for a government worker to grab your crotch.

Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: Splashdown on November 18, 2010, 08:11:41 AM
Personally anything that will keep us safe I am all for it

That's a really, really dangerous standard.
Title: Re: To any and all lurking DUmmies, Re: the TSA
Post by: IassaFTots on November 18, 2010, 08:35:15 AM
What if terrorist attacks started happening at malls and we had some new branch of TSA at the front doors of malls? 

Let's calling them Shopping Security Administration or whatever you want... but the SSA was run by the current mall cops and they were allowed to use full body scans and to "frisk" you, would that make anyone feel comfortable?

This whole subject makes me cranky.

I'll enjoy driving from here on out.  No more sitting in those tiny seats, squished up to someone who smells like they haven't bathed in four days.

Most people seem "okay" with this... just wait until it actually happens to you or one of your children.  There is no need for a government worker to grab your crotch.



Oh, I so totally hear you.  My point was more that these processes will be just as ineffective as the ban on liquid.  We need to profile.  We will suffer tremendously from the government's PC.