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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on November 14, 2010, 03:32:43 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=276x10936
Oh my.
HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-12-10 02:15 PM
THE PILGRIM PRIMITIVE
Original message
So, do we take this to Skinner as a group, or just sit and tell happy stories?
The mentally ill-US-shouldn't be a target of this sort of bigotry by DU members.
It goes on all the time, and the mods never seem to respond to alerts.
We are good enough for our donations, but not good enough to have our status as ill treated with dignity?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
The Pilgrim primitive seems to have forgotten he lit this campfire, and so comments:
HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-12-10 02:30 PM
THE PILGRIM PRIMITIVE
Response to Original message
1. Hmm, I guess we do.
THAT is VERY disappointing colleagues!
I guess we accept that we are the equivalent of ignorant bigots.
We need some help.
Tobin S. (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-12-10 02:45 PM
THE DROOPY DRAWERS PRIMITIVE
Response to Reply #1
2. This forum usually moves pretty slow
This group has a couple of functions. The main one is for people who are distressed. They can come here and safely say what they want and expect support and empathy.
Another function is that it exists also for the enlightenment of others. The next time you see a misinformed person spouting ignorant garbage, just give them a link to this group. If it's blatant bigotry hit the alert button.
If you would like to write a letter to Skinner regarding this matter, I'll be happy to put my input into it and sign along with you.
HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-12-10 02:56 PM
THE PILGRIM PRIMITIVE
Response to Reply #2
3. Yeah, I did. DU SUCKS on this issue and people on DU give a SHIT about it.
HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-14-10 08:43 AM
THE PILGRIM PRIMITIVE
Response to Reply #2
8. It's pretty clear that support in this forum doesn't extend to this.
More weight to that side of the balance that says most of the "views" for this forum are for vicarious satisfaction.
HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-12-10 03:14 PM
THE PILGRIM PRIMITIVE
Response to Original message
4. Please read the following and if you agree give me a PM
I will collect your DU id's and forward them to Skinner along with the following statement.
We, the followers of the DU Mental Illness Support group, find the regular disparagement of the mentally ill in postings and replies on DU discouraging. We urge the Administrators and Moderators of DU to see the mentally ill as a class of real persons. We are members of DU and we are persons who are stereotyped and repeatedly equated with all variety of disparagements against rhetorical and political 'bad guys.' We find bigotry against the mentally ill, even employed as a tool against other social and political bigotry, abhorrent and ask that greater efforts be made to prevent the adverse stereotyping of the mentally ill.
Thank-you.
postatomic (9 posts) Sat Nov-13-10 01:51 PM
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5. The mentally ill are easy to target
I just think of it as a way for many people to coverup their own mental health issues. Not unlike the homophobic that fear their own gay feelings and hide it by being rabid anti-gay.
But, you're right. There should be some level of understanding and compassion. I would just chalk it up to ignorance and fear. Not sure how anyone who calls themself a progressive could act this way other than the fact that they are not a progressive. Or they are just stupid and fearful. That way of thinking is something I'd expect more from the Tea Baggers.
mopinko (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-14-10 01:12 AM
THE HYPOCHONDRIAL PRIMITIVE
Response to Original message
6. i highly recommend that you post about this in ata
put the links, which can be followed back stage to the deleted messages.
imo there does need to be work done to make sure that member and mods get the issues straight.
you will get an answer. drop me a pm and give me a heads up when you do it. i will check in if i can.
HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-14-10 08:04 AM
THE PILGRIM PRIMITIVE
Response to Reply #6
7. That was done two days ago.
Hmmmm.
One wonders what the primitives were saying, in the two campfires referred to; I've got too many windows open here, to check, sorry.
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-12-10 02:30 PM
THE PILGRIM PRIMITIVE
We need some help.
Doesn't that kind of go without saying?
:rotf:
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One wonders what the primitives were saying, in the two campfires referred to; I've got too many windows open here, to check, sorry.
Not quite sure what's going on in that thread... I only glanced at it. The crazy DUmmies are objecting to the 'abusive' woman being labeled as crazy.
Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-12-10 02:01 PM
Original message
Black Hingham Postal Worker Fired, Abusive White Woman Gets Away Scott-Free
Racism is Still Alive in Hingham, MA
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9545506
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But...but....but there can't be any moonbat bigots in MA..
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But...but....but there can't be any moonbat bigots in MA..
Thats what I thought go figure
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I thought, by definition, that the members on Skin's Island WERE mentally ill.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/ColonialMarine/Bush/lunapic_128977416526753_3.gif)
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I'm a bit confused because all of the primitives believe i Darwin's theory of evolution. Now mentally ill people should be either anew shot of evolution or eliminated by nature through natural selection. Why would we mere humans decide to interfere with Darwin's grand theory?
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I'm a bit confused because all of the primitives believe i Darwin's theory of evolution. Now mentally ill people should be either anew shot of evolution or eliminated by nature through natural selection. Why would we mere humans decide to interfere with Darwin's grand theory?
But they're the brilliantist, most smarterist ones in society!!!!!1!11!eleventy!!!!!
They're just underappreciated, that's all!
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I'm a bit confused because all of the primitives believe i Darwin's theory of evolution. Now mentally ill people should be either anew shot of evolution or eliminated by nature through natural selection. Why would we mere humans decide to interfere with Darwin's grand theory?
Ironic that they are largely childless, and also losers in competition with the rest of the species, is it not?
:-)
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Well it what has become our dystopian nightmare of our society, mental illness might be over diagnosed.
Hell, I was crazy and a conspiracy nut for the past 2 years for actually saying things that logically would happen.
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Well it what has become our dystopian nightmare of our society, mental illness might be over diagnosed.
I tend to agree with you there, Jake. Several factors converge, ranging from benefits issues, to excuse-finding for personal shortcomings, to the inherently-unsatisfactory 'Science' of trying to apply a binary 'normal/abnormal' label to an infinitely-varied humanity.
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I tend to agree with you there, Jake. Several factors converge, ranging from benefits issues, to excuse-finding for personal shortcomings, to the inherently-unsatisfactory 'Science' of trying to apply a binary 'normal/abnormal' label to an infinitely-varied humanity.
Shit, someone spends some time depressed over real world events that suck and you have people wanting them to hand them happy pills instead of letting them going through the perfectly normal human process of going through something that sucks.
The other thing is if you point out something isn't working or is wrong, we have gotten this mythological idea in our head we can control the environment with our happy thoughts and the very logical negative reaction to something that is negative is something that needs to be cured.
I could go on and on an on.
I openly wonder how many of these mentally ill individuals have been taken advantage of by the "mental health" industry and in fact are just logically reacting to situations in their lives and are being denied the mental thought process to come to solutions for them.
There are people that are mentally ill in our society. There are also people that have found someone who will listen to them about how much their life sucks and instead of letting them find solutions to fix it, enable them to make their lives worse either by prescribing them medications to ignore the reality or by filling their heads with positive thinking nonsense.
My grandparents weren't positive thinkers. I think that is how they survived.
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The Pilgrim primitive seems to have forgotten he lit this campfire
Folks, don't let the mentally ill play with matches.
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I thought, by definition, that the members on Skin's Island WERE mentally ill.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/ColonialMarine/Bush/lunapic_128977416526753_3.gif)
HA HA! That gif is EPIC! H5! :cheersmate:
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primitives targeting the nuts on Skins's island ....now that would be a target rich environment.
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primitives targeting the nuts on Skins's island ....now that would be a target rich environment.
Use a shotgun!