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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on November 13, 2010, 07:08:03 AM
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Nov-13-10 06:29 AM
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Why On Earth Would Americans Vote Bush-Cheney Agenda Back Into Power? Europeans Are Perplexed... Updated at 6:31 AM
http://www.alternet.org/story/148841/why_on_earth_would...
Why on Earth Would Americans Vote the Old Bush-Cheney Agenda Back into Power? Europeans Are Perplexed
Even conservatives in Europe are scratching their heads over their transatlantic allies who appear to hate the idea of cheaper, universal health care.
November 12, 2010 |
For several weeks before the recent U.S. election, there was much nervous speculation among Europeans as they watched the fluctuations of the poll numbers. Now that the results are in, Europeans are perplexed by this turn back toward the politics of the Bush-Cheney era.
Like the rest of the world, Europe cheered the election of Barack Obama as a change from the economic and foreign policy disasters of his predecessor. Yet just two years later the US government is returning to Bush-lite. How could this be, Europeans are wondering? The American electorate is looking like a coyote with its leg caught in a trap, chewing its own leg off to get out of the trap.
Europeans are puzzled by the success of the populist Tea Party movement, which seemingly wants to roll back the last two years and return to how things were at the end of the Bush-Cheney years. Even conservatives in Europe are scratching their heads over their transatlantic allies -- “Americans don’t want health care??? How can these Tea Party people say ‘Get government out of my Medicare -- don’t they know Medicare IS a government program???â€
While participating in a conference in Budapest in September, where prominent conservative leaders and thinkers were in attendance, including the president of the European Parliament and two prime ministers, some of the most eye-opening comments had to do with new perceptions about America. One speaker, Christian Stoffaes, who is chairman of the Center for International Prospective Studies based in Paris, stated the "United States is in disarray, extremely polarized. It is practically a civil war there, and you can't count on it."
This theme was echoed by others speakers, who went even further. One said "We need to shift our emphasis eastward (towards Asia) and not wait for the Obama administration." I found these statements to be surprising, and even vaguely alarming, given the importance of the transatlantic relationship in the post-World War II era. But there was a widespread view that the US is being consumed by the severity of the Great Recession, brought on by a broken Wall Street capitalism, as well as by the quagmires of the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts, and an inability to change course.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9550128
They actually believe Obama's lies about health care being cheaper.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Nov-13-10 08:03 AM
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13. Answer: Many Americans are woefully-misinformed morons. (NT)
A lot of them post at DU too.
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Hey Europe,while you settle into insolvency from your socialist policies here is a little idea how much I care what you think.
:bigbird:
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Government run healthcare will be cheaper....If you don't get any healthcare, then it only cost half as much as getting some government run healthcare.
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Wow! A post from alternet. They make DU seem reasonable and sane by comparison.
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Because most of us don't believe the 'Cheaper' part at all, considering the particular old-boy network of insurers, pharms, providers, politicians, and agenda organizations behind it, as well as the outright lies propagated to push it through including the outrageously corrupt costing process used by CBO.
As far as 'Universal' goes, we mostly think the only thing correct about that part is that the care recipients are going to universally get screwed from multiple directions.
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Because most of us don't believe the 'Cheaper' part at all, considering the particular old-boy network of insurers, pharms, providers, politicians, and agenda organizations behind it, as well as the outright lies propagated to push it through including the outrageously corrupt costing process used by CBO.
As far as 'Universal' goes, we mostly think the only thing correct about that part is that the care recipients are going to universally get screwed from multiple directions.
Unless of course you're rich and can afford to go pay for some quality healthcare. But that's a whole nuther DU outrage vein they haven't even tapped or for that matter thought of yet.
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Because most Americans are the people that can be fooled some of the time. DUchebags are the people that can be fooled all of the time.
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Well, the number one reason is because we're not Europeans. But, has Europe looked at itself lately? Some countries have showed signs of economic maturity.
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Why On Earth Would Americans Vote Bush-Cheney Agenda Back Into Power?
Maybe unemployment at around 5%?
Maybe the fact that after we were attacked in the 90's and 2000's such as the attacks involving WTC1, Khobar Towers, African Embassy Bombings, Black Hawk down in Somalia, the USS Cole and WTC 2 that we weren't attacked again under Bush's Presidency?
I could go on.
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Hey Europe,while you settle into insolvency from your socialist policies here is a little idea how much I care what you think.
:bigbird:
:lmao:
I just "appropriated" that gif. You know. Redistribution of wealth and all that.
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...and the US should care what Europe thinks .. why exactly ?
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...and the US should care what Europe thinks .. why exactly ?
Exactly. That's why our Founding Fathers left Europe; to get away from those twits.
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...and the US should care what Europe thinks .. why exactly ?
Don't know, because we and you Aussies will be bailing their asses out again in the near future, I'm afraid.
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Hey Europe,while you settle into insolvency from your socialist policies here is a little idea how much I care what you think.
:bigbird:
Carl, this hit the nail square on the head! AWESOME! :cheersmate: