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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on November 11, 2010, 08:26:34 PM
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salinen (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Nov-11-10 09:06 PM
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S.S. & unemployment are not entitlement programs goddammit
We pay a price for that service. It's an insurance policy. Some of us pay into this policy whether we want to or not. Entitlement programs are like soup lines, and food stamps. ****.
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Once again I say, you see what they have done with SS yet you trust them with your healthcare.
msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Nov-11-10 09:07 PM
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1. US military is an entitlement program nt
Oh my, that post was so stupid that my IQ lost 10 points temporarily for reading it.
PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Nov-11-10 09:10 PM
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3. It *IS* an entitlement by definition.
Stop demonizing the word "entitlement".
Entitlement is a guarantee of access to benefits because of rights or by agreement through
The problem is you goons think just for being born you are entitled to free pot and cheetos for life.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-11-10 09:07 PM
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1. US military is an entitlement program nt
Huh?!? :confused:
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Huh?!? :confused:
It's that Military pay is socialism bullshit the goons have been spewing.
Of all federal employees they are the only ones who produce something.
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It's that Military pay is socialism bullshit the goons have been spewing.
What a bunch of idiots. :loser:
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-11-10 09:07 PM
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1. US military is an entitlement program nt
I'm proud to be a taxpayer burden:
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It's that Military pay is socialism bullshit the goons have been spewing.
Of all federal employees they are the only ones who produce something.
Oh, it's not just loopy dipshit leftists that are spewing that meme...right bkg?
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It's that Military pay is socialism bullshit the goons have been spewing.
I've heard that arguement before. It doesn't even qualify a rebuttal. :banghead:
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I've heard that arguement before. It doesn't even qualify a rebuttal. :banghead:
Hell, it doesn't even qualify as intelligent or coherent. :mental:
Damn, these people are stooopid! These posts must be originating from Kalifornia, post Prop 19. It should be against the law to post while impaired, but the DUmp would go silent if it were.
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Unemployment has most certainly been turned into an entitlement. 26 weeks being stretched to 99 with talk of more sounds like it to anyone but a DUmmie.
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Well, the DUmmies are half right--SS isn't an entitlement. It's a PONZI scheme.
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Well, here's a little gem:
PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-11-10 09:18 PM
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5. Idiot teabillies think that SS is a tax. They think this because they are stupid. People pay into SS, and it is no different than a 401K - with 1 exception: it's safer. However, it's far from an entitlement the way they think of an entitlement, as money that gets taken from them and given to those dirty neegras and messicans. But, as I said before, they think that because they are stupid.
I named my kitten Nikki. But it was after Nickey Haley.
Egalitariat (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-11-10 10:18 PM
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9. SS can be a freeloader program
My grandmother is 94 and she has collected tens of thousands of SS dollars and I'm pretty sure she never paid in a dime. She can do this because she's "entitled" to it.
Doused the fire.
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I'm sure you all have heard but kalifornia is BORROWING $40 million a day to pay unemployment benefits.
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salinen (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Nov-11-10 09:06 PM
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S.S. & unemployment are not entitlement programs goddammit
Yeah they are. Entitlements aren't necessarily evil, but they ultimately have to be affordable. These two have sprouted extra heads to feed to the point that they aren't affordable in their current state.
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And here I thought we were only entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Silly me.
Cindie
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People pay into SS, and it is no different than a 401K - with 1 exception: it's safer.
Wrong again Assmonkey. With a 401(K) you can dictate where the money is invested.
Safer? That's debateable. I'd rather put my money into a simple 401(K) that has the option to invest in a simple $1 per share Money Market Fund earning minimal interest or invest in a few Index or Blue Chip Funds than have my money confiscated by the SS Admin.
At least in the Money Market Fund I'll get a yield and in the Index or Blue Chip Fund I will get some growth in my principle over time.
Did'nt anybody on DUmmies Island ever take Econ 101 in High School or College? They just want to let the gubbment take their money and look out for them. Nanny-staters disgust me. :hammer:
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PeaceNikki
Idiot teabillies think that SS is a tax.
I wonder if the gov't calling it "SS tax" has anything to do with that?
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PeaceNikki
Idiot teabillies think that SS is a tax.
I wonder if DUmmies realise that SS, based upon a number of factors, may be taxed to you as income when you start receiving it.
So...
1. The gubbment takes it from your income.
2. Holds it until they say you can access it.
3. "Ponzi's" it out to other federal spending programs without providing interest to you.
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3. May tax you on it when and if you ever do start receiving it.
Nice scam they got going there. Thank you FDR!
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I wonder if DUmmies realise that SS, based upon a number of factors, may be taxed to you as income when you start receiving it.
So...
1. The gubbment takes it from your income.
2. Holds it until they say you can access it.
3. "Ponzi's" it out to other federal spending programs without providing interest to you.
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3. May tax you on it when and if you ever do start receiving it.
Nice scam they got going there. Thank you FDR!
DUmmies and simple economics are just complete opposites. As is common sense.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Nov-11-10 09:07 PM
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1. US military is an entitlement program nt
Yet is the ONLY "entitlement program" whereas you can have your head shot off for participating in it.
Imagine - you DUmmys are using your food stamp debit card buying Twinkies and Cheetos, you swipe your card, your random number comes up, a guy in the bakery pops up, and drops a .223 slug into your temple.
You fracking sack of horse manure....
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Imagine - you DUmmys are using your food stamp debit card buying Twinkies and Cheetos, you swipe your card, your random number comes up, a guy in the bakery pops up, and drops a .223 slug into your temple.
Ooooo I like this idea! How do we get it passed and implemented? :-)
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Perhaps the DUmmies LIKE the fact that the government takes away 12.4 percent of their income and IF they're lucky they get an inflation-adusted whopping ****ing 1.2 percent rate of return, unless you're a male minority, in which case your return is LESS THAN ZERO. That's right, assmonkeys, African-American males (particularly lower income) can look to receive LESS in benefits than they paid in.
Oh, but isn't that "social justice" and shit like that?
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Perhaps the DUmmies LIKE the fact that the government takes away 12.4 percent of their income and IF they're lucky they get an inflation-adusted whopping ****ing 1.2 percent rate of return, unless you're a male minority, in which case your return is LESS THAN ZERO. That's right, assmonkeys, African-American males (particularly lower income) can look to receive LESS in benefits than they paid in.
Oh, but isn't that "social justice" and shit like that?
How is that so? Is iit because black males have a statistically higher mortality rate?
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How is that so? Is iit because black males have a statistically higher mortality rate?
Mostly. I'd have to look it up but a black male who reaches 65 typically only lives 3-4 more years on average.
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Oh, but isn't that "social justice" and shit like that?
I love it when the libtards and DUmmies use those words. Such a perversion of those words with those people.
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Of all federal employees they are the only ones who produce something.
I beg to differ
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I beg to differ
Please explain. Who else produces--or secures--our freedom? If you don't have that, you have nothing!
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Quote from: caballo loco
Quote from: Freeper on November 11, 2010, 05:30:12 pm
Of all federal employees they are the only ones who produce something.
I beg to differ
Please explain. Who else produces--or secures--our freedom? If you don't have that, you have nothing!
You're moving the goal posts there, that is not the quoted part of the proposition put forward by Freeper to which CL was responding.
Preserving freedom, for that matter, is a service, and actually an indirect but desired result of the Federal military establishment, whose first order service is simply neutralization of foreign military threats by large scale use of whip-ass or at least the credible ability to do same in the minds of our adversaries. Many parts of the Federal government can lay claim to 'securing our freedom,' as much as the military can - DOJ, Congress, State, parts of Commerce, parts of Interior, and even (ptui) EEOC for instance. Other parts can claim their purpose is to protect the freedom and rights of the population from abuses by the few, such as the Federal Courts, Forest Service, Fish and Wildlife Service, parts of Commerce and Agriculture, parts of FAA, and even (double ptui) EPA.
The idea that the military is the only part of the Federal government worth paying for is a silly exaggeration. If we really went that way, we'd start looking a lot like Yugoslavia in 1992. Our stable and sometimes-annoying governmental structure mutually interacts with our economy in a much more complex system than the Paulistas and other oversimplifiers want to pretend. Screwing with it on a large and drastic scale would have second-order effects on the economy that would make the current dead-dog recovery's cataleptic response to simple tax rate uncertainty look like a damn' gold rush.
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Please explain. Who else produces--or secures--our freedom? If you don't have that, you have nothing!
DAT said it the best.