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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ml08180 on November 07, 2010, 10:09:31 PM
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What's your opinion, are you against it, netural on the subject, or do you support them being given marriage rights?
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If this issue was of interest to any of the members here, don't you think there would already be a discussion on it?
Congratulations on being the latest in a long line of people who started yet another thread on this pointless subject.
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I take it you're neutral then. I just wanted to see people's opinions, that's all. I'm honestly astounded at the amount of flaming here...
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It's a conservative discussion forum. What do you expect the majority of opinions to be?
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I'm just curious, many people don't care, some are opposed, a few are for the rights, it's really a matter of personal opinion.
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he's phrasing this question awkwardly, like everything else he has written on the forum tonight.
dude, there is a difference between people's general attitudes regarding homosexuality versus their opinions on the gay rights agenda. I'm not even sure I know what being "against homosexuality" would be.
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What's your opinion, are you against it, netural on the subject, or do you support them being given marriage rights?
Against. Like you REALLY have to ask?
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Forget it, I came here tonight to try and find out the general idea of where most conservitives stand on the whole issue of gay rights, but obviously I came to the wrong forum, seeing as though unless I'm as specific as I can possibly be my questions are regarded as stupid. Ugh, why do I even bother sometimes...
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:awjeez:
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There is a search feature built into the forum software. ;) The "homosexuality" subject has been beaten into the dirt......
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Forget it, I came here tonight to try and find out the general idea of where most conservitives stand on the whole issue of gay rights, but obviously I came to the wrong forum, seeing as though unless I'm as specific as I can possibly be my questions are regarded as stupid. Ugh, why do I even bother sometimes...
What "rights" do queers NOT have?
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There is a search feature built into the forum software. ;) The "homosexuality" subject has been beaten into the dirt......
:lmao: Ew...
Listen 180...
1. You certainly could have used our nifty little search feature.
2. If you're going to call us all flamers, (forum flamers, but irony is odd) don't act all dejected, and crest fallen when you get responses. You are the one calling US out.
3. This seems like a baiting topic to me. I'm not the smartest guy on earth, but the thread is still young, but I have a funny feeling that this thread could end up in FC soon. It may be your general solemn interest, or it may be a tactict to stir that pot, but whatever it is, you have been told to do research for the opinions you seek. So press on with it.
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180, you treat us as if this is our first BBQ. Guess what?? It's not. The fact is homosexuals have the same "RIGHTS", as defined by the Constitution as everybody else. The fact that they want to get "married" is nothing but an "in your face" attempt at FORCING the majority of the population to accept something they don't want to accept. Even the gay rights marriage issue FAILED in California, of ALL places. That, in itself, should tell you something about the majority of the US. To keep it brief, most of us couldn't care less what a person does in their own home with another consenting ADULT. Forcing those beliefs on us is similar to forcing a Jew to become Muslim.
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Forget it, I came here tonight to try and find out the general idea of where most conservitives stand on the whole issue of gay rights, but obviously I came to the wrong forum, seeing as though unless I'm as specific as I can possibly be my questions are regarded as stupid. Ugh, why do I even bother sometimes...
Was your intent to come here and learn? Or to tell us how wrong we are after learning that the vast majority of us don't approve of homosexuality.
Riddle me this n00b...what right as laid out by the Constitution do gays NOT have in 2010?
What inalienable rights are they being denied?
Give us an idea where you are coming from on this and maybe we can answer your question better.
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Question 180 ..
Assuming that homosexuality is inherited rather than learned behavior, and science were to "find" the genetic abnormality that predetermines it - would it be ethical for science to produce a test and or cure ?
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1. Against the behavior on biological grounds, (deviant from the norm of mammalian reproduction, unsanitary, and pathogenic); on religious grounds (an abomination before the Lord); and on personal grounds (just eww).
2. Tolerant toward the practitioners thereof (they will meet the Righteous Judge eventually, and shrieking "homophobe!" at Him will be ineffective).
3. I do wish they would be as loud and specific about the way they like their orgasms as I am about mine (that is, silent and indeed protective of that information).
4. Marriage is not a right. Not for homos, not for heteros, not for anyone. Millions who would like to marry cannot, and sometimes that's a lifelong situation. You have as much right to marry as you have to play professional polo. It can be done if you gain the qualifications, but most likely you'll be in an amateur league. Even that requires a rider and a horse; two riders can't play polo-- any more than two men can truly make a married couple.
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Question 180 ..
Assuming that homosexuality is inherited rather than learned behavior, and science were to "find" the genetic abnormality that predetermines it - would it be ethical for science to produce a test and or cure ?
....and if that "cure" were abortion....the DUmmies would start to look like Chinese contortionist. :rotf:
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I take it you're neutral then. I just wanted to see people's opinions, that's all. I'm honestly astounded at the amount of flaming here...
heh.
Flaming....homosexuality.... :lmao:
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Bitchslapped for being an idiot savante of faggotry.
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I take it you're neutral then. I just wanted to see people's opinions, that's all. I'm honestly astounded at the amount of flaming here...
:lol:
so says the queen of the ball(s).
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Just in case this guy comes back (doubtful - maybe he's out trolling for dick), here's where I stand:
1. Teh ghey is abnormal. Some guy taking a dick up the poop chute or smoking a pole just isn't what makes babies.
2. You a biological guy and you want to smoke a pole and/or take it up the ass? You have the personal freedom to do that in the privacy of your own home and with consenting adults.
3. Don't expect me to support your gheyness. It's a disease of the mind. You should be treated for your condition, if it doesn't cost the taxpayers anything.
Other than that, ExGeeEye has it down perfectly.
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There's a website called Hillbuzz run by gay guys from Chicago who happen to be recovering liberals and are now very much in support of Sarah Palin and other conservative candidates. A question like 180's would be banned over there :yahoo:
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What's your opinion, are you against it, netural on the subject, or do you support them being given marriage rights?
...why do you care what a bunch of "breeders" think anyway? It's a free country. Go ahead and get your freak on. Call it "marriage" if you want. Hell, call it "celery." Just don't force me to condone it. Why do you try so hard for societal acceptance? Who cares?
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Against. I'm throughly dissapointed that Lezbo's in real life are never as hot as the ones in porn.
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My opinion on this is different than most here. And I've already discussed this here once, and quite frankly, I don't want to do it again. It is not always easy being the lone one with your opinion.
I don't care if you are gay or not.
I think most gay people are born that way.
I would like gay people to have the same rights as far as being considered a spouse legally.
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That last one begs me to keep the discussion going, soleil. Begs me to scream "Why?! What would it help?!"
However, if you don't want to have the discussion again, I won't do what homo's have done in hollywood, on TV, in movies, and in politics...force you to have it.
And I agree whineslob. One of the many enigmas in life.
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I would like gay people to have the same rights as far as being considered a spouse legally.
Ah- that is a completely different matter.
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That last one begs me to keep the discussion going, soleil. Begs me to scream "Why?! What would it help?!"
However, if you don't want to have the discussion again, I won't do what homo's have done in hollywood, on TV, in movies, and in politics...force you to have it.
And I agree whineslob. One of the many enigmas in life.
What I mean by that is for instance if you have no family and you have a gay partner and are in the hospital, I think the partner should be considered family as a spouse would be and able to make the decisions a spouse could make. And I think they should get the same tax breaks that a married couple gets. Why? Just because I think it is the right thing to do if it is a committed relationship as a marriage is. Some places have civil unions, but not all places do.
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What I mean by that is for instance if you have no family and you have a gay partner and are in the hospital, I think the partner should be considered family as a spouse would be and able to make the decisions a spouse could make. And I think they should get the same tax breaks that a married couple gets. Why? Just because I think it is the right thing to do if it is a committed relationship as a marriage is. Some places have civil unions, but not all places do.
Hear that giant sucking sound, soleil? That's you getting sucked into this discussion. :lmao:
Carry on. :whistling:
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Ah- that is a completely different matter.
Yes I guess it is, and I know many won't support marriage because they believe it is a religious institution and many think it is morally wrong.
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Hear that giant sucking sound, soleil? That's you getting sucked into this discussion. :lmao:
Carry on. :whistling:
I know! Dammit I am weak!!
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Yes I guess it is, and I know many won't support marriage because they believe it is a religious institution and many think it is morally wrong.
We've been over that - marriage is a social contract with deep significance to many (not all) religions.
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What I mean by that is for instance if you have no family and you have a gay partner and are in the hospital, I think the partner should be considered family as a spouse would be and able to make the decisions a spouse could make.
They already have something for that. It's called a Medical Power of Attorney. It works, trust me. I was supposed to have surgery last April. My girlfriend had a Medical Power of Attorney. The Hospital didn't even blink an eye.
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They already have something for that. It's called a Medical Power of Attorney. It works, trust me. I was supposed to have surgery last April. My girlfriend had a Medical Power of Attorney. The Hospital didn't even blink an eye.
The queers don't want to have to go through the hassle and expense of getting the legal paperwork done. In short, they're lazy. They'd just rather "show up" at the hospital and expect things to happen for them because they're "an item". :whatever:
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The queers don't want to have to go through the hassle and expense of getting the legal paperwork done. In short, they're lazy. They'd just rather "show up" at the hospital and expect things to happen for them because they're "an item". :whatever:
Here in Texas, there was NO expense. Hell, the Hospital even provided the paperwork. Just had to fill it out, get it witnessed, et voila, finé
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Here in Texas, there was NO expense. Hell, the Hospital even provided the paperwork. Just had to fill it out, get it witnessed, et voila, finé
Now THAT'S what I call service! Seriously, that's a good thing.
****ing faggots have no excuse now, at least in Texas, or better said, at that hospital.
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Now THAT'S what I call service! Seriously, that's a good thing.
****ing faggots have no excuse now, at least in Texas, or better said, at that hospital.
It's not limited to Texas Euph.........virtually EVERY hospital in the US (and most Doctor's offices) will provide a medical PoA, and a DNR form that is appropriate if requested.
They are even available on the 'net......
doc
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Yeah, it didn't even take two minutes to fill out.
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Forget it, I came here tonight to try and find out the general idea of where most conservitives stand on the whole issue of gay rights, but obviously I came to the wrong forum, seeing as though unless I'm as specific as I can possibly be my questions are regarded as stupid. Ugh, why do I even bother sometimes...
Juding by your very first post in this forum, it looks as if the only thing you came here to do was lecture and look down your nose at us. You'll excuse us if we don't roll out the red carpet for you. And you got in a couple of tired old lefty talking points on all the popular issues of the day. Congratulations.
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The last words some queer will hear.
"Unplug him. He has a pair of wingtip shoes that are to die for."
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The last words some queer will hear.
"Unplug him. He has a pair of wingtip shoes that are to die for."
:rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao:
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What I mean by that is for instance if you have no family and you have a gay partner and are in the hospital, I think the partner should be considered family as a spouse would be and able to make the decisions a spouse could make. And I think they should get the same tax breaks that a married couple gets. Why? Just because I think it is the right thing to do if it is a committed relationship as a marriage is. Some places have civil unions, but not all places do.
The tax breaks thing is what gets me the most. Why should they get tax breaks when they are the MAIN CAUSE of AIDS, Hep A, B, C, D, etc, and a plethora of other problems. I see no same courtesy given to smokers. In fact, things have cracked down on us. And we're not putting the human race in jeopardy. Only ourselves.
By all means, let your partner make the decisions that need to be made if you're a gay man in need of hospital care, but tax breaks, and other gratuities that regular married couples get? I can't roll with that. You're trying to equate that homosexuals are normal couples. Sorry, but I think not. What they do is CLEARLY abnormal. It has just become a bit more accepted in modern society.
Tell me, soleil...are we going to eventually accept pedophilia, necrophilia, or bestiality as normal activities sometime in the future. I believe the discussion we are having now begs that question.
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Homosexuality goes against nature. Anyways, why are you here asking it.
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Little Lib Turdmonkey ran away......
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Little Lib Turdmonkey ran away......
I vote we delete the whole thread!
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I vote we delete the whole thread!
BSed for thinking you have a vote.....
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The queers don't want to have to go through the hassle and expense of getting the legal paperwork done. In short, they're lazy. They'd just rather "show up" at the hospital and expect things to happen for them because they're "an item". :whatever:
It's not about any social or emotional contract that gays are looking for. It's about the money.
When people say it's not about the money...it's ALWAYS about the money.
THey want the bennies that normal married people have. In their mind it's a "right" they are being denied.
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It's not about any social or emotional contract that gays are looking for. It's about the money.
When people say it's not about the money...it's ALWAYS about the money.
THey want the bennies that normal married people have. In their mind it's a "right" they are being denied.
Imagine the insurance claims if gay marriage were allowed, and companies are forced to cover the gay partners, who may have a pre-existing case of AIDS.
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Imagine the insurance claims if gay marriage were allowed, and companies are forced to cover the gay partners, who may have a pre-existing case of AIDS.
But WAIT.... if DeathCare becomes the law. The government will be the "insurance" for this bunch!
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But WAIT.... if DeathCare becomes the law. The government will be the "insurance" for this bunch!
And where will that money come from? Us !
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And where will that money come from? Us !
Of course it will. That makes it even more awful. That lifestyle is unnatural, then they force it upon us. Just wrong.
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Imagine the insurance claims if gay marriage were allowed, and companies are forced to cover the gay partners, who may have a pre-existing case of AIDS.
"Domestic partners" are already covered with medical insurance in my company. It's disgusting. All someone has to do is prove that they are an "item" - proof being in the form of a bill or other document with the "partner's" name on it at the same address.
Packers of fudge are already getting what they've been screaming for. As if the gay lifestyle is a viable one. :whatever:
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And where will that money come from? Us !
Great another way to drain my pocket :argh:
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Imagine the insurance claims if gay marriage were allowed, and companies are forced to cover the gay partners, who may have a pre-existing case of AIDS.
Thundley you youngsters make me laugh.
In the 1960's health would not cover preexisting conditions for a couple that got married.
Say the couple get married and the female contacts a HoneyMoon pregnancy. By the rules of the game, the child was covered on their Fathers policy and the woman had to PROVE she was not pregnant before marriage to get her prenatal care covered.
What a mess, only way to prove that would have to give birth to a 3 pound baby.
Today the Medical field has placed a weight limit on baby's, most children that weighed under 5 pounds are considered a few weeks premature.
Back then there was NO dental insurance, so workers with medical insurance and a few bad teeth had their dentists put them in the hospital, pull all their teeth there and replace them with dentures. Insurance would cover all the costs for that procedure.
In the early 1980's people that died by accident at say 25, the insurance company's that had to pay double indemnity would spend allot of money to track down the mans health records trying to prove the insured may have had AIDS and cut back on the insurance payment as they claimed the deceased would have died anyway in a year.
I do agree that MONEY is at the base of the Gays desire to marry.
Lot's of fraud on both sides of the coin.