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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on November 04, 2010, 01:30:18 PM
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-04-10 10:59 AM
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Bush says in memoir he approved waterboarding
Source: The Washington Post
Human rights experts have long pressed the administration of former president George W. Bush for details of who bore ultimate responsibility for approving the simulated drownings of CIA detainees, a practice that many international legal experts say was illicit torture.
In a memoir due out Tuesday, Bush makes clear that he personally approved the use of that coercive technique against alleged Sept. 11 plotter Khalid Sheik Mohammed, an admission the human rights experts say could one day have legal consequences for him.
In his book, titled "Decision Points," Bush recounts being asked by the CIA whether it could proceed with waterboarding Mohammed, who Bush said was suspected of knowing about still-pending terrorist plots against the United States. Bush writes that his reply was "Damn right" and states that he would make the same decision again to save lives, according to a someone close to Bush who has read the book.
Bush previously had acknowledged endorsing what he described as the CIA's "enhanced" interrogation techniques - a term meant to encompass irregular, coercive methods - after Justice Department officials and other top aides assured him they were legal. "I was a big supporter of waterboarding," Vice President Richard B. Cheney acknowledged in a television interview in February.
Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4600234
ixion (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-04-10 11:02 AM
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1. Right, then. Off to the Hauge with you, Mr. Bush.
The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-04-10 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #1
9. No, we're not suppose to demand justice. It's too conflicting and divisive.
Think of us as a dysfunctional family. Think of us as the most screwed up one in the room is controlling the intervention.
That is what DU is.
Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-04-10 11:02 AM
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2. Can the Hague find him guilty of war crimes
now that he's confessed?
much more of the same follows.
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Bush previously had acknowledged endorsing what he described as the CIA's "enhanced" interrogation techniques - a term meant to encompass irregular, coercive methods - after Justice Department officials and other top aides assured him they were legal. "I was a big supporter of waterboarding," Vice President Richard B. Cheney acknowledged in a television interview in February.
I still am, suck it DUmmies.
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The ignorant being led by the stupid.
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Your headline made me laff, Thudley.
I like that bumpersticker that says "I'd Rather be Waterboarding."
My only other comment is what a boring, boring thread.
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I say let the CIA do their thing and if they prevent planes being flown into buildings? we all ought to be grateful to them.
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On their deathbeds, these DUmmies will STILL be lamenting this . . . truly pathetic ::)
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The CIA can do whatever they want outside this country they want as long as they don't run afoul of the countries laws they do it in. Afghanistan and Iraq had a rich history of torture that didn't seem to bother anyone until we got there. If they do it on a US military installation so what? All's fair in love and war. The scumbags they used it on deserved it and they thwarted an attack so good on 'em.
Waterboarding is a semi-legit interrogation technique used for hundreds of years. The people using it are professionals who know what they're doing. Not a couple of drooling DUmmies with a garden hose and no clue.
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Another DUmmie has another thread (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9479131) started on the same topic.
I'd be willing to bet that GWB checked with lawyers as to whether he could be charged with any crime for admitting this. OTOH, most patriotic Americans would raise hell if someone tried to arrest him for trying to keep us safe.
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From now on we will let muslims cut off DUmmie heads until the detainee talks.
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OTOH, most patriotic Americans would raise hell if someone tried to arrest him for trying to keep us safe.
I'd do you one better--the DUmors that tried to apprehend him would face a seriously violent end. :hammer:
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-04-10 11:37 AM
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9. No, we're not suppose to demand justice. It's too conflicting and divisive. Think of us as a dysfunctional family.
Think of us as the most screwed up one in the room is controlling the intervention.
Wait? "Demand justice" for the terrorists that attacked us?! You want justice for those sub-humans?! How un-American can you get?
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Yeah, that "Hauge" thing could be a real problem. If we'd done anything bad to a lawful combatant, anyway.
:hammer:
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Hmmm, I wonder what our founding fathers would have done to Khalid Sheik Mohammed. It's a mystery really.
:whatever:
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Hmmm, I wonder what our founding fathers would have done to Khalid Sheik Mohammed. It's a mystery really.
:whatever:
Some of my ancestors were around then, first-in frontiersmen and a few Indians among them. I can say with complete assurance that it would have both legendary and, eventually, fatal for KSM if they'd gotten hold of him. They were NOT people to **** around with, period.
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Some of my ancestors were around then, first-in frontiersmen and a few Indians among them. I can say with complete assurance that it would have both legendary and, eventually, fatal for KSM if they'd gotten hold of him. They were NOT people to **** around with, period.
200 years ago some of the founding fathers sent the Marines over there to kick some ass...that lesson lasted almost 200 years... but then, the founding fathers allowed the Marines to do their job.
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On their deathbeds, these DUmmies will STILL be lamenting this . . . truly pathetic ::)
It may be pathetic, but it's still hilarious to watch. I hope they like the taste of chewing on their livers.