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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: IassaFTots on November 02, 2010, 03:51:26 PM
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-02-10 04:28 PM
Original message
I ain't dropping no friends over politics.
It's just politics.
Come on, folks, we all blog like this is important and earth shaking, but the really bad stuff we don't really talk about much. Like the war.
Our little dustup in Afghanistan has gone on longer than any war we've ever been in, and shows no sign of easing up. Where are all the antiwar people who supported Obama and got him into the White House? Well, he's in there, it ain't like he promised them nothing, and they already voted for him and paid money and put his bumper sticker on they cars, right? They say, "well, what about us?"
"I don't know you people. I didn't promise you nothing." And rightly so. They was what you call 'friends of convenience.'
So what about the federal debt?
Oh, it's real bad, real reckless. We gotta have some fiscal discipline. Them Pubbies spend like reckless drunken sailors using someone else's credit card. We gotta vote for some Democrats. Well, did the Democrats promise debt reduction? Did they? No. Them fiscal hawks wasn't promised nothing. That was one of them 'expedient political alliances,' and now that alliance ain't necessary no more.
And what about civil rights?
Them Pubbies was real bad, wrecking the constitution and all, invading our constitutional rights, taking away our freedom of speech with that patriot act, singling out people so they could be persecuted without no trials, dong searches without warrants...
So? Was you promised that your civil liberties would be restored? Did someone promise you that the President wouldn't assume the right to kill people without trials? Was you, personally, promised that the TSA wouldn't look at naked pictures of you at the airport? Was you? I don't recollect it, do you? Okay, then. That respect for civil liberties thing, well, that was one of them friendships for the sake of an objective, which was an election, and now the election is over, the objective was achieved, and now we ain't that good of friends no more.
How about single payer health care? That there was a biggie, right?
Well, was you, personally, ever promised that your insurance premiums wouldn't go up? Was you, personally, promised that the bill that got through wouldn't make more money for the insurance companies than it produced in coverage? Was you promised that? Did someone promise you 'single payer'? I didn't think so. You see, we was never really friends. We was more like "allies of the moment".
I got friends. They gonna love me no matter how I vote. I'm gonna love them no matter how they vote. I don't care about their politics. They don't care about mine. But if I lose my job, I can bunk at their house, and so can my kids. They're loyal. They do what they promise to me, because we are friends.
I don't have no friends in Washington.
The only other post?
txaslftist (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-02-10 04:40 PM
Response to Original message
1. ... and that is crickets...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9445438
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Awwwww, that was nice.
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Was you promised that? Was you? Yeah, that was pretty nice.
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Link?
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Link?
Oh hell. My Bad.
Here it is.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9445438
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Oh hell. My Bad.
Here it is.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9445438
No problem, we all forget the link from time to time.
A couple more replies:
Bigmack (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-02-10 04:51 PM
Response to Original message
2. I've tried to answer this post with something that ...
doesn't insult the OPer.
Difficult.
This shit is serious now, and getting more serious.... war, economy, jobs, military spending, the poor.... The direction this country is headed is down, and the government actions will either mitigate the effects on the vast majority of Americans, or make a few even richer at the expense of all of us.
I can't even pretend it doesn't make a huge difference to me.
If a friend is a Republibagger, I have no time for them. I have none of those people around me. A Republican? Our world views are totally at odds. What do we have in common?
We can go fishing together or something, but I don't talk politics with them, and if they insist.... we're done entirely.
It's a matter of values, and since values are important to me, I don't hang out with people whose values are the opposite of mine.
txaslftist (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-02-10 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Insults are cool.
I don't mind.
But I live in a red, red place. Lubbock.
1) If I limited my friends to Democrats, I wouldn't have many at all.
2) The Democrats I have sent money to and voted for haven't exactly turned things around. I know that the pubbies have filibustered us 100 times or so, and it ain't exactly fair to say the Dems haven't been working for us, but with a dem house and senate and white house, I shouldn't be driving to Dallas because the thought of naked pictures of my wife being passed around by TSA goons makes me, literally, sick, so I can't fly. That shit is ALL executive branch.
3) People change their views. And maybe you have spent too much time here, among the idealogically similar. Maybe you should talk to some of your neighbors, even the Red ones, see where they are coming from.
4) We really are about to go through the worst economic crisis our nation has seen since the Great Depression. There really is nothing left the government can do to avoid it. Really. Take a look at the economic collapse blog. It's alarmist, but it's also all true. You are going to need friends, and most of them pubbies keep a lot of fresh meat in their freezers.
You might think that's specious. It might be. Let's hope so.
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4) We really are about to go through the worst economic crisis our nation has seen since the Great Depression. There really is nothing left the government can do to avoid it. Really. Take a look at the economic collapse blog. It's alarmist, but it's also all true. You are going to need friends, and most of them pubbies keep a lot of fresh meat in their freezers.
Too many more comments like that and I doubt txleftist will be much longer with DU. Upside down flag and all.
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Was you promised that? Was you? Yeah, that was pretty nice.
The part I liked was this:
I got friends. They gonna love me no matter how I vote. I'm gonna love them no matter how they vote. I don't care about their politics. They don't care about mine. But if I lose my job, I can bunk at their house, and so can my kids. They're loyal. They do what they promise to me, because we are friends
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The part I liked was this:
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Indeed. A bit of level-headedness over there. Just a bit.