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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: chitownchica on November 01, 2010, 05:37:47 PM
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http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/01/its-come-to-this-desperate-obama-to-do-gotv-interview-with-ryan-seacrest/
Look, just look, at what this guy’s been reduced to. Two years ago, he was accepting the Democratic nomination in front of a mock Parthenon; now, to try to recapture the young voters he’s lost, he’s forced to make chitchat with the host of our generation’s Gong Show. What’s next? A tango with Michelle on tonight’s Dancing With the Stars followed by a pitch to go vote?
I’m almost sad. Almost...
More at link.
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It's fitting, really. During the presidential campaign he was referred to as "The American Idol" candidate.
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It's fitting, really. During the presidential campaign he was referred to as "The American Idol" candidate.
Ha - completely forgot about that. Definitely fitting.
H5 Thundley :)
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Ryan Seacrest? Oh my.
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Ryan Seacrest needs his ass beat for subjecting us to the Kardashians.
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Now wonder why the imposter has time to go on Comedy Central and shows as the The View, it's because his presidency is a J_O_K_E!
He's a joke.
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I don't think this is such a big deal, he's simply using media to get his message out there. This is what campaigning is. What's the outrage based on? Do you think the president should be above using popular programs to campaign?
The problem is with America...that crappy programs like American Idol or Dancing with the Stars are so popular. If millions didn't watch, then the president wouldn't feel the need to appear on them to campaign.
Remember that President Bush also appeared on American Idol via video screen to thank Idol (and Bono!) for helping raise money for charity.
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Well, Tricky Dick did appear on Laugh-In......
Sock it to me? :P
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I don't think this is such a big deal, he's simply using media to get his message out there. This is what campaigning is. What's the outrage based on? Do you think the president should be above using popular programs to campaign?
The problem is with America...that crappy programs like American Idol or Dancing with the Stars are so popular. If millions didn't watch, then the president wouldn't feel the need to appear on them to campaign.
Remember that President Bush also appeared on American Idol via video screen to thank Idol (and Bono!) for helping raise money for charity.
Yeah that is the same as giving policy interviews to comedians. Absolutely.
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I don't think this is such a big deal, he's simply using media to get his message out there. This is what campaigning is. What's the outrage based on? Do you think the president should be above using popular programs to campaign? The problem is with America...that crappy programs like American Idol or Dancing with the Stars are so popular. If millions didn't watch, then the president wouldn't feel the need to appear on them to campaign. Remember that President Bush also appeared on American Idol via video screen to thank Idol (and Bono!) for helping raise money for charity.
Only a lib/DUmmie/progressive wouldn't see anything wrong with it. Campaigning? This imposter is STILL campaigning?!
That's what happens when people elect a community organizer that got brought up with communist ties. The imposter.
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He's the leader of his party, of course he would be campaigning during the midterms. This is a complete non-issue, you guys should find something substantive to be fake-outraged by.
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I don't think this is such a big deal, he's simply using media to get his message out there. This is what campaigning is. What's the outrage based on? Do you think the president should be above using popular programs to campaign?
The problem is with America...that crappy programs like American Idol or Dancing with the Stars are so popular. If millions didn't watch, then the president wouldn't feel the need to appear on them to campaign.
Remember that President Bush also appeared on American Idol via video screen to thank Idol (and Bono!) for helping raise money for charity.
Slight difference between a videotaped message that appears on AI and appearing on such shows (so far) as:
--The Tonight Show
--Mythbusters
--The Daily Show
--The View
--George Lopez Show
(and mind you, this is since January 2009.)
Let's also not forget all the times he's had to go golfing, take six vacations over the summer (and a few more since).
Finally, there's the NUMEROUS times he appeared on shows such as Olbermann's prior to his election.
And you people accused Bush of being disengaged?
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bush was disengaged. if bush took notes from obama on how to be available to the american people, liberals would have praised him for it. one good thing about obama is that hes a man of the people; being accessible through popular mediums is never a bad thing for the president. the problem with bush is that he was awkward and a bad public speaker, thats probably why he wasnt as accessible as obama.
and criticizing obama for taking some vacations is a joke. during his first year in office, president george w bush spent the most days on vacation. and presidents that you love to hate, like jimmy carter, spent some of the least time on vacation. so really...the facts aren't on your side on this issue. best not even bring it up
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bush was disengaged. if bush took notes from obama on how to be available to the american people, liberals would have praised him for it. one good thing about obama is that hes a man of the people; being accessible through popular mediums is never a bad thing for the president. the problem with bush is that he was awkward and a bad public speaker, thats probably why he wasnt as accessible as obama.
Liberals pissed all over George Bush no matter what he did. Nothing I can say will convince you otherwise, so STFU.
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well, thats not true. liberals praised him for his work fighting aids in Africa. Liberals praised him for the strength he showed immedietely after 9/11 (after he got done reading My Pet Goat, but before he decided to invade Iraq). And I, personally, am not "all liberals". So don't generalize.
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I don't think this is such a big deal, he's simply using media to get his message out there. This is what campaigning is. What's the outrage based on? Do you think the president should be above using popular programs to campaign?
The only way that the President could have done worse as car as viewership and listening audience would have been to get interviewd by Special Keith and call in to Ed Schultz's radio program.
There are far better...dare I say Presidential ways to reach out to younger audiences.
The problem is with America...that crappy programs like American Idol or Dancing with the Stars are so popular. If millions didn't watch, then the president wouldn't feel the need to appear on them to campaign.
He shouldn't feel the need to appear on them in the first place. The only reason he does is because he knows that the majority of the people watching are a) young and b) not followers of politics and saavy to what a disaster his polices for this country really are.
Remember that President Bush also appeared on American Idol via video screen to thank Idol (and Bono!) for helping raise money for charity.
Apples and Oranges. Giant Fail on your part for trying to draw a comparison between the two.
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bush was disengaged. if bush took notes from obama on how to be available to the american people, liberals would have praised him for it. one good thing about obama is that hes a man of the people; being accessible through popular mediums is never a bad thing for the president. the problem with bush is that he was awkward and a bad public speaker, thats probably why he wasnt as accessible as obama.
and criticizing obama for taking some vacations is a joke. during his first year in office, president george w bush spent the most days on vacation. and presidents that you love to hate, like jimmy carter, spent some of the least time on vacation. so really...the facts aren't on your side on this issue. best not even bring it up
WTF? How could someone so narcissistic, so arrogant, so plastic POSSIBLY be a "man of the people?"
Here are a few examples of his insulting commentary:
Glenn Beck rally, 8/28/10: "It's not surprising that somebody like a Mr. Beck is able to stir up a certain portion of the country." (emphasis mine).
"Stir up?" Like I'm some kind of ****ing rabble-rousing lunatic chanting and screaming epithets during a demonstration? That kind of comment is insulting to me.
How about David Axelrod's stenographer Jonathan Alter, who quotes Obama as calling Tea Partiers "Tea Baggers"? you think that isn't insulting?
During Obama's "real" campaign (everything he's done since then has been the follow-up campaign), this one sets me off like no other: 'Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation – at least, not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.'
Who the **** is this guy and why is he denigrating my faith and the role it has had in this nation? Who the **** is he to pimp his own Muslim faith as something that it isn't - viable? His embracing of other faiths at the expense of Christianity is an outrage and a total insult.
On the international front, Obama has done nothing BUT insult Great Britain, one of our (probably formerly) staunchest allies. The length and breadth of those insults run from the retirement of Churchill's bust to the absolutely stupid "gift" of a ****ing DVD collection to Gordon Brown. And I won't even mention Obama's declaration that the U.S. would stay neutral in the conflict between Britain and Argentina over the Falklands. Even the Germans are shaking their heads in dismay, and they worship the ground Obama walks on.
"Man of the People?" - whoa, dude. You've clearly been at the Kool-Aid.
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WTF? How could someone so narcissistic, so arrogant, so plastic POSSIBLY be a "man of the people?"
Here are a few examples of his insulting commentary:
Glenn Beck rally, 8/28/10: "It's not surprising that somebody like a Mr. Beck is able to stir up a certain portion of the country." (emphasis mine).
"Stir up?" Like I'm some kind of ****ing rabble-rousing lunatic chanting and screaming epithets during a demonstration? That kind of comment is insulting to me.
Glenn Beck is a lunatic. You'd be hard pressed to find someone more conservative than my father, and even he hates glenn beck and thinks he's a lunatic. Also, anyone who attends a political protest is pretty much a lunatic. Political protests inherently draw on the fringe of political society. Sane, moderate people dont gather together to chant stupid slogans and wave stupid signs as if its somehow meaningful. They have better things to do.
How about David Axelrod's stenographer Jonathan Alter, who quotes Obama as calling Tea Partiers "Tea Baggers"? you think that isn't insulting?
Thats what they called THEMSELVES up until they realized it was already an existing term for a sexual act.
During Obama's "real" campaign (everything he's done since then has been the follow-up campaign), this one sets me off like no other: 'Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation – at least, not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.'
Who the **** is this guy and why is he denigrating my faith and the role it has had in this nation? Who the **** is he to pimp his own Muslim faith as something that it isn't - viable? His embracing of other faiths at the expense of Christianity is an outrage and a total insult.
You think that's insulting? Wait till I get going. **** religion. Being nondenominational and/or an unbeliever is the American way.
On the international front, Obama has done nothing BUT insult Great Britain, one of our (probably formerly) staunchest allies. The length and breadth of those insults run from the retirement of Churchill's bust to the absolutely stupid "gift" of a ****ing DVD collection to Gordon Brown. And I won't even mention Obama's declaration that the U.S. would stay neutral in the conflict between Britain and Argentina over the Falklands. Even the Germans are shaking their heads in dismay, and they worship the ground Obama walks on.
"Man of the People?" - whoa, dude. You've clearly been at the Kool-Aid.
Who cares what gifts he gives? Only you. Only people who love to complain about bullshit. He removed the bust of Churchill, A European and replaced it with a bust of Able Lincoln, an American. Do you people suddenly prefer European heros to American heros? news to me. Special relationship? It was George Washington who said "avoid foreign entanglements."
Personally, I think Winston Churchill was a great man and a great leader.
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Thats what they called THEMSELVES up until they realized it was already an existing term for a sexual act.
BS, it was given to them by the assholes on PMNSBC.
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wow, according to people like you guys, nobody watches MSNBC and its completely irrelevant. Suddenly you're giving them a lot of power to single-handedly rename an entire political movement. I'm sure if you do the research, you'll realize the tea partiers originally called themselves tea baggers...until the media started making fun of them for it
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wow, according to people like you guys, nobody watches MSNBC and its completely irrelevant. Suddenly you're giving them a lot of power to single-handedly rename an entire political movement. I'm sure if you do the research, you'll realize the tea partiers originally called themselves tea baggers...until the media started making fun of them for it
Bullshit. It was meant as a pejorative from the get-go. The pejorative emanated from the anti-Tea partiers, irrespective of the term that the Tea partiers used for themselves. FAIL.
Your "research" consists of you watching too many Rachel Madcow videos, and Keef Olberdork's worship of that so-called "journalist". FAIL.
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bush was disengaged. if bush took notes from obama on how to be available to the american people, liberals would have praised him for it. one good thing about obama is that hes a man of the people; being accessible through popular mediums is never a bad thing for the president. the problem with bush is that he was awkward and a bad public speaker, thats probably why he wasnt as accessible as obama.
and criticizing obama for taking some vacations is a joke. during his first year in office, president george w bush spent the most days on vacation. and presidents that you love to hate, like jimmy carter, spent some of the least time on vacation. so really...the facts aren't on your side on this issue. best not even bring it up
And yet again...the n00b brings to the table NOTHING...except cut and paste bullshit that's been repeated...like here without proof...by Media Matters...the Libtards at HuffPo...DU...Kos and by every rabid wild eyed Democratic Apparatchik in the MSM.
How about you try something fresh and new here kid...THINK FOR YOURSELF and quit trying to score brownie points with your Liberal lurking buddies by seeing how much oft repeated CRAP you can shove into one overwrought paragraph?
You sound like a robot. A Liberal See-N-Say.
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I like the cute little names you guys think up for people you hate, it's so adorable. Think one up for me, k?
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wow, according to people like you guys, nobody watches MSNBC and its completely irrelevant. Suddenly you're giving them a lot of power to single-handedly rename an entire political movement. I'm sure if you do the research, you'll realize the tea partiers originally called themselves tea baggers...until the media started making fun of them for it
Say how about taking a quick peep at this link and offer up your oponion on its validity as a conspiriscy theory held by many right wingers.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/8713
A Contrived Crisis? - You Decide
By Nancy Morgan Monday, February 23, 2009
Through a series of supposedly random but arguably deliberate chain of events, America is poised to jettison 220 years of a free market system called capitalism, in favor of the tried and failed system of socialism. This writer, and others, are now starting to question how we reached this point.
Last summer, as McCain and Obama were in the midst of their campaigns to capture the presidency, a series of events dramatically changed the focus of the campaign from Iraq to the economy. From that point on, Obama took the lead and eventually won the presidency.
June 26, 2008: Democrat Chuck Schumer leaked a memo questioning the solvency of IndyMac bank. This memo precipitated a run on IndyMac which led to its failure. Federal regulators pointedly cited U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., in explaining the bank’s failure. “The immediate cause of the closing was a deposit run that began and continued after the public release of a June 26 letter to the OTS and the FDIC from Senator Charles Schumer of New York.â€
This event, coupled with the Lehman Brothers collapse in September, marked the beginning of the current economic meltdown and provided the ammunition for massive government intervention in the private market.
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Never let a good crisis go to waste?
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Glenn Beck is a lunatic. You'd be hard pressed to find someone more conservative than my father, and even he hates glenn beck and thinks he's a lunatic. Also, anyone who attends a political protest is pretty much a lunatic. Political protests inherently draw on the fringe of political society. Sane, moderate people dont gather together to chant stupid slogans and wave stupid signs as if its somehow meaningful. They have better things to do.
Thats what they called THEMSELVES up until they realized it was already an existing term for a sexual act.
You think that's insulting? Wait till I get going. **** religion. Being nondenominational and/or an unbeliever is the American way.
Who cares what gifts he gives? Only you. Only people who love to complain about bullshit. He removed the bust of Churchill, A European and replaced it with a bust of Able Lincoln, an American. Do you people suddenly prefer European heros to American heros? news to me. Special relationship? It was George Washington who said "avoid foreign entanglements."
Personally, I think Winston Churchill was a great man and a great leader.
Nice dodge - you completely failed to address the points I mentioned - Obama is so wrapped up in himself that every time he opens his mouth -- even with TOTUS -- he insults people.
Here's a newsflash, genius -- I care what that asshole in the White Mosque does because he represents ME. Every time he insults a segment of our population or of our allies, it's as if I'M insulting them. I have a problem with that. Capiche?
And whether Glenn Beck is a lunatic or not is completely irrelevant to the point. And since when does the Constitutionally-guaranteed (First Amendment, no less) right to peaceably assemble a hallmark of lunatics? Are you ****ing insane? You've definitely been drinking the Kool-Aid. Maybe you'd better switch to scotch.
Here's an invitation when you get done with your shrieking on this thread - open a thread in the Fight Club on religion in America. ;D You'll have your ass handed to you faster than Rachel Madcow lusts after female flesh. ETA: Gotta have 50 posts first. Then you can see the forum.
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I like the cute little names you guys think up for people you hate, it's so adorable. Think one up for me, k?
Hate is such a strong term. "Comical" might be more accurate.
Besides the one you have suits you to a "t".
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I like the cute little names you guys think up for people you hate, it's so adorable. Think one up for me, k?
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How's that for starters?
For someone who came here claiming they wanted to learn...you've done nothing but try your hardest to get tossed out of here.
Keep it up and our pet name for you will be "Banned"
Which I think is honestly what you're trying for now. Let me guess you win the $$$$ bet over at HuffPo for having lasted longer here than anyone else thought you would?
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FIXED!!
He's the leader imposter of his party,
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How's that for starters?
For someone who came here claiming they wanted to learn...you've done nothing but try your hardest to get tossed out of here.
Keep it up and our pet name for you will be "Banned"
Which I think is honestly what you're trying for now. Let me guess you win the $$$$ bet over at HuffPo for having lasted longer here than anyone else thought you would?
what? I'm still being nice to you guys. We disagree on almost everything but I haven't once personally attacked or flamed anyone here. I have been flamed plenty though. I'm posting with a handicap here, give me a little credit.
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what? I'm still being nice to you guys. We disagree on almost everything but I haven't once personally attacked or flamed anyone here. I have been flamed plenty though. I'm posting with a handicap here, give me a little credit.
Quit with the "I'm innocent routine".
From your moronic email address to the lip synching of DNC talking points in just about every post...you've done nothing but insult us sine you got here.
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Nice dodge - you completely failed to address the points I mentioned - Obama is so wrapped up in himself that every time he opens his mouth -- even with TOTUS -- he insults people.
I can see how his political enemies would perceive Obama as arrogant. Personally, I think arrogance is a pre-requisite for running for the highest office in the land. If you don't think you're better than the rest, then what the **** are you doing running for president in the first place?
Here's a newsflash, genius -- I care what that asshole in the White Mosque does because he represents ME. Every time he insults a segment of our population or of our allies, it's as if I'M insulting them. I have a problem with that. Capiche?
Sure, I think you have some valid concerns here. Everything besides the part where you insinuate that Obama is a muslim.
And whether Glenn Beck is a lunatic or not is completely irrelevant to the point. And since when does the Constitutionally-guaranteed (First Amendment, no less) right to peaceably assemble a hallmark of lunatics? Are you ****ing insane? You've definitely been drinking the Kool-Aid. Maybe you'd better switch to scotch.
I didn't say that everyone who practices their right to peaceably assemble is a lunatic. I said that political protests, by their very nature, attract the political fringe of both parties. There are a lot of lunatics who attend these rallies/protests. This is a politically neutral statement.
Here's an invitation when you get done with your shrieking on this thread - open a thread in the Fight Club on religion in America. ;D You'll have your ass handed to you faster than Rachel Madcow lusts after female flesh. ETA: Gotta have 50 posts first. Then you can see the forum.
Shrieking? Madcow? When you guys think up these little names for liberals, it gets very hard for me to take you seriously. I dislike Sarah Palin, but you'll never see me call her anything other than Sarah Palin. That's because I have a very slight modicum of respect for her, just enough to not misspell her name.
From your moronic email address...
Jesus christ on a cross, will you forget about my email address? I didn't think anyone would even see it when I registered
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Glenn Beck is a lunatic. You'd be hard pressed to find someone more conservative than my father, and even he hates glenn beck and thinks he's a lunatic. Also, anyone who attends a political protest is pretty much a lunatic. Political protests inherently draw on the fringe of political society. Sane, moderate people dont gather together to chant stupid slogans and wave stupid signs as if its somehow meaningful. They have better things to do.
You ARE young, aren't you? Better go back and read about the protesters during Viet Nam....damn near every one of them was a Liberal! I also suggest you read up on your precious Bill Ayers - he STARTED the Weather Underground for the sole purpose of protesting the US military involvement in Viet Nam!! People he was living with died while building bombs to blow up US government buildings!! "Better things to do?" You don't have a clue about your precious Liberals and what they have done for decades do you? Something "better for YOU to do" would be to get some real education! In your case - your new mantra should be - "better to keep quiet, read and learn, than to type and prove to all how dumb you really are..."
You think that's insulting? Wait till I get going. **** religion. Being nondenominational and/or an unbeliever is the American way.
Being non-denominational/agnostic/atheist is the American way? Better change "dumb" to "stupid"....
You can "**** religion" all you want....just don't expect others to do so, just because you do. I would also caution you to rethink your attitude. There may come a day - when you/your spouse/child/parent are hurt, sick, broke, in dire straits - when you will be crying out for God to help you. When you have a child and that child is very ill or injured - not only will you want God's help for your child, you will want the prayers of the faithful to pray for your child. You WILL GIVE YOUR SOUL TO GOD FOR HIS HELP when you need it! Fortunately for you, He will be willing to give you His help.
Who cares what gifts he gives? Only you. Only people who love to complain about bullshit. He removed the bust of Churchill, A European and replaced it with a bust of Able Lincoln, an American. Do you people suddenly prefer European heros to American heros? news to me. Special relationship? It was George Washington who said "avoid foreign entanglements."
A gift from a leader of one country to the leader of another represents the esteem and respect of one country for the other country....whether the respect is real or feigned, it is a symbol. Giving back a gift is not only a sign of disrespect, it is also tells the giver (country) that the gift was not appreciated and meant nothing to the recipient (country). It is the epitome of publicly insulting the giver. YOU DO NOT INSULT YOUR ALLIES - World Diplomacy 101.
Personally, I think Winston Churchill was a great man and a great leader.
Congratulations....you are smarter than Obama. ::)
I like the cute little names you guys think up for people you hate, it's so adorable. Think one up for me, k?
People we hate? We hate you?
You have such an inflated ego and are so delusional.
We don't hate you!
You aren't worth the time or energy required to hate.
You are merely a plaything for the members here.....much like a dog enjoys a rawhide bone...though you are more like a stuffed animal that is rapidly being shredded.
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I didn't say that everyone who practices their right to peaceably assemble is a lunatic. I said that political protests, by their very nature, attract the political fringe of both parties. There are a lot of lunatics who attend these rallies/protests. This is a politically neutral statement.
Man, you really need to re-read your posts BEFORE you hit return. We're much smarter than that.
8/28 wasn't a "political" rally. Look what we have in the White Mosque. Would you consider him to be "middle of the road" leader?! Far, far, from it actually. And here you are talking about "political fringe". lol
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You ARE young, aren't you? Better go back and read about the protesters during Viet Nam....damn near every one of them was a Liberal!
what about going off into a foreign country to start a war, is that conservative?
I also suggest you read up on your precious Bill Ayers - he STARTED the Weather Underground for the sole purpose of protesting the US military involvement in Viet Nam!! People he was living with died while building bombs to blow up US government buildings!!
and aren't those the only people that died as a result of those bombings? Sounds like poetic justice to me.
"Better things to do?" You don't have a clue about your precious Liberals and what they have done for decades do you? Something "better for YOU to do" would be to get some real education! In your case - your new mantra should be - "better to keep quiet, read and learn, than to type and prove to all how dumb you really are..."
If i keep quiet, then how will I ever learn? I'm very glad for you all to share your opinions with me. I wish some of you would calm down though.
Being non-denominational/agnostic/atheist is the American way?
yes. I echo the sentiments of Benjamin Franklin.... "Lighthouses are more useful than churches." - Benjamin Franklin
Better change "dumb" to "stupid"....
oh, stop already...
You can "**** religion" all you want....just don't expect others to do so, just because you do. I would also caution you to rethink your attitude. There may come a day - when you/your spouse/child/parent are hurt, sick, broke, in dire straits - when you will be crying out for God to help you. When you have a child and that child is very ill or injured - not only will you want God's help for your child, you will want the prayers of the faithful to pray for your child. You WILL GIVE YOUR SOUL TO GOD FOR HIS HELP when you need it! Fortunately for you, He will be willing to give you His help.
How can I cry out for God to help me when I don't believe in God? How can I give my soul to anyone, when I don't believe there is such a thing as a soul? How can I want for people to pray for me, when I think prayer is one of the most useless things a person could do? Save your prayers. Don't waste your breath. Hail Satan. no, only kidding.
A gift from a leader of one country to the leader of another represents the esteem and respect of one country for the other country....whether the respect is real or feigned, it is a symbol. Giving back a gift is not only a sign of disrespect, it is also tells the giver (country) that the gift was not appreciated and meant nothing to the recipient (country). It is the epitome of publicly insulting the giver. YOU DO NOT INSULT YOUR ALLIES - World Diplomacy 101.
You have a point here, in all seriousness, I cannot excuse these actions.
Congratulations....you are smarter than Obama. ::)
nah. Not even close
People we hate? We hate you?
You have such an inflated ego and are so delusional.
We don't hate you!
Damn, could have fooled me. You may not hate me but it seems like a lot of people do. That TxRadioGuy definitely hates me.
You aren't worth the time or energy required to hate.
well, ouch. That's just hurtful.
You are merely a plaything for the members here.....much like a dog enjoys a rawhide bone...though you are more like a stuffed animal that is rapidly being shredded.
I'm completely unsurprised that you think you guys have been right about everything and I've been wrong about everything. I'll be VERY surprised as soon as at least one person here admits to being wrong, about anything, any one thing.
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what about going off into a foreign country to start a war, is that conservative?
Against a legitmate threat? Absolutely.
Liberals on the other hand coddle those who would bring violence to America, i.e. Code Pink, Sheehan, Reid, Murtha, Kerry, Harkin, Obama, etc etc etc
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what about going off into a foreign country to start a war, is that conservative?
Which Country do you speak of? Because if they harbored terrorists or supported terrorism, they were at war with the U.S.A.
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I'm completely unsurprised that you think you guys have been right about everything and I've been wrong about everything. I'll be VERY surprised as soon as at least one person here admits to being wrong, about anything, any one thing.
Here's a novel concept...how about you actually back up this crap you're spewing with some kind of proof or a link to back it up?
You now...like I've been doing to you since you got here.
Cause right now all you are doing is pulling stuff out of your ass and looking like a fool.
And starting this tantrum that you did above isn't helping things.
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tantrum? I'm completely calm. What specifically do you want me to back up with proof?
Seems to me like congress hasn't officially declared any war since World War II, and its a very liberal thing to wish to go off gallivanting into foreign countries with the pretense of making the world safe for democracy and whatnot. Sounds...Wilsonian. Wasn't Wilson a Democrat?
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tantrum? I'm completely calm. What specifically do you want me to back up with proof?
Oh FFS sake where do we begin?
Bush was an idiot. Obama bailing out the banks was a GOOD thing. The rich aren't paying their fair share.
Sarah Palin is dumb. Federalists are Socialists. There is a list long enough of complete and utter bullshit that you've spewed since you got here without anything to back it up that if I listed it all...I'd be here till it was dark bak in the States where you are at.
Seems to me like congress hasn't officially declared any war since World War II, and its a very liberal thing to wish to go off gallivanting into foreign countries with the pretense of making the world safe for democracy and whatnot. Sounds...Wilsonian. Wasn't Wilson a Democrat?
What part of the oath of office that President shall "defend the country from all enemies foreign and domestic" confuses you?
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How can I cry out for God to help me when I don't believe in God? How can I give my soul to anyone, when I don't believe there is such a thing as a soul? How can I want for people to pray for me, when I think prayer is one of the most useless things a person could do? Save your prayers. Don't waste your breath. Hail Satan. no, only kidding.
When/if you have a child - you will do anything to help that child - even look for God's help.
nah. Not even close
You should have taken the compliment - such as it was.
Damn, could have fooled me. You may not hate me but it seems like a lot of people do. That TxRadioGuy definitely hates me.
No, Tx doesn't hate you. He, definitely doesn't have the time or energy to hate YOU. He's too busy over in Afghanistan trying to help keep your sorry ass safe over here. He's one of those guys who fights for the right for you to be stupid. You might want to pay more attention to what he's trying to teach you. He's willing to spend a considerable amount of time trying to educate you - you would do well to pay attention.
well, ouch. That's just hurtful.
yep, truth is known to be hurtful.
I'm completely unsurprised that you think you guys have been right about everything and I've been wrong about everything. I'll be VERY surprised as soon as at least one person here admits to being wrong, about anything, any one thing.
I thought that maybe Obama wouldn't be such a bad president....certainly better than Hillary. I was willing to give him a chance. I thought because he was of mixed heritage that maybe he really could be a "uniter".
I was wrong.
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tantrum? I'm completely calm. What specifically do you want me to back up with proof?
Seems to me like congress hasn't officially declared any war since World War II, and its a very liberal thing to wish to go off gallivanting into foreign countries with the pretense of making the world safe for democracy and whatnot. Sounds...Wilsonian. Wasn't Wilson a Democrat?
There's no such requirement in the COTUS. The president is CinC. Congress is the only one who can declare war but that doesn't mean the president is unable to issue orders to the troops. A DoW allows a president to bypass many matters ordinarily reserved exclusively to the legislature and judiciary.
The very nature of the statement is absurd on its face as non-state actors and internal insurgencies have been a threat since all of human history. You cannot declare war against a non-state or an insurgency as it is not a state power. The founders were well aware of this fact yet they had every expectation of federal troops being used to repel such threats.
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Oh FFS sake where do we begin?
Bush was an idiot
That's a good place to begin. Championing Patriot Act, TARP, and starting two wars without any way of paying for them....your own political philosophy seems to indicate that this is idiocy.
Now I'll fold my hands neatly and wait patiently for you to say "Wow, RZZZA. You are right. I was wrong. " Won't hold my breath.
When/if you have a child - you will do anything to help that child - even look for God's help.
again, I don't believe in God. I'm just as likely to pray to the cookie monster or Joe Pesci for help. At least those two are actually real things that I know exist.
You should have taken the compliment - such as it was.
why should I take your backhanded "compliments"?
No, Tx doesn't hate you. He, definitely doesn't have the time or energy to hate YOU. He's too busy over in Afghanistan trying to help keep your sorry ass safe over here.
I never asked him to. I'd rather he not, as long as you're claiming that he's doing something for me, I'd rather he not.
He's one of those guys who fights for the right for you to be stupid.
Right...Because if it wasn't for TxRadioGuy, Afghani tribesmen would be at my door, waving AK-47's in my face, and demanding I convert to Islam or be beheaded. If I was living in Afghanistan, I would certainly need his protection and sacrifice, but I don't. I live in the midwest. If Afghanistan had some standing army, and they were on the verge of landing on the East coast and invading the United States, I would be very thankful that people like TxRadioGuy were standing between me and them. But as it is, I don't feel any threat from Afghanis regardless if TxRadioGuy is over there or not.
You might want to pay more attention to what he's trying to teach you. He's willing to spend a considerable amount of time trying to educate you - you would do well to pay attention.
I'm paying attention
I thought that maybe Obama wouldn't be such a bad president....certainly better than Hillary. I was willing to give him a chance. I thought because he was of mixed heritage that maybe he really could be a "uniter".
I was wrong.
Funny
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That's a good place to begin. Championing Patriot Act, TARP, and starting two wars without any way of paying for them....your own political philosophy seems to indicate that this is idiocy.
TARP was idiocy.
We can pay for national defense if we cut out all the vote buying schemes cloaked as welfare.
National defense is a mandate. Propping up teacher's unions so they can use their taxpayer funded salaries to support politicians? Not so much.
Right...Because if it wasn't for TxRadioGuy, Afghani tribesmen would be at my door, waving AK-47's in my face, and demanding I convert to Islam or be beheaded. If I was living in Afghanistan, I would certainly need his protection and sacrifice, but I don't. I live in the midwest. If Afghanistan had some standing army, and they were on the verge of landing on the East coast and invading the United States, I would be very thankful that people like TxRadioGuy were standing between me and them. But as it is, I don't feel any threat from Afghanis regardless if TxRadioGuy is over there or not.
No, they'd be hiding a group of people who would send 20 assholes to kill 3,000 of your countrymen.
We know you hate America but why do liberals so blithely throw away the lives of innocent Americans?
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That's a good place to begin. Championing Patriot Act, TARP, and starting two wars without any way of paying for them....your own political philosophy seems to indicate that this is idiocy.
Ok first of all he didn't "champion" the PATRIOT Act. He merely signed it into law and resigned it when it was extended in 2006.
If you'd like to see who really championed it...take a look at the 98 senators and 369 members of the House that voted FOR it.
Ok genius...what exactly were we supposed to do after we got attacked on 9/11? Say thank you and walk away?
Or are you one of those really stupid Libs that think we brought that attack on ourselves.
You bitch and moan about paying for the wars...the cost of what Obama has done to this country in 21 months has cost MORE than the combined cost of BOTH wars over the last 10 years.
TARP...bad idea. Made worse by greedy Dems who saw it as an opportunity to make a big grab of power.
Now I'll fold my hands neatly and wait patiently for you to say "Wow, RZZZA. You are right. I was wrong. " Won't hold my breath.
Turn blue and pass out kid. You aren't right. You haven't been since you showed up. You're long on snarky...lip synched one liners and short on anything that resembles substance in what you're saying.
again, I don't believe in God. I'm just as likely to pray to the cookie monster or Joe Pesci for help. At least those two are actually real things that I know exist.
Feel sorry for you when you find out that yes...God DOES exist.
I never asked him to. I'd rather he not, as long as you're claiming that he's doing something for me, I'd rather he not.
EADC
Right...Because if it wasn't for TxRadioGuy, Afghani tribesmen would be at my door, waving AK-47's in my face, and demanding I convert to Islam or be beheaded. If I was living in Afghanistan, I would certainly need his protection and sacrifice, but I don't. I live in the midwest. If Afghanistan had some standing army, and they were on the verge of landing on the East coast and invading the United States, I would be very thankful that people like TxRadioGuy were standing between me and them. But as it is, I don't feel any threat from Afghanis regardless if TxRadioGuy is over there or not.
Kid you're about to get what you are aiming for. Me pissed off. You're an ungrateful little sonofabitch.
Just one question for you.
Why are you so goddammed stupid?
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I can see how his political enemies would perceive Obama as arrogant. Personally, I think arrogance is a pre-requisite for running for the highest office in the land. If you don't think you're better than the rest, then what the **** are you doing running for president in the first place?
Damn. You really are a moron, aren't you? Here's another news flash, kid. Pay attention, because I'm only going to say this once - POLITICIANS DON'T STAY POLITICIANS VERY LONG BY PORTRAYING THEMSELVES AS ARROGANT - EVEN IF THEY ARE. It's a game they play - pretend to be concerned a la the Clenis, but be thinking of themselves and their problems at the same time. Don't believe me? Political Science 101. Take the course sometime.
Sure, I think you have some valid concerns here. Everything besides the part where you insinuate that Obama is a muslim.
Insinuate, my ass. I'll flat out tell you that he's either Muslim or a nonbeliever. (you can't be both.) Everybody knows that when he attended Rev. Wright's Church of the Apoplectic Negro that he was making an appearance - nothing more. As a "community organizer" ( ;D) he had to show the community that he was - now get ready for this - "one of them". ROFLMAO.
I didn't say that everyone who practices their right to peaceably assemble is a lunatic. I said that political protests, by their very nature, attract the political fringe of both parties. There are a lot of lunatics who attend these rallies/protests. This is a politically neutral statement.
In point of fact, you called Glenn Beck a lunatic. Then, here are your words, verbatim:
Also, anyone who attends a political protest is pretty much a lunatic. Political protests inherently draw on the fringe of political society. Sane, moderate people dont gather together to chant stupid slogans and wave stupid signs as if its somehow meaningful. They have better things to do.
Do you want to continue to deny that you called those who peaceably assemble lunatics? There it is, in black and, well, blue. You're so busy trying to defend your petty little stances that you forget what you've said. That's okay - I'll keep you straight. ;D
Shrieking? Madcow? When you guys think up these little names for liberals, it gets very hard for me to take you seriously. I dislike Sarah Palin, but you'll never see me call her anything other than Sarah Palin. That's because I have a very slight modicum of respect for her, just enough to not misspell her name.
Sarah Palin deserves respect because of what she's accomplished due to her wit, her political savvy, and her relentless and unabashed love for this country. Rachel Madcow? Not so much.
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again, I don't believe in God. I'm just as likely to pray to the cookie monster or Joe Pesci for help. At least those two are actually real things that I know exist. (Of course you don't. Your "god" are your drugs/your gheys/your anti-American scum. You know, typical liberalism.)
I never asked him to. I'd rather he not, as long as you're claiming that he's doing something for me, I'd rather he not. (Yeah, see how long you would last with a take-over of the people with that "religion of peace". You ungrateful skrunt. Typical liberal scum.)
Right...Because if it wasn't for TxRadioGuy, Afghani tribesmen would be at my door, waving AK-47's in my face, and demanding I convert to Islam or be beheaded. If I was living in Afghanistan, I would certainly need his protection and sacrifice, but I don't. I live in the midwest. If Afghanistan had some standing army, and they were on the verge of landing on the East coast and invading the United States, I would be very thankful that people like TxRadioGuy were standing between me and them. But as it is, I don't feel any threat from Afghanis regardless if TxRadioGuy is over there or not. (Do you watch the news at all?! Ever see what happened on 9/11? The Christmas Day bomber? The Times Square bomber? You think those Islamic terrorists made sure there weren't any liberals around before the planned attacks?! You stupid ****in' liberals/DUmmies that hate the military/Pentagon.)
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Right...Because if it wasn't for TxRadioGuy, Afghani tribesmen would be at my door, waving AK-47's in my face, and demanding I convert to Islam or be beheaded.
Actually that is exactly what would happen. For some reason 9/11 and the subsequent attacks after that wasn't the wake up call for you basement dwelling Libtards that it was for the rest of the country and a LOT of the world.
You instead chose to cheerlead for the terrorists...blame America for fanatical terorism in other parts of the world and celebrate when those of us in uniform get killed.
But let me tell you...from actually having been in not only Afghanistan but Iraq as well...what you so mockingly describe is exactly what a large percentage of the Muslim population would like to see happen to "The Great Satan".
Come over here and see for yourself exactly how the terrorists think and what they have planed for us were we not kere kicking their ass. You wouldn't be so glib in your assessment of your safety up there in Illinois.
Ignoring it or pulling out of Afghanistan...Iraq...the Phillipines...and the other places that we are engaged with these thugs that no one knows about will make them go away or stop hating us.
It will only encourage them to keep trying.
If I was living in Afghanistan, I would certainly need his protection and sacrifice, but I don't. I live in the midwest.
Right. Who exactly do you think has put their ass on the line starting waaaaaaaay back before you or I were born to ensure that you get to live all comfy and safe in some 'Burb north of Chicago?
If Afghanistan had some standing army, and they were on the verge of landing on the East coast and invading the United States, I would be very thankful that people like TxRadioGuy were standing between me and them. But as it is, I don't feel any threat from Afghanis regardless if TxRadioGuy is over there or not.
First off...Afghanistan DOES have a standing Army you obtuse dolt. Because we are here...what passed for the "standing Army" in this country prior to 2001...you know them as al-Qaeda wasn't able to successfully pull off anymore 9/11 style attacks.
Informationw e get from being here...in Iraq and otehr places is what allows us to thwart attempts to send explosives in toner cartridges and stop thosands of attacks every year that you and I will never know about.
But you go ahead and keep repeating the asinine claim that you don't need us here or anywhere else where we are currently engaged to keep you safe.
You should be thankful to the men and women in the military today regardless. Because of the 1% of us that volunteer...then continue to re-enlist and serve..your sorry unappreciative ass doesn't have to serve. You get to sit back and rah rah with the folks that claim we need a draft again to end the war...backslap the people who hold up signs calling us babykillers and saying they'd support us if we shot our officers. Because you have ZERO knowledge or comcept of the military and don't have any desire to.
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Glenn Beck is a lunatic. You'd be hard pressed to find someone more conservative than my father, and even he hates glenn beck and thinks he's a lunatic. Also, anyone who attends a political protest is pretty much a lunatic. Political protests inherently draw on the fringe of political society. Sane, moderate people dont gather together to chant stupid slogans and wave stupid signs as if its somehow meaningful. They have better things to do.
I don't care much for Beck at times, either. However, he is re-teaching true American history to the people. You know, stuff that has been eliminated from the history books over time. He's pretty much right on, MOST of the time with the rest of his news analysis. Is he "sappy"?? hell yeah.
Thats what they called THEMSELVES up until they realized it was already an existing term for a sexual act.
Ummmm, NO, that's NOT. That term was originated from that bimbo whore Janeane Garafolo and it was used specifically to be derogatory.
You think that's insulting? Wait till I get going. **** religion. Being nondenominational and/or an unbeliever is the American way.
Ask anybody that's been to war. There are NO atheists in a foxhole!!
Who cares what gifts he gives? Only you. Only people who love to complain about bullshit. He removed the bust of Churchill, A European and replaced it with a bust of Able Lincoln, an American. Do you people suddenly prefer European heros to American heros? news to me. Special relationship? It was George Washington who said "avoid foreign entanglements."
Personally, I think Winston Churchill was a great man and a great leader.
I care what gifts our leader gives because the ones he gave were insulting. He is a representative of our Nation and its people.
I think we both agree that Churchill was a great leader.
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Right...Because if it wasn't for TxRadioGuy, Afghani tribesmen would be at my door, waving AK-47's in my face, and demanding I convert to Islam or be beheaded. If I was living in Afghanistan, I would certainly need his protection and sacrifice, but I don't. I live in the midwest. If Afghanistan had some standing army, and they were on the verge of landing on the East coast and invading the United States, I would be very thankful that people like TxRadioGuy were standing between me and them. But as it is, I don't feel any threat from Afghanis regardless if TxRadioGuy is over there or not.
You ignorant, wet mouthed, sniveling prig!
Do you have the first clue about the veteran you just denigrated? Do you have any clue how much you have insulted the rest of the veterans on this board?
Let me save both of us some time: No, you don't.
You are a willfully ignorant, mewling child that has no idea of the world past your ipod and American Idol. You like to think you know something but you truly don't. Insulting those that live American policy at the tip of the spear is stupidity at the highest level.
Why do you think you are safe in your midwest home? Why do you think it is that we have not had a significant loss of life due to islamokazie attacks since 2001?
Huh, boy?
It is because of people like TXRadioGuy, Mr Snuggle Bunny, Dumbass Tanker, Airwolf, wasp69, Eupher, Thor, NHSparky, Ree, my oldest son, and many others (my apologies to the many that I didn't include) that you live with a smug attitude of security. Those that put their asses on the line and took the fight to the jihadis instead of allowing them to come here and bring it to us. Again.
In other words, your betters.
People who you have no hope (in your current state) of being able to come anywhere near reaching the standards they set in front of you.
I have news for you, sweetheart, we were attacked and over 3000 of your countrymen lost their lives. War was brought to this country by non-state actors supported by a rogue government, not a standing army. You know, the same kind of scenarios you play on your X box. We are living the real "Modern Warfare".
If you were paying attention these past 9 years, history student, you would know what their goals are and how they intend to carry them out. People like the above mentioned are the only things standing between you and those who want you in chains.
Do you think for one second, child, these monsters don't want you cowering in your midwest home? Do you think for one second, child, that they don't want you dead? You're an infidel and a Godless infidel at that. That makes you lower than any Christian or Jew. That puts you at the front of the line for getting your head chopped off.
Wake up, boy, and ditch that stupid attitude of yours. You're a kid, you don't know shit from shit, and pull up your pants!
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Bump this ass crumb to 50 posts.
Don't make us wade through another 15 posts of his drivel.
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Bump this ass crumb to 50 posts.
Don't make us wade through another 15 posts of his drivel.
Meh, why worry about that. This is an ignorant kid that wants to remain ignorant.
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lol, i really struck a nerve didn't I? Now who's crying. Relax, if you defend my right to having an opinion then you should be able to handle it when I share it. You can handle fighting in the military but you can't handle dissenting opinion in your little conservative concave?
We'll always be vulnerable to small bands of terrorists, we don't need a large unwieldy army in foreign countries to protect us from that, we need better airport/port security.
When the military accidentally kills innocent civilians (don't tell me it doesn't happen), don't you think that creates about as many terrorists as it destroys?
The enemy we're fighting now has no standing army, no planes, no tanks, no any real way to threaten our sovereignty. All they can do is try to hijack planes and build ghetto-ass bombs to try and scare us into paranoia, cow-tow us to fear, and force our hand...just as Bin Laden did when he forced us to invade two countries with no way to pay for it. Americans...so stupid, so easily misled.
Let me know when a scary muslim army has gathered planes, boats and tanks to invade our coasts, I'll pick up a gun and join the military then.
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lol, i really struck a nerve didn't I? Now who's crying. Relax, if you defend my right to having an opinion then you should be able to handle it when I share it. You can handle fighting in the military but you can't handle dissenting opinion in your little conservative concave?
Right because I'm supposed to let some twinkle toed spineless little POS who doesn't have the balls to do what I do just mock my service? I'm just supposed to take it?
We'll always be vulnerable to small bands of terrorists, we don't need a large unwieldy army in foreign countries to protect us from that, we need better airport/port security.
So frisking grandma and 12 y/o boys while people in turbans and named Mohammed walk right through is better for us than a military? YOur kind of backwards ass thinking is what brought us 9/11 in the first place.
When the military accidentally kills innocent civilians (don't tell me it doesn't happen), don't you think that creates about as many terrorists as it destroys?
Nope. It doesn't. But hey what do I know...I'm just over here in the middle of it right? You and those pointy headed asshats at HuffPo are WAY better at figuring out how to combat terrorism from the safety of your basement.
:whatever:
Americans...so stupid, so easily misled.
You were looking in the mirror when you typed that weren't you?
Let me know when a scary muslim army has gathered planes, boats and tanks to invade our coasts, I'll pick up a gun and join the military then.
They are called the Islamic Republic of Iran. Wold you like me to send you a link on Google Maps to the nearest Marine Corps or Army recruiting station?
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You ignorant, wet mouthed, sniveling prig!
Do you have the first clue about the veteran you just denigrated? Do you have any clue how much you have insulted the rest of the veterans on this board?
Let me save both of us some time: No, you don't.
You are a willfully ignorant, mewling child that has no idea of the world past your ipod and American Idol. You like to think you know something but you truly don't. Insulting those that live American policy at the tip of the spear is stupidity at the highest level.
Why do you think you are safe in your midwest home? Why do you think it is that we have not had a significant loss of life due to islamokazie attacks since 2001?
Huh, boy?
It is because of people like TXRadioGuy, Mr Snuggle Bunny, Dumbass Tanker, Airwolf, wasp69, Eupher, Thor, NHSparky, Ree, my oldest son, and many others (my apologies to the many that I didn't include) that you live with a smug attitude of security. Those that put their asses on the line and took the fight to the jihadis instead of allowing them to come here and bring it to us. Again.
In other words, your betters.
People who you have no hope (in your current state) of being able to come anywhere near reaching the standards they set in front of you.
I have news for you, sweetheart, we were attacked and over 3000 of your countrymen lost their lives. War was brought to this country by non-state actors supported by a rogue government, not a standing army. You know, the same kind of scenarios you play on your X box. We are living the real "Modern Warfare".
If you were paying attention these past 9 years, history student, you would know what their goals are and how they intend to carry them out. People like the above mentioned are the only things standing between you and those who want you in chains.
Do you think for one second, child, these monsters don't want you cowering in your midwest home? Do you think for one second, child, that they don't want you dead? You're an infidel and a Godless infidel at that. That makes you lower than any Christian or Jew. That puts you at the front of the line for getting your head chopped off.
Wake up, boy, and ditch that stupid attitude of yours. You're a kid, you don't know shit from shit, and pull up your pants!
Thanks for saying all that ^ much better than what I could get out of my head this morning. I appreciate it.
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lol, i really struck a nerve didn't I? Now who's crying. Relax, if you defend my right to having an opinion then you should be able to handle it when I share it. You can handle fighting in the military but you can't handle dissenting opinion in your little conservative concave?
The only nerve you "struck" was the one that has irretrievably painted you as a spineless little keyboard commando who doesn't have the balls and the nerve to ruck up and SERVE this nation. No, you little boy, you'd rather run your very large mouth.
We'll always be vulnerable to small bands of terrorists, we don't need a large unwieldy army in foreign countries to protect us from that, we need better airport/port security.
And your skills and qualifications to make such pontifical statements are?
When the military accidentally kills innocent civilians (don't tell me it doesn't happen), don't you think that creates about as many terrorists as it destroys?
Terrorists understand POWER and WILLINGNESS TO FIGHT. Collateral damage is nothing more than a pretense to get spineless little surrender monkeys like you to throw your hands up, bend over, and wait for the inevitable raping. If you're lucky, they'll stop there. If not, they'll cut your worthless head off.
When you understand that the institution of Islam creates terrorists simply by virtue of the "religion" itself, then you can begin to understand the threat. Until then, you're just yapping. Suggest you stop your yapping and start listening.
The enemy we're fighting now has no standing army, no planes, no tanks, no any real way to threaten our sovereignty. All they can do is try to hijack planes and build ghetto-ass bombs to try and scare us into paranoia, cow-tow us to fear, and force our hand...just as Bin Laden did when he forced us to invade two countries with no way to pay for it. Americans...so stupid, so easily misled.
Looks like OBL's techniques are working pretty well on you. Surrender monkeys like you want to retreat into your Mommy's basement and depend on guys like TRG to snuff the bad guy. Here's a news flash, genius - they're coming for you too.
Let me know when a scary muslim army has gathered planes, boats and tanks to invade our coasts, I'll pick up a gun and join the military then.
Shall we also let you know when that "scary muslim" and his cell has targeted your home and your way of life? Another news flash, genius - he already has. You're too blind in your liberalism to see it.
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lol, i really struck a nerve didn't I? Now who's crying. Relax, if you defend my right to having an opinion when you should be able to handle it when I share it. You can handle fighting in the military but you can't handle dissenting opinion in your little conservative concave?
Your "rights" do not extend that far on this board. Disparaging the service of active and veteran military is a violation of the terms you agreed to when you signed up to post here.
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RZZZA you've lied to us. You appeared here the day after the election claiming you wanted to learn. You said you wanted to understand Conservatives and why we believe what we do. You also claimed to be a history buff.
You lied.
Since then you've done exactly the polar opposite of what you said. You've done nothing but lip synched tired old canards and outright falsehoods from your Libtard brethren from the MSM and various Liberal hate sites. you've mocked Conservative leaders and former Republican Presidents called conservative talk show hosts and members of the Tea Party Patriots lunatics.
You equated the Federalists...the Founding Fathers of our nation of being Socialists and specifically you falsely accused George Washington and Alexander hamilton of supporting socialism.
And you did this all without a scintilla of evidence or one credible link to back up the blatant lies you were telling. This despite repeated demands for even the most basic of evidence to support your wild accusations.
As if that weren't bad enough you then went WAY over your head in the intelligence pool by giving us a bunch of bullshit about our over reaction to terrorism...why we are wrong to have gone to Iraq and Afghanistan and for the cherry on top...you proceeded to not only insult MY service in the military...but that of about a half dozen other members at the same time who have stepped up and answered the nations call to serve at some point in their adult life. Which I might add is a direct violation of the TOS of this website that you agreed to when you signed up.
So that leaves me to wonder...it has me wanting to know just one thing from you.
Why are you so ******* stupid? Think about this and choose your answer wisely.
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lol, i really struck a nerve didn't I? Now who's crying.
Crying? I don't cry, boy, I leave that to you liberal metrosexuals.
Relax, if you defend my right to having an opinion then you should be able to handle it when I share it. You can handle fighting in the military but you can't handle dissenting opinion in your little conservative concave?
Handling a dissenting opinion is not a problem. You were chugging along just fine until you decided to be a typical liberal kid. We all have our hot buttons and mine just happens to be snot nosed liberal children, who strut around thinking they are smarter than everyone else in the room, deciding to take a swipe at the service of a honorable veteran.
We'll always be vulnerable to small bands of terrorists, we don't need a large unwieldy army in foreign countries to protect us from that, we need better airport/port security.
Oh, you mean fight a more sensitive war against terror?
:whatever:
If that is your great plan, be prepared to have lots of EMS people on standby to respond to the constant bombings and acts of terror.
When the military accidentally kills innocent civilians (don't tell me it doesn't happen), don't you think that creates about as many terrorists as it destroys?
Woefully ignorant....
What do you think created the terrorists to begin with?
And, what do you think persuaded the tribal leaders in Iraq to cooperate with the American Forces (think Fallujah)?
Hopefully, if you get this right, you will have answered your own question.
The enemy we're fighting now has no standing army, no planes, no tanks, no any real way to threaten our sovereignty.
Really? Then what was the purpose of flying planes into the Twin Towers, the Pentagon, and the Capitol Building?
Hmmmmm?
C'mon, sooper genius, this one ought to be easy for such a great "student of history".
All they can do is try to hijack planes and build ghetto-ass bombs to try and scare us into paranoia, cow-tow us to fear, and force our hand
And our response should be? Do you even know what "terrorism" is?
...just as Bin Laden did when he forced us to invade two countries with no way to pay for it.
Please, do tell me what bin laden's true goal was.
And this stupid "no way to pay for it" shit.... Did we somewhere along the line stop collecting taxes?
Americans...so stupid, so easily misled.
Liberals... So ignorant and (thank God) now so utterly irrelevant.
Let me know when a scary muslim army has gathered planes, boats and tanks to invade our coasts, I'll pick up a gun and join the military then.
War was brought to your shores, boy.
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By an enemy who wants you dead.
Not defeated, dead.
If you are not dead, they want you cowering in fear of them.
Trust me on this, kid, they are monsters who will not stop unless we defeat them.
If you are unwilling to man up today and do something about it, you never will.
If you are too much of a coward to take a stand now, then don't be surprised when war is brought to your city.
And it is war, boy, make no mistake. Just because you don't think it is doesn't mean they don't think it is.
And they are counting on you to be weak.
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I've not really paid too much attention to you, as I saw you are simply another leftist spitting out talking points- irony is, you claim that of us. We do. I won't disagree that the right side has their fine share of problems, but most of my values line up on that side, and not the left. However- I shall reply to your post. My words will be in red so you can see them better.
lol, i really struck a nerve didn't I? Now who's crying. Relax, if you defend my right to having an opinion then you should be able to handle it when I share it. You can handle fighting in the military but you can't handle dissenting opinion in your little conservative concave?
Not directed to me so I don't really give a shit. Irnoy is, I spent my entire life defending your right to have an opinion. I may not agree with your opinion, and I will voice it when I feel I want to. YOU should be able to handle that. Pitty DU doesn't agree with that simple principle.
We'll always be vulnerable to small bands of terrorists, we don't need a large unwieldy army in foreign countries to protect us from that, we need better airport/port security.
What is to stop us form doing that? Oh, yeah...people's rights. As to your theory that we don't need a 'big unwealdy army in foriegn countries to protect us, Yes we do. It is far better to stomp out the terror away from our shores so we don't have shit blowing up in downtown bum****, Ohio every Friday. Sort of like they do in Pakistan. Also, for Imperialists, we sure do suck at imposing our will on other people. I suggest you look at the US State of Japan or Germany, or Iraq, if you disagree.
When the military accidentally kills innocent civilians (don't tell me it doesn't happen), don't you think that creates about as many terrorists as it destroys?
The enemy we're fighting now has no standing army, no planes, no tanks, no any real way to threaten our sovereignty. All they can do is try to hijack planes and build ghetto-ass bombs to try and scare us into paranoia, cow-tow us to fear, and force our hand...just as Bin Laden did when he forced us to invade two countries with no way to pay for it. Americans...so stupid, so easily misled.
The enemy you are talking about ran a country (Afghanistan) until we forced them out. The run most of Northern Pakistan. Iran. Sudan. Somolia. Yemen. Iraq? Yeah. Iraq was assisting anyone who would **** with the US. Check out the log reports from Northern and Southern Watch during the 90s to see how a State did all it could to threaten our sovereignty. Look at England or France for what could be coming to the US. I haven't even mentiuoned Russia, China, or N. Korea.
Let me know when a scary muslim army has gathered planes, boats and tanks to invade our coasts, I'll pick up a gun and join the military then.
The point is lost to you that once the 'scary muslim men' get to our coasts, we've already lost the war.
You came in here with a willingness to discuss and learn. You were recieved with hostility because we've seen, time and time again, NO leftist comes in here wanting to listen and talk. They want to tell us what is 'right'. When they don't get their way, they rapidly turn to shouting and throwing things like the children they are.
I am growing more and more certain that soon your kind will have to be removed, completely, from the society if we are to survive. You don't want the USA as most of us in this country want it. You will not be happy (ever) unless this turns into a copy of the Soviet Union. You won't be happy then either- but at least you will feel like you are getting somewhere.
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RZZZA are you going to keep luring in this thread like a scared little girl or are you going to man up and answer the question I posed to you?
There is a time limit on this.
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Do you have the first clue about the veteran you just denigrated? Do you have any clue how much you have insulted the rest of the veterans on this board?
My intent was not to insult any of you, If I have done that then I apologize. I'm just questioning your opinions and disagreeing with you, that's all I'm doing. If my aim was really to insult you I would say stuff like this:
You ignorant, wet mouthed, sniveling prig!
twinkle toed spineless little POS
you obtuse dolt.
You ungrateful skrunt. Typical liberal scum
Why are you so goddammed stupid
That's just from the last page and a half. Please find one quote of me flaming you guys or personally insulting you.
Any insult you perceive from me WAS NOT intentional on my part. What you're insulted by is my ignorance and naivete. You could handle it better.
The only nerve you "struck" was the one that has irretrievably painted you as a spineless little keyboard commando who doesn't have the balls and the nerve to ruck up and SERVE this nation. No, you little boy, you'd rather run your very large mouth.
I thought only 1% of Americans serve in the military? If that figure is accurate then, according to you, 99% of Americans are spineless cowards. Should 99% of us refrain from having an opinion on geo politics? Not every person is cut out for a life in the military, especially so when they disagree with the mission(s) in the first place.
Terrorists understand POWER and WILLINGNESS TO FIGHT. Collateral damage is nothing more than a pretense to get spineless little surrender monkeys like you to throw your hands up, bend over, and wait for the inevitable raping. If you're lucky, they'll stop there. If not, they'll cut your worthless head off.
When you understand that the institution of Islam creates terrorists simply by virtue of the "religion" itself, then you can begin to understand the threat. Until then, you're just yapping. Suggest you stop your yapping and start listening.
It sounds to me like you want to kill every muslim in the world, do I understand you correctly?
Looks like OBL's techniques are working pretty well on you. Surrender monkeys like you want to retreat into your Mommy's basement and depend on guys like TRG to snuff the bad guy. Here's a news flash, genius - they're coming for you too.
Are they? I don't see "them" capable of invading any part of the united states, but on the contrary, we've invaded 1 sovereign country and one semi-sovereign country so far. Sending small bands of terrorists to hijack planes or carry bombs is not the same thing as threatening our sovereignty or invading our country.
Shall we also let you know when that "scary muslim" and his cell has targeted your home and your way of life? Another news flash, genius - he already has. You're too blind in your liberalism to see it.
I see it. There's no question that we were attacked. I just disagree with our response to those attacks, I think it was disproportionate and not the best way to handle the situation. I'm perfectly willing to live my life accepting the fact that I MAY be the victim of a foreign terrorist attack, I don't see the threat posed to me great enough to justify our disproportionate response. I'm more afraid of getting into a car accident or being the victim of a mugging than I am of foreign terrorists.
Your "rights" do not extend that far on this board. Disparaging the service of active and veteran military is a violation of the terms you agreed to when you signed up to post here.
Again, I don't think I've denigrated or disparaged anyone. If you've been insulted by me, I'm sorry, that was not my intent.
So frisking grandma and 12 y/o boys while people in turbans and named Mohammed walk right through is better for us than a military?
I think you'd agree that more effective security at airports and at our ports would stop a lot of these terrorist threats. As would more effective police work. Invading countries with giant armies isn't the only way of protecting ourselves. It may even be counter-productive.
YOur kind of backwards ass thinking is what brought us 9/11 in the first place.
Right. 9/11 was all my fault. What an unfair statement.
Nope. It doesn't.
really? So invading Iraq, Afghanistan, being in the process of invading Pakistan and...as you insinuated, fighting a war with Iran...disenfranchising, displacing and killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people...in NO way creates any terrorists? All because a small band of terrorists killed 3,000 of our citizens? That doesn't seem like a disproportionate response to you?
But hey what do I know...I'm just over here in the middle of it right? You and those pointy headed asshats at HuffPo are WAY better at figuring out how to combat terrorism from the safety of your basement.
If I'm too far away from it to know what's going on, maybe (and don't be insulted by this)...maybe you're too close to it. Maybe you can't see the forest for the trees. Being a college student, I've spoken to a lot of veterans and when I ask how we're doing over there, not one of them has said "GREAT! We're winning! Things are going great.". Don't you find that a little troubling?
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Right...Because if it wasn't for TxRadioGuy, Afghani tribesmen would be at my door, waving AK-47's in my face, and demanding I convert to Islam or be beheaded. If I was living in Afghanistan, I would certainly need his protection and sacrifice, but I don't. I live in the midwest. If Afghanistan had some standing army, and they were on the verge of landing on the East coast and invading the United States, I would be very thankful that people like TxRadioGuy were standing between me and them. But as it is, I don't feel any threat from Afghanis regardless if TxRadioGuy is over there or not.
Nahh. Tex is a ****ing jounalist. I and my kind are the killers. See the problem with your world view is you want it only to prove the shit you think is right. One World! Peace! Love and Understanding!
Yeha, sounds great. Really. If I thought there was a chance that it would work I'd sign the **** up. BUT- and there is always one, there are a lot of scary dudes who don't think that shit, and they really don't care if you do. Some of them believe in a God and they will do anything to convert everyone to that belief. Some just want power and money.
In many places in the world life isn't worth the cost of a dinner. There are places in the US that are the same. I would much rather partol downtown N. O. and kill ****ing drug dealers than hump the Hindu Kush hunting Taliban and AQ. But hey, it's a job.
MY job is to make sure you worthless leftist cocksuckers can jack off to Das Kapital and wave signs around on the street corners. Yeah, bring me home and I would much rather stomp your ugly ass than talk to you. BUT- my job is to make sure you are that gawddam stupid.
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My intent was not to insult any of you, If I have done that then I apologize. I'm just questioning your opinions and disagreeing with you, that's all I'm doing. If my aim was really to insult you I would say stuff like this:
That's just from the last page and a half. Please find one quote of me flaming you guys or personally insulting you.
Any insult you perceive from me WAS NOT intentional on my part. What you're insulted by is my ignorance and naivete. You could handle it better.
I thought only 1% of Americans serve in the military? If that figure is accurate then, according to you, 99% of Americans are spineless cowards. Should 99% of us refrain from having an opinion on geo politics? Not every person is cut out for a life in the military, especially so when they disagree with the mission(s) in the first place.
It sounds to me like you want to kill every muslim in the world, do I understand you correctly?
Are they? I don't see "them" capable of invading any part of the united states, but on the contrary, we've invaded 1 sovereign country and one semi-sovereign country so far. Sending small bands of terrorists to hijack planes or carry bombs is not the same thing as threatening our sovereignty or invading our country.
I see it. There's no question that we were attacked. I just disagree with our response to those attacks, I think it was disproportionate and not the best way to handle the situation. I'm perfectly willing to live my life accepting the fact that I MAY be the victim of a foreign terrorist attack, I don't see the threat posed to me great enough to justify our disproportionate response. I'm more afraid of getting into a car accident or being the victim of a mugging than I am of foreign terrorists.
Again, I don't think I've denigrated or disparaged anyone. If you've been insulted by me, I'm sorry, that was not my intent.
I think you'd agree that more effective security at airports and at our ports would stop a lot of these terrorist threats. As would more effective police work. Invading countries with giant armies isn't the only way of protecting ourselves. It may even be counter-productive.
Right. 9/11 was all my fault. What an unfair statement.
really? So invading Iraq, Afghanistan, being in the process of invading Pakistan and...as you insinuated, fighting a war with Iran...disenfranchising, displacing and killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people...in NO way creates any terrorists? All because a small band of terrorists killed 3,000 of our citizens? That doesn't seem like a disproportionate response to you?
If I'm too far away from it to know what's going on, maybe (and don't be insulted by this)...maybe you're too close to it. Maybe you can't see the forest for the trees. Being a college student, I've spoken to a lot of veterans and when I ask how we're doing over there, not one of them has said "GREAT! We're winning! Things are going great.". Don't you find that a little troubling?
Wrong answer. You are living proof that Liberalism is the philosophy of the stupid.
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Good riddance DUmbass!
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I thought only 1% of Americans serve in the military? If that figure is accurate then, according to you, 99% of Americans are spineless cowards. Should 99% of us refrain from having an opinion on geo politics? Not every person is cut out for a life in the military, especially so when they disagree with the mission(s) in the first place.
Yeah. Sometimes it feels that way. But no. You are not all spineless cowards. Some are. The military isn't for everyone. It takes something special to do this where you put something else ahead of your own life. We do it every day. It's because, to me, this country is bigger than just my life, or yours, or any one persons.
It sounds to me like you want to kill every muslim in the world, do I understand you correctly?
My job is to defend this country against ALL enemies, foreign or domestic. I spent my last tour with the Iraq Army, so your statement just shows your stupidity.
Are they? I don't see "them" capable of invading any part of the united states, but on the contrary, we've invaded 1 sovereign country and one semi-sovereign country so far. Sending small bands of terrorists to hijack planes or carry bombs is not the same thing as threatening our sovereignty or invading our country.
They are already invading this country. Slowly, quietly. Building the groundwork. They have already attacked us. They will continue to do so. Your denial to reality shows your stupidity.
I see it. There's no question that we were attacked. I just disagree with our response to those attacks, I think it was disproportionate and not the best way to handle the situation. I'm perfectly willing to live my life accepting the fact that I MAY be the victim of a foreign terrorist attack, I don't see the threat posed to me great enough to justify our disproportionate response. I'm more afraid of getting into a car accident or being the victim of a mugging than I am of foreign terrorists.
The whole big stick approach. You just don't get it. So, if you were getting beat up in Grade School you would go to the teachers and tell on the guys beating you up, right? Then when they'd gotten in trouble, and followed you after school and beat you up again, you still wouldn't fight back? They only way they are going to stop is when they are either all dead, or more scared of our response that they are of attcking us.
Again, I don't think I've denigrated or disparaged anyone. If you've been insulted by me, I'm sorry, that was not my intent.
You are a leftist. You don't understand that your comments are insulting.
I think you'd agree that more effective security at airports and at our ports would stop a lot of these terrorist threats. As would more effective police work. Invading countries with giant armies isn't the only way of protecting ourselves. It may even be counter-productive.
Yup. Oh, wait. The latest series of attacks were started in foreign airposts and worked to avoid security. Damn those cheating som'bitches.
really? So invading Iraq, Afghanistan, being in the process of invading Pakistan and...as you insinuated, fighting a war with Iran...disenfranchising, displacing and killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people...in NO way creates any terrorists? All because a small band of terrorists killed 3,000 of our citizens? That doesn't seem like a disproportionate response to you?
Well...by your way of looking at it, anything more than a strongly worded letter to the UN is a dispropostioned response...
If I'm too far away from it to know what's going on, maybe (and don't be insulted by this)...maybe you're too close to it. Maybe you can't see the forest for the trees. Being a college student, I've spoken to a lot of veterans and when I ask how we're doing over there, not one of them has said "GREAT! We're winning! Things are going great.". Don't you find that a little troubling?
Well are winning. You feel bad that we are winning? You are a leftist, so I can see that your country winning would pain you. It's a hard tough war. Why don't you ask them how they felt about being there, what they saw?
You are a big dumbass. But you are young. You really want to talk about the war- give me a PM and I'll talk to you about it.
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Wrong answer. You are living proof that Liberalism is the philosophy of the stupid.
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Good riddance DUmbass!
you killed him too soon.
bitchslap.
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Any insult you perceive from me WAS NOT intentional on my part. What you're insulted by is my ignorance and naivete. You could handle it better.
The last thing I need is a lecture on etiquette from some worthless lib kid. Save it for someone who hasn't defended your right to be the worst you can be.
I thought only 1% of Americans serve in the military? If that figure is accurate then, according to you, 99% of Americans are spineless cowards.
Nope, just you and any other "know nothing" lefty that thinks like you do.
Not every person is cut out for a life in the military, especially so when they disagree with the mission(s) in the first place.
You disagree with hunting down and killing those who would do our country harm? Had it right the first time - coward.
I see it. There's no question that we were attacked. I just disagree with our response to those attacks, I think it was disproportionate and not the best way to handle the situation.
When dealing with madmen, overwhelming force and the will to use it is the only answer. Or did you think we may have taken things a bit too far with Hitler?
I'm perfectly willing to live my life accepting the fact that I MAY be the victim of a foreign terrorist attack, I don't see the threat posed to me great enough to justify our disproportionate response.
This is what the terrorists are counting on. We had your dumb ass pegged from the beginning.
Lowlife, leftist, coward.
I'm more afraid of getting into a car accident or being the victim of a mugging than I am of foreign terrorists.
Thank God there are those of us who volunteer to do violence on your behalf so that is all you have to worry about.
I think you'd agree that more effective security at airports and at our ports would stop a lot of these terrorist threats. As would more effective police work. Invading countries with giant armies isn't the only way of protecting ourselves. It may even be counter-productive.
Well, let's see:
Bill Clinton treated this as a law enforcement issue and we ended up getting attacked repeatedly; abroad and at home.
GWB treated this as a military problem and nothing since.
Hmmmmmmmm, I'm sure there is a correlation somewhere....
:whatever:
Being a college student, I've spoken to a lot of veterans....
110% of your problem right there, boy. Not one scintilla of real world experience and a refusal to listen to those that have it.
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RZZZA tape your tiny prick to your asshole and go back to imitating Dame Edna RuPaul. .
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Being a college student AND a veteran (though not a combat veteran of course) I know he's full of shit.
There will be a few who feel as he does, but they're in the minority.
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Are they? I don't see "them" capable of invading any part of the united states, but on the contrary, we've invaded 1 sovereign country and one semi-sovereign country so far. Sending small bands of terrorists to hijack planes or carry bombs is not the same thing as threatening our sovereignty or invading our country.
I see it. There's no question that we were attacked. I just disagree with our response to those attacks, I think it was disproportionate and not the best way to handle the situation. I'm perfectly willing to live my life accepting the fact that I MAY be the victim of a foreign terrorist attack, I don't see the threat posed to me great enough to justify our disproportionate response. I'm more afraid of getting into a car accident or being the victim of a mugging than I am of foreign terrorists.
You simply are NOT paying attention!! Are you too busy watching American Idol or playing XBox games?? Look at Detroit!! Look at Minneapolis!! Hell, look at Texas, where Texas has Sharia courts!! There have already been terrorist attacks on our soil The mall in Salt Lake City.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_Square_shooting Then we have Major Nidal Hassan at Ft Hood and a couple of others. There have been many more of them negated through good police work. You'd BEST wake up and smell the coffee!!!
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Maybe he could do a few gigs with the circus. Of course, it wouldn't be much of a stretch.
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lol, i really struck a nerve didn't I? Now who's crying. Relax, if you defend my right to having an opinion then you should be able to handle it when I share it. You can handle fighting in the military but you can't handle dissenting opinion in your little conservative concave?
We'll always be vulnerable to small bands of terrorists, we don't need a large unwieldy army in foreign countries to protect us from that, we need better airport/port security.
When the military accidentally kills innocent civilians (don't tell me it doesn't happen), don't you think that creates about as many terrorists as it destroys?
The enemy we're fighting now has no standing army, no planes, no tanks, no any real way to threaten our sovereignty. All they can do is try to hijack planes and build ghetto-ass bombs to try and scare us into paranoia, cow-tow us to fear, and force our hand...just as Bin Laden did when he forced us to invade two countries with no way to pay for it. Americans...so stupid, so easily misled.
Let me know when a scary muslim army has gathered planes, boats and tanks to invade our coasts, I'll pick up a gun and join the military then.
You should really go to Malmö, Sweden. Or the outskirts of Paris. Or the areas of Israel near the West Bank and Gaza Strip whenever Israel makes a concession. See for yourself what happens when an ideology of conquest is appeased. Or Detroit.
Oh, and **** off. The forum was civil to you and if slandering the serving members is what you give in return, then you need to be zotted.
On edit: I guess he got zotted after all. Good riddance.
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What you're insulted by is my ignorance and naivete. You could handle it better.
You dare to claim - in the span of two short sentences - that you're both ignorant and naive? And then have the audacity, the chutzpah, the ****ing NERVE to wag your silly little finger at this board and tell us that we "could handle it better"? That is rich. :rotf:
It would appear that you've been banned, or are very nearly so. I'm going to go on the supposition that you can, at least, read what is being written here - at least if you're capable of understanding written English. Since you claim to be a college student and you're all smart and shit, I'm going with the assumption.
I thought only 1% of Americans serve in the military? If that figure is accurate then, according to you, 99% of Americans are spineless cowards. Should 99% of us refrain from having an opinion on geo politics? Not every person is cut out for a life in the military, especially so when they disagree with the mission(s) in the first place.
There are a few problems with your statement. First of all, the vast majority of the 99% of Americans who don't serve in the military wouldn't even DARE to suggest that they know what our elected leaders and military leaders know. THEY are not privy to classified information, THEY don't have training in the operational art, THEY form policy and the military executes that policy. Second, disagree with the mission all you want - from your position as low peckerhead on the reacharound panel - your opinion is worthless and pointless. Why? Something to do with training, education, and experience - of which you have ZERO.
By all means! Go ahead and spew the liberal mantra. The talking points and the memes that reveal nothing but pure ignorance and failure to see the reality that is life - not the way you want it. Your version of utopia is right out of Never Never Land - ain't gonna happen, son.
It sounds to me like you want to kill every muslim in the world, do I understand you correctly?
I'm prepared to follow the oath that I've sworn to and am still subject to - to support and defend the Constitution of the US against all enemies - foreign and domestic. The Muslim "religion", to me, is a false religion because it is based on hate, vilification, and violence. But that's another thread for another day.
Are they? I don't see "them" capable of invading any part of the united states, but on the contrary, we've invaded 1 sovereign country and one semi-sovereign country so far. Sending small bands of terrorists to hijack planes or carry bombs is not the same thing as threatening our sovereignty or invading our country.
Where's that facepalm smiley when I need it?!? :thatsright: I'll type slowly, so you can get it -- the mere ACT of committing this kind of heinous attack on American soil threatens our sovereignty. Do you not see that? Look what happened at the onset of WWII, Mr. History Buff: Hawaii wasn't even a ****ing STATE when Japan attacked. So for Muslims to commandeer AMERICAN aircraft and drive them into AMERICAN buildings that are standing on AMERICAN soil - what's that telling you, champ?
I see it. There's no question that we were attacked. I just disagree with our response to those attacks, I think it was disproportionate and not the best way to handle the situation. I'm perfectly willing to live my life accepting the fact that I MAY be the victim of a foreign terrorist attack, I don't see the threat posed to me great enough to justify our disproportionate response. I'm more afraid of getting into a car accident or being the victim of a mugging than I am of foreign terrorists.
Those who are making decisions at levels far above mine, much less yours, are going to take a much more prudent position. Readiness is everything. Failing to see the threat is lunacy and irresponsible behavior. Thank God you're not running the show.
If I'm too far away from it to know what's going on, maybe (and don't be insulted by this)...maybe you're too close to it. Maybe you can't see the forest for the trees. Being a college student, I've spoken to a lot of veterans and when I ask how we're doing over there, not one of them has said "GREAT! We're winning! Things are going great.". Don't you find that a little troubling?
Call me when you've been where I've been and seen what I've seen. Until then, go plant your own ******* forest. I can see all my trees, but you couldn't find your ass with a road map.
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Liberals pissed all over George Bush no matter what he did. Nothing I can say will convince you otherwise, so STFU.
Bingo.
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Glenn Beck is a lunatic. You'd be hard pressed to find someone more conservative than my father, and even he hates glenn beck and thinks he's a lunatic. Also, anyone who attends a political protest is pretty much a lunatic. Political protests inherently draw on the fringe of political society. Sane, moderate people dont gather together to chant stupid slogans and wave stupid signs as if its somehow meaningful. They have better things to do.
Thats what they called THEMSELVES up until they realized it was already an existing term for a sexual act.
You think that's insulting? Wait till I get going. **** religion. Being nondenominational and/or an unbeliever is the American way.
Who cares what gifts he gives? Only you. Only people who love to complain about bullshit. He removed the bust of Churchill, A European and replaced it with a bust of Able Lincoln, an American. Do you people suddenly prefer European heros to American heros? news to me. Special relationship? It was George Washington who said "avoid foreign entanglements."
Personally, I think Winston Churchill was a great man and a great leader.
So... MLK and those that marched with him were lunatics?
Interesting world view you have noob.
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So... MLK and those that marched with him were lunatics?
Interesting world view you have noob.
Psssst, hey, Rich!
He got his ass zotted...
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Actually that is exactly what would happen. For some reason 9/11 and the subsequent attacks after that wasn't the wake up call for you basement dwelling Libtards that it was for the rest of the country and a LOT of the world.
You instead chose to cheerlead for the terrorists...blame America for fanatical terorism in other parts of the world and celebrate when those of us in uniform get killed.
But let me tell you...from actually having been in not only Afghanistan but Iraq as well...what you so mockingly describe is exactly what a large percentage of the Muslim population would like to see happen to "The Great Satan".
Come over here and see for yourself exactly how the terrorists think and what they have planed for us were we not kere kicking their ass. You wouldn't be so glib in your assessment of your safety up there in Illinois.
Ignoring it or pulling out of Afghanistan...Iraq...the Phillipines...and the other places that we are engaged with these thugs that no one knows about will make them go away or stop hating us.
It will only encourage them to keep trying.
Right. Who exactly do you think has put their ass on the line starting waaaaaaaay back before you or I were born to ensure that you get to live all comfy and safe in some 'Burb north of Chicago?
First off...Afghanistan DOES have a standing Army you obtuse dolt. Because we are here...what passed for the "standing Army" in this country prior to 2001...you know them as al-Qaeda wasn't able to successfully pull off anymore 9/11 style attacks.
Informationw e get from being here...in Iraq and otehr places is what allows us to thwart attempts to send explosives in toner cartridges and stop thosands of attacks every year that you and I will never know about.
But you go ahead and keep repeating the asinine claim that you don't need us here or anywhere else where we are currently engaged to keep you safe.
You should be thankful to the men and women in the military today regardless. Because of the 1% of us that volunteer...then continue to re-enlist and serve..your sorry unappreciative ass doesn't have to serve. You get to sit back and rah rah with the folks that claim we need a draft again to end the war...backslap the people who hold up signs calling us babykillers and saying they'd support us if we shot our officers. Because you have ZERO knowledge or comcept of the military and don't have any desire to.
Dude...
I know that you and I have had our spats and fights on this board, but you are spot ****ing on target all the way with this post.
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Psssst, hey, Rich!
He got his ass zotted...
Yeah... I just noticed that.
He was such a good chew toy too.
He will undoubtedly go back to whatever liberal cesspool board that he came from and claim victory...
They couldn't beat me, so they banned me sort of claims.
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You came in here with a willingness to discuss and learn. You were recieved with hostility because we've seen, time and time again, NO leftist comes in here wanting to listen and talk. They want to tell us what is 'right'. When they don't get their way, they rapidly turn to shouting and throwing things like the children they are.
I am growing more and more certain that soon your kind will have to be removed, completely, from the society if we are to survive. You don't want the USA as most of us in this country want it. You will not be happy (ever) unless this turns into a copy of the Soviet Union. You won't be happy then either- but at least you will feel like you are getting somewhere.
You are so very right Dutch508. People like this ass HATE this Country and what it is stands for. They want a "Soviet" style America. Liberalism really is a mental disorder. I am convinced of that.
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I've not really paid too much attention to you, as I saw you are simply another leftist spitting out talking points- irony is, you claim that of us. We do. I won't disagree that the right side has their fine share of problems, but most of my values line up on that side, and not the left. However- I shall reply to your post. My words will be in red so you can see them better.
You came in here with a willingness to discuss and learn. You were recieved with hostility because we've seen, time and time again, NO leftist comes in here wanting to listen and talk. They want to tell us what is 'right'. When they don't get their way, they rapidly turn to shouting and throwing things like the children they are.
I am growing more and more certain that soon your kind will have to be removed, completely, from the society if we are to survive. You don't want the USA as most of us in this country want it. You will not be happy (ever) unless this turns into a copy of the Soviet Union. You won't be happy then either- but at least you will feel like you are getting somewhere.
I beg to differ. He came here claiming such, then did just about everything he could to disprove it.