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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dandi on October 29, 2010, 08:07:13 PM
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This is just wrong.
And they wonder why people are against the government involving themselves in health care.
cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Oct-29-10 07:52 PM
Original message
SC mom upset daughter was taken to get birth control without her knowledge...
A South Carolina mother is upset her 14-year-old daughter was driven from school to a clinic for a birth control shot.
The Post and Courier of Charleston reported the woman was outraged. Her name was not released.
The student was taken to the clinic after classes at Burke High by a worker for the Carolina Empowerment Group, a nonprofit organization working to increase awareness of pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases.
State law allows health services for minors without parental consent, although contraceptives may not be distributed at schools.
Burke principal Charles Benton says the nonprofit is not supposed to take students to clinics. But he says the services provided by the group at Burke are important because of high teen pregnancy rates.
http://www.carolinalive.com/news/story.aspx?id=532575
It's far better than the girl winding up being pregnant at 14.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9416957
Only one poster disagrees with it, a low-post-counter who obviously took a wrong turn looking for sanity:
Mokoil (33 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Oct-29-10 07:56 PM
Response to Original message
1. I don't want ANY jackass
Taking my child for ANY medical procedure without my knowledge.
I would literally go homicidal on them.
It's not the state's God damned job to raise my child, it's mine.
It ain't your child. Didn't you know? It belongs to The Village.
cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Oct-29-10 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #1
9. What if the daughter was afraid to go to her mother?
That's why they made it available in the first place. So that teens who were afraid to go to their parents can get birth control. It's better than being 14 years old and pregnant.
Does it have to be one or the other? Who the **** made you the arbiter of what's best for someone else's child?
baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Oct-29-10 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #9
15. Bingo.
It's precisely because some adults go "homicidal" over the sexuality of their children that the laws should allow minors access to birth control without parental consent.
Mokoil (33 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Oct-29-10 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #9
17. Feel free to give up your parental rights to the state
I'll fight to keep mine.
cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Oct-29-10 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #17
27. That's not what this is about...
It's about protecting the teenager. If the girl believes she is going to have sex and wants to protect herself, she should be able to do that. She may believe her mother wouldn't allow it. The girl should be empowered to protect herself.
Mokoil (33 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Oct-29-10 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #21
24. I'll tell you who is clueless
People who don't look at where these actions could lead.
cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Oct-29-10 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #24
33. Denying a teenager the right to protect themselves can lead to disaster...
This is about a teenager wanting to protect herself because she did't believe her mother would approve. Getting the shot is a far better alternative than being 14 years old and pregnant.
proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Oct-29-10 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #1
55. Yet it is perfectly legal
I have a feeling that's a good thing for your daughter(s).
The day my children get medical treatment based on what your dumb ass "feels is a good thing" is the day they'd wind me in my shroud.
CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Oct-29-10 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #50
61. Now, this is really good.
Teenagers need to be proactive about their sexual lifestyles, and this young woman has done well.
I feel sorry for her mother, but ultimately the choice is the girl's.
:banghead:
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But holy hell if I wanted to take an aspirin in high school for a headache. If you were lucky, you got a week or two enforced vacation. If not, you were probably getting expelled and summoned to court.
:whatever:
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They've done this for abortions too. You need a note signed by your Parents to take an aspirin, yet birth control? and abortions? no problem at all, the hypocrisy of it.
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But holy hell if I wanted to take an aspirin in high school for a headache. If you were lucky, you got a week or two enforced vacation. If not, you were probably getting expelled and summoned to court.
:whatever:
GMTA! :cheersmate:
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I'd be pissed AS HELL if someone, an adult, took my CHILD to get any form of medicine without my knowledge or consent. It isn't right. Period.
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This is nothing short of a WTF?
Any male having sex with a 14 year old girl would be charged with either statutory rape or pedophilia and the DUmp would join in on the condemnation and rightly so.
Who or what do they think she is "protecting" herself from?
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See DUmmies? Maybe now you'll wake up to what your lord zero wants. Still want your big gubberment "nanny" state? :mental:
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Teenagers are too ****ing stupid to be entrusted with empowering themselves. A teenager who is worried about parental approval has good parents.
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Not to mention the obvious...but a birth control shot will not protect this kid from multiple other results of having sex at 14, from STD's to the emotional toll. Maybe, just maybe, Mom would have done a better job of protecting her child than the state employee? Ya think??
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Teenagers are too ****ing stupid to be entrusted with empowering themselves. A teenager who is worried about parental approval has good parents.
Indeed. That's how it should be.
CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Oct-29-10 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #50
61. Now, this is really good.
Teenagers need to be proactive about their sexual lifestyles, and this young woman has done well.
I feel sorry for her mother, but ultimately the choice is the girl's.
Not for a 14 year old it's not.
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This is wrong on so many levels....
1 ) a minor child is the responsibility of the parent(s) or guardian(s) - in nearly every other circumstance, the parent would be required to give consent.
2 ) a minor child engaged in sex is considered by law to be raped - either raped by someone who has committed a sex crime against a child, or a statutory rapist if the partner is also a minor. Both of these acts are crimes, and will be prosecuted by the state regardless if the parents agree to prosecute or not - yet the very same state is providing a service to a sexually active child that would allow them to continue on with the illegal behavior without repercussions...
3 ) a birth control shot does nothing to stop STDs.
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Underage girls can't get their ears pierced without paternal unit permission yet, they want to hand out birth control and abortions to girls.
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Okay, let's say said teenager gets the shot and knowing she can't get pregnant, whores around with anyone who wears a jock strap (I know, in some circles that wouldn't necessarily be a man). So shot that will protect her from what sexually transmitted diseases? Because a GIRL on birth control sees little need for her partner of the moment to use a condom no matter how many times they're told about "safe sex". Not to mention, show me a guy who will use a condom if he doesn't have to.
Cindie
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Teenagers are too ****ing stupid to be entrusted with empowering themselves. A teenager who is worried about parental approval has good parents.
If the hormone levels present in teenagers mind were present in an adult, that adult would be considered highly unstable and possibly mental. Yet, according to liberals, teenage girls can make "empowering" decisions. If the DUmmies want to know why some of the major problems in this country they need only locate a mirror.
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Here's my problem with keeping the parent out of the loop when it comes to giving a child an injection.
This injection is essentially a medication. Medications have contraindications. Cases where if you have (fill in the blank) you should not take the medication. Medications also have side effects.
Does the child (and at 14 years old she is indeed a child) have the maturity and knowledge level to properly deal with the contraindications and side effects?
What happens if the child (and at 14 years old she is indeed a child) does have some sort of reaction to the medication and as a result the parent takes the child for medical care? In most cases one of the first things a doctor wants to know is if the patient is on any medication. In this case the parent doesn't know about the medication so it will not be mentioned by the parent. Will the child (and at 14 years old she is indeed a child) be responsible enough to confess taking the medication to the doctor? Keep in mind that this is a child (and at 14 years old she is indeed a child) that apparently isn't responsible enough to keep her legs closed.