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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: soleil on October 25, 2010, 08:35:35 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9384823&mesg_id=9384823
Just thought there were some interesting comments there. I don't think it is abuse at all. My daughter can get her ears pierced when she is old enough to ask for it, and be able to take care of her ears after the piercing. That is just me. I am not a fan of infant/toddler piercing. I see tots and infants with their ears pierced all of the time, and I have never once wondered if they were abused because of it. Oh DU! Some lovely stuff there I tell ya.
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Hmm so far 45 people said yes.
I find it hard to comprehend that ear piercing would be abuse yet abortion is ok.
Then again I'm just a right wing nut job.
:-)
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Hmm so far 45 people said yes.
I find it hard to comprehend that ear piercing would be abuse yet abortion is ok.
Then again I'm just a right wing nut job.
:-)
I swear I think some people there just like to be so far out there with their beliefs because they think it makes them a better democrat, but quite honestly, I don't think it jives with most democratic American views. Maybe I am naive though. I don't know many southern democrats that would agree with a lot posted there. I do agree with some things there. For the most part, I feel like it is a contest as to who can be the most liberal, the most far-out democrat because somehow that makes them better.
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Hmm so far 45 people said yes.
I find it hard to comprehend that ear piercing would be abuse yet abortion is ok.
Then again I'm just a right wing nut job.
:-)
Very true. Good answer. :cheersmate:
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Caretha (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-25-10 09:09 PM
Response to Original message
62. No problem
as long as it doesn't sexually affect them in any way.
I'm speechless.
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I swear I think some people there just like to be so far out there with their beliefs because they think it makes them a better democrat, but quite honestly, I don't think it jives with most democratic American views. Maybe I am naive though. I don't know many southern democrats that would agree with a lot posted there. I do agree with some things there. For the most part, I feel like it is a contest as to who can be the most liberal, the most far-out democrat because somehow that makes them better.
I think they believe the crap they are shoveling.
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I'm speechless.
Well hell what good parent doesn't think of the future sex lives of their child?
:mental:
They are sick.
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I don't think it's child abuse....but neither do I like to see baby girls or little girls at all, until they are teenagers, with pierced ears.
I know it's a cultural thing for some.
My daughter asked me what I thought about her getting her daughter's pierced....I don't think she liked my response, but so far she hasn't done it....
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I'm speechless.
Right. It is the ears people. Why would that thought cross that person's mind? If we were talking a vaginal piercing, but we are talking ears and kids. :mental:
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Right. It is the ears people. Why would that thought cross that person's mind? If we were talking a vaginal piercing, but we are talking ears and kids. :mental:
If they were talking about vaginal piercings on toddlers at DU it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
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I don't think it's child abuse....but neither do I like to see baby girls or little girls at all, until they are teenagers, with pierced ears.
I know it's a cultural thing for some.
My daughter asked me what I thought about her getting her daughter's pierced....I don't think she liked my response, but so far she hasn't done it....
I personally cringe when I see an infant's ears pierced. Not because I think she was abused, but because I think it is tacky, and as if there aren't enough things to worry about with caring for an infant, but like I said, that is just me. I want my kid to at least be able to say that she wants it done. My daughter won't be getting her ears pierced for quite some time, but really it is none of my business if someone chooses to pierce their kids ears. Just because it isn't something I would do doesn't necessarily make it wrong.
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I don't think it's abuse either, if I had a little girl I would pierce her ears ASAP.
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It's not child abuse.
Although I would not pierce my daughter's ears until she was old enough to say "yes" or "no" to the piercing.
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For some reason, I thought the thread title read "Is piercing a baby's arm a form of child abuse?" What?
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Guess I'm a child abuser according to the DUmp, cause we got our daughter's ears pierced on her first birthday. When can I expect DCFS to come knocking? :whatever:
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Wanna see some fun over there?
Start a circumcision thread.
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AAAAAGGGHHHHH!!! MSB! I was perusing over there yesterday, someone started a FGM thread. It was too uncomfortably close to dissing Islam, so the conversation promptly turned to regular male baby circumcision. All of a sudden, I knew waaaaaaayyy TMI, especially since I've seen some of the picture threads. I don't really want to know about any of those guys' "sexual pleasure." I didn't dare bring the mess over here, for fear of the bitch slaps. I exited ASAP and rowed back to safer waters.
Anyway, as for baby ear piercing, I think of it this way. Each step in growing up from a girl to a woman is a series of rites of passage. Being allowed to wear makeup, heels, bras, etc., going on dates, first time this and that, each is a step. Ear piercing was one of them for me. If I had a daughter, I'd have it be one for her.
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I got mine pierced on Columbus Day. 1978. I was off school that day. :-)
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That whole discussion, as most of their's are, is about control. If you call it child abuse then they have the 'power' to turn you over to the government if you don't "Do what THEY tell you to do."
It's that simple. DUmmies want power and since they are too impotent to get some on their own they want to be able to do it at the barrel of a gun.
KC
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Guess I'm a child abuser according to the DUmp, cause we got our daughter's ears pierced on her first birthday. When can I expect DCFS to come knocking? :whatever:
How is the pregnancy going?
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Not abuse, but not really appropriate until the kid is old enough to ask for it, either.
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How does the DUmp feel about the tradition of female circumcision/mutilation in islam?
My best guess since the islam card trumps all others that it is OK.
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How does the DUmp feel about the tradition of female circumcision/mutilation in islam?
My best guess since the islam card trumps all others that it is OK.
I think most of them are against it, but they couch their condemnation on the society, not on the Religion of PeaceTM .
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How is the pregnancy going?
Swimmingly, thank you for asking! Doctor says baby is looking good. We should know if it's a boy or a girl sometime between Thanksgiving and Christmas.
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That whole discussion, as most of their's are, is about control. If you call it child abuse then they have the 'power' to turn you over to the government if you don't "Do what THEY tell you to do."
It's that simple. DUmmies want power and since they are too impotent to get some on their own they want to be able to do it at the barrel of a gun.
KC
Ding! Ding! Ding!
H5 for Teh Winnah!
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Swimmingly, thank you for asking! Doctor says baby is looking good. We should know if it's a boy or a girl sometime between Thanksgiving and Christmas.
That is great!! Good luck!
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AAAAAGGGHHHHH!!! MSB! I was perusing over there yesterday, someone started a FGM thread. It was too uncomfortably close to dissing Islam, so the conversation promptly turned to regular male baby circumcision. All of a sudden, I knew waaaaaaayyy TMI, especially since I've seen some of the picture threads. I don't really want to know about any of those guys' "sexual pleasure." I didn't dare bring the mess over here, for fear of the bitch slaps. I exited ASAP and rowed back to safer waters.
Anyway, as for baby ear piercing, I think of it this way. Each step in growing up from a girl to a woman is a series of rites of passage. Being allowed to wear makeup, heels, bras, etc., going on dates, first time this and that, each is a step. Ear piercing was one of them for me. If I had a daughter, I'd have it be one for her.
If that's the one with ProudDad proclaiming how he'd lost a good chunk of sexual pleasure due to circumcision (which, if I remember correctly, he blamed on the evil USA fundies or Catholicism). I got outta there quick as well.
I had to learn to play the piano before I could get my ears pierced. Suddenly, the John Thompson piano book for beginners became my best friend.
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How does the DUmp feel about the tradition of female circumcision/mutilation in islam?
My best guess since the islam card trumps all others that it is OK.
Great point Jukin!! :hi5: Someone should bring that question over to the DUmp to start a fire. Would love to see them scramble. :evillaugh:
They must be "ok" with the Islamic husband being able to beat their wife/children as well?
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If that's the one with ProudDad proclaiming how he'd lost a good chunk of sexual pleasure due to circumcision (which, if I remember correctly, he blamed on the evil USA fundies or Catholicism). I got outta there quick as well.
I had to learn to play the piano before I could get my ears pierced. Suddenly, the John Thompson piano book for beginners became my best friend.
He should blame it on the women's movement. They were the ones really pushing hard for male circumcision claiming that it reduced disease and cancer in women. They cited a low cervical cancer rates in Jewish women accrediting it to all the Jewish males being circumcised. At the same time there was a study showing that Japanese women had an even lower rate of cervical cancer and none of their lovers had been circumcised. In the end the studies showed that cleanliness and number of sexual partners were the determining factors.
Putting the results very plainly, "Liberal women are dirty sluts and want to blame men for the consequences of "their" actions."
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Swimmingly, thank you for asking! Doctor says baby is looking good. We should know if it's a boy or a girl sometime between Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Great that things are going well!!! :hi5:
Looking forward to hearing if it's a boy or a girl!
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