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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: NHSparky on October 20, 2010, 11:16:21 PM
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NPR Ends Analyst’s Contract After Comments on Muslims
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LINK (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/21/business/media/21npr.html?_r=1)
By BRIAN STELTER
Published: October 20, 2010
(c) New York Times
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NPR has terminated its contract with Juan Williams, one of its senior news analysts, after he made comments about Muslims on the Fox News Channel.
NPR said in a statement that it gave Mr. Williams notice of his termination on Wednesday night.
The move came after Mr. Williams, who is also a Fox News political analyst, appeared on the “The O’Reilly Factor†on Monday. On the show, the host, Bill O’Reilly, asked him to respond to the notion that the United States was facing a “Muslim dilemma.†Mr. O’Reilly said, “The cold truth is that in the world today jihad, aided and abetted by some Muslim nations, is the biggest threat on the planet.â€
Mr. Williams said he concurred with Mr. O’Reilly.
He continued: “I mean, look, Bill, I’m not a bigot. You know the kind of books I’ve written about the civil rights movement in this country. But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous.â€
Mr. Williams also made reference to the Pakistani immigrant who pleaded guilty this month to trying to plant a car bomb in Times Square. “He said the war with Muslims, America’s war is just beginning, first drop of blood. I don’t think there’s any way to get away from these facts,†Mr. Williams said.
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Tell the truth, get fired from the MSM.
Time to defund NPR and PBS.
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He's always been one of the more tolerable liberals on Fox, IMO.
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never thought I would have any sympathy for juan williams. the nazis at NPR (paid for with our tax dollars, by the way) say it is because of comments he made about muslims on o'reilly's show, but they have been looking for an excuse to can him for over a year.
way to go, juan. this is probably your first exposure to the extreme intolerance of the left, their hostility to free speech, and their hyper partisanship to pet liberal causes. if you have pissed of NPR, you must be doing something right.
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Juan Williams was tolerable at least compared to other leftists I have seen. NPR is a joke and I can hear their bias quickly.
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We need to de-fund PR. All they are is a Liberal talking points repeater, at least with their biased "talk" shows. I perceive them as Air America Lite........
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Welcome Mr. Williams to the cold hard reality of what happens to someone when they don't conform to the Liberal hive mentality and think for themselves.
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Welcome Mr. Williams to the cold hard reality of what happens to someone when they don't conform to the Liberal hive mentality and think for themselves.
No doubt Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg are going to storm off their show tomorrow in protest.
Newsflash, hags--you'd be the first with your noses and ears cut off for daring to come out from behind your burkahs.
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Didn't hear at all about this. My respect for Williams (who I would refer to as "Wrong Williams") has gone up drastically.
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See what the left thinks of you Juan when for the first time ever you actually expressed an original thought rather then repeat a script of talking points.
Bet you always have thought it was Conservatives that demanded group think and censorship didn`t you?
Welcome to who the real fascists of American politics are.
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See what the left thinks of you Juan when for the first time ever you actually expressed an original thought rather then repeat a script of talking points.
Bet you always have thought it was Conservatives that demanded group think and censorship didn`t you?
Welcome to who the real fascists of American politics are.
Maybe it'll drive Williams towards the center . . . or Right. :tongue: :fuelfire:
Wouldn't that be a hoot? :evillaugh:
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Can he sue to get his job back?
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Guess we will be seeing alot more of Juan on Fox now.
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Can he sue to get his job back?
I don't think so. There would have to be evidence of bias against a recognized, aggrieved group.
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All the comments on the Daily Caller reflect these CC comments as well. The rub is the taxpayer-funded nature of PBS. I wonder if this will be a catalyst?
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Once again, the proof is that the Left is only in favor of freedom of speech if that speech agrees with THEM...
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I think WE is absolutely correct to say that NPR has been looking for an excuse to get rid of him.
From the article:
In February 2009, NPR said it had asked that he stop being identified on “The O’Reilly Factor†as a “senior correspondent for NPR,†even though that title was accurate.
Alicia C. Shepard, the NPR ombudswoman, said at the time that Mr. Williams was a “lightning rod†for the public radio organization in part because he “tends to speak one way on NPR and another on Fox.â€
Ms. Shepard said she had received 378 listener e-mails in 2008 listing complaints and frustrations about Mr. Williams.
First of all, I get tickled when I read this PC crap like "ombudswoman". Sorta like a Chicago politician being called an "alderwoman" when they happen to be female. What a friggin' joke.
Secondly, a whopping 378 listener emails who bitch about Williams? Fast Company says there are 26.4 million listeners on NPR, admittedly not all of them deliberately listen to Williams. But it's decidedly ridiculous and disingenuous to state that NPR fired a guy because of 378 disgruntled libs who feel Williams isn't fellating the lib cause enough, or presents a differing opinion apart from NPR.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as a journalist, he's obligated to present the facts. But as a guest on O'Reilly's show, he may or may not be functioning as a journalist and more like a pundit, in which case he's entitled to his opinion.
It's a shame the NPR Nazis don't get that. Howzat for "All Things Considered?" Freakin' asshats.
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looks like NPR has a disgruntled former employee on it's hands.
Reached this morning in Washington, Williams said he was still digesting the news of his termination and didn't want to comment. "I better bite my tongue at this point," he said.
Link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/21/AR2010102101474.html)
I'll bet this has more to do with the blow up o'reilly had with whoopi and that retarded fat woman than his "anti-muslim remarks". it appears as though NPR has been gunning for him since last february, and then juan actually appears on that horrible bill o'reilly's show? that was more than NPR could tolerate.
Mr. Williams’s contributions on Fox raised eyebrows at NPR in the past. In February 2009, NPR said it had asked that he stop being identified on “The O’Reilly Factor†as a “senior correspondent for NPR,†even though that title was accurate.
Alicia C. Shepard, the NPR ombudswoman, said at the time that Mr. Williams was a “lightning rod†for the public radio organization in part because he “tends to speak one way on NPR and another on Fox.â€
looks like lightning finally hit the lightning rod.
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welcome to the world of the state run media :banghead:
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In recent years, Williams became a fridge break for me on Fox. He never did anything but flak for the left--and pretty boringly, with little insight even of the warped kind--on the Special Report and FNS panels. So I really can't feel very sorry for him.
There's little I can add to Carl's point. Will Williams wake up and smell the coffee, at least as much as Bernie Goldberg? We'll see.
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In recent years, Williams became a fridge break for me on Fox. He never did anything but flak for the left--and pretty boringly, with little insight even of the warped kind--on the Special Report and FNS panels. So I really can't feel very sorry for him.
There's little I can add to Carl's point. Will Williams wake up and smell the coffee, at least as much as Bernie Goldberg? We'll see.
wasn't it buckley that famously said, "I conservative is a liberal that has been mugged by reality"? I just hope that Juan can identify NPR in the police line up, because he certainly just got mugged.
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wasn't it buckley that famously said, "I conservative is a liberal that has been mugged by reality"? I just hope that Juan can identify NPR in the police line up, because he certainly just got mugged.
Impossible.....white people all look alike.
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I wonder if this was just an excuse to fire him since what he said isn't inflammatory.
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Can he sue to get his job back?
Probly not, though I have no doubt CAIR will sick their lawyers on him for slander!
Ya get your ass kicked nowadays, in this country, for tellin' the frikkin' truth! O'Bummer will likely incarcerate him by executive order!
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Looks like NPR had a little help in making their decision about Mr. Williams:
It should be noted that the Council for American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) sent around a press release on Wednesday afternoon. CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad called for action against Williams: "Such irresponsible and inflammatory comments would not be tolerated if they targeted any other racial, ethnic or religious minority, and they should not pass without action by NPR." The New York Times somehow omitted CAIR from its Juan-is-gone story.
Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2010/10/21/npr-hates-fox-after-cair-demand-action-npr-fires-juan-williams-oreilly-f#ixzz10BBCeMJY
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Looks like NPR had a little help in making their decision about Mr. Williams:
Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2010/10/21/npr-hates-fox-after-cair-demand-action-npr-fires-juan-williams-oreilly-f#ixzz10BBCeMJY
One of many things that burn me, CAIR was on the FBI terrorist list, until 0bie. I wonder how Williams likes his tolerant bunch now?
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Can he sue to get his job back?
I don't know about getting his job back, but wouldn't he be able to sue for his 1st Amendment rights being abridged? NPR does take tax money and is a public organization. IMO that makes them a de facto govt organization, and subject to civil rights actions.
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I don't know about getting his job back, but wouldn't he be able to sue for his 1st Amendment rights being abridged? NPR does take tax money and is a public organization. IMO that makes them a de facto govt organization, and subject to civil rights actions.
You have a point, censorship of his free speech rights.
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I don't know about getting his job back, but wouldn't he be able to sue for his 1st Amendment rights being abridged? NPR does take tax money and is a public organization. IMO that makes them a de facto govt organization, and subject to civil rights actions.
Someone wanna 'splain to me if they are funded by the gubmint, they can take a million dollars from that left wing prick, Soros????????
Remove their funding! let's see how long they last without taxpayer support!
Let Soros fund the whole ****in' thing!
ETA:
Same thing for PBS! They take donations from the worst left wing hacks in HollyWierd and our enemies abroad, then try and rewrite history to make their donors happy!
They too are funded by us! If they solicit money, let them survive on their own! It's sure as hell how charity orgs do it!
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Juan should not have gotten fired. AT ALL! For speaking his mind and telling the truth?! Wow! (God forbid you say "boo" about the mooselims.) Juan was not wrong in what he said. I back him 100%.
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Ah...poor Juan.....slightly stepped away from stock liberal manta...they'd been gunning for him since he started commentary of FOX. As Rush said.."hoisted on his own petard".
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Juan should not have gotten fired. AT ALL! For speaking his mind and telling the truth?! Wow! (God forbid you say "boo" about the mooselims.) Juan was not wrong in what he said. I back him 100%.
While I think Juan is nothin' more than a parrot of the left most times, he did speak the truth this time.
I think they been gunnin' for him ever since FOX hired him as their token liberal! Must not camp with the enemy, doncha know!
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Didn't Jesse Jackson say something very similar many years ago? Something about being relieved while walking down a street, hearing footsteps behind him, turning around to see it was a white person, and not a black?
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The View discussed the firing this morning. (Joy was not there)
Barbara Walters said he was wrong to "fear Muslims in full Muslim attire"....she said that ", when she sees them, she feels safe, because terrorists do everything they can to "blend in" with the general public". :whatever:
However, she also said that NPR was wrong to fire Williams, because on the O'Reilly show he is an analyst/pundit and entitled to his opinion and to voice it. Whereas on NPR, he is in the position of "journalist" and should not voice his personal opinions.
Patricia Heaton was the guest host (she's on "The Middle"(?) on ABC, and was Ray Romano's wife on "Everybody Loves Raymond") Heaton said it was wrong that people have had to become so politically correct regarding the Muslims. She said that if somebody said..."there's a Catholic priest, everyone hide their children" or if someone made a comment about the Tea Party, that there would be no repercussions!! It's only if someone comments about Muslims in a negative way, that people become ridiculous on political correctness!! She said people should have a right to their own opinions whether or not they are politically correct or not!" I was pretty impressed that she came right out and said that!
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The View discussed the firing this morning. (Joy was not there)
Barbara Walters said he was wrong to "fear Muslims in full Muslim attire"....she said that ", when she sees them, she feels safe, because terrorists do everything they can to "blend in" with the general public". :whatever:
However, she also said that NPR was wrong to fire Williams, because on the O'Reilly show he is an analyst/pundit and entitled to his opinion and to voice it. Whereas on NPR, he is in the position of "journalist" and should not voice his personal opinions.
Patricia Heaton was the guest host (she's on "The Middle"(?) on ABC, and was Ray Romano's wife on "Everybody Loves Raymond") Heaton said it was wrong that people have had to become so politically correct regarding the Muslims. She said that if somebody said..."there's a Catholic priest, everyone hide their children" or if someone made a comment about the Tea Party, that there would be no repercussions!! It's only if someone comments about Muslims in a negative way, that people become ridiculous on political correctness!! She said people should have a right to their own opinions whether or not they are politically correct or not!" I was pretty impressed that she came right out and said that!
Patricia Heaton I remember is a Republican.. On NPR anyone who is on Fox and NPR will lose their job. Maura is next I bet.
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While I think Juan is nothin' more than a parrot of the left most times, he did speak the truth this time.
I think they been gunnin' for him ever since FOX hired him as their token liberal! Must not camp with the enemy, doncha know!
I think that's exactly the reason.
He is a leftist. But on this point, he was spot on. :cheersmate:
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The View discussed the firing this morning. (Joy was not there)
Barbara Walters said he was wrong to "fear Muslims in full Muslim attire"....she said that ", when she sees them, she feels safe, because terrorists do everything they can to "blend in" with the general public". :whatever:
However, she also said that NPR was wrong to fire Williams, because on the O'Reilly show he is an analyst/pundit and entitled to his opinion and to voice it. Whereas on NPR, he is in the position of "journalist" and should not voice his personal opinions.
Patricia Heaton was the guest host (she's on "The Middle"(?) on ABC, and was Ray Romano's wife on "Everybody Loves Raymond") Heaton said it was wrong that people have had to become so politically correct regarding the Muslims. She said that if somebody said..."there's a Catholic priest, everyone hide their children" or if someone made a comment about the Tea Party, that there would be no repercussions!! It's only if someone comments about Muslims in a negative way, that people become ridiculous on political correctness!! She said people should have a right to their own opinions whether or not they are politically correct or not!" I was pretty impressed that she came right out and said that!
Hmmmmm......did WhoopiDoopiDoo and Blowhard walk off the set?
Just askin'....
Don't know how any sane person can watch that frikkin' show!
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Hmmmmm......did WhoopiDoopiDoo and Blowhard walk off the set?
Just askin'....
Don't know how any sane person can watch that frikkin' show!
Yeah they did when O'Reilly said something about Muzzies. I never watch it. I get ill at the mere thought of it!
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Hmmmmm......did WhoopiDoopiDoo and Blowhard walk off the set?
Just askin'....
Don't know how any sane person can watch that frikkin' show!
As I said, Joy was not on the show today, Patricia Heaton was the "guest host".
I watch it because it's a "know your enemy" type thing. This show had a great deal of influence on the last election and getting Obama elected. Itwas information from this show, that got a lot of the "female voter" out to vote.
I find it fascinating and incredibly pathetic - that people, women in particular, can be so influenced in their political voting - the direction of this country - by entertainers!! I have always enjoyed tv, movies, and music from an entertainment standpoint...and that includes the performers. However, I have never had an "idol worship" of them, nor have I allowed my life/opinions to be influenced by them. I don't understand the mindset that some people have, that enables them to be so enamored of an entertainer to adopt the entertainer's opinions as their own.
The first 20 minutes or so is talk/opinion....the rest of the show is predominantly non-political, and it's just something that I have on tv that doesn't bother me while I'm working. My other choices at that time of day would be Ellen, Price is Right, or something else just as dumb. I've already had Fox News on for a couple of hours.
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The left devours it's own - I love it!!!111
Juan has more journalistic integrity than 98% of NPR ever had.
Hopefully this will usher in their demise when Congress de-funds them.
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I hope he has learned that the leftist interpretation of free speech is 'only free if you toe to the party line.'
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I hope he has learned that the leftist interpretation of free speech is 'only free if you toe to the party line.'
Hopefully, a lot of other people will realize it too.
Less than two weeks before a national election. :-)
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As I said, Joy was not on the show today, Patricia Heaton was the "guest host".
I watch it because it's a "know your enemy" type thing. This show had a great deal of influence on the last election and getting Obama elected. Itwas information from this show, that got a lot of the "female voter" out to vote.
I find it fascinating and incredibly pathetic - that people, women in particular, can be so influenced in their political voting - the direction of this country - by entertainers!! I have always enjoyed tv, movies, and music from an entertainment standpoint...and that includes the performers. However, I have never had an "idol worship" of them, nor have I allowed my life/opinions to be influenced by them. I don't understand the mindset that some people have, that enables them to be so enamored of an entertainer to adopt the entertainer's opinions as their own.
The first 20 minutes or so is talk/opinion....the rest of the show is predominantly non-political, and it's just something that I have on tv that doesn't bother me while I'm working. My other choices at that time of day would be Ellen, Price is Right, or something else just as dumb. I've already had Fox News on for a couple of hours.
"Know your enemy" The View I cannot handle.. I try to watch Maddow/Cnn/Keif. Not to long though, my blood boils enough during the day!
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"Know your enemy" The View I cannot handle.. I try to watch Maddow/Cnn/Keif. Not to long though, my blood boils enough during the day!
I can't watch CNN anymore, at all. Last night when we were stuck in the Miami airport, the tv in our waiting area was on CNN, and it was Spitzer and whoever the woman with him is. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: Incredible!!! Some guy was being interviewed regarding the election going to the GOP and they just didn't want to hear it.
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Alicia C. Shepard, the NPR ombudswoman, said at the time that Mr. Williams was a “lightning rod†for the public radio organization in part because he “tends to speak one way on NPR and another on Fox.â€
"Ombudswoman/Dyke/Turkey Baster Phallic WannaBe/FemiNazi"...
Nuff said...
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As I said, Joy was not on the show today, Patricia Heaton was the "guest host".
I watch it because it's a "know your enemy" type thing. This show had a great deal of influence on the last election and getting Obama elected. Itwas information from this show, that got a lot of the "female voter" out to vote.
I find it fascinating and incredibly pathetic - that people, women in particular, can be so influenced in their political voting - the direction of this country - by entertainers!! I have always enjoyed tv, movies, and music from an entertainment standpoint...and that includes the performers. However, I have never had an "idol worship" of them, nor have I allowed my life/opinions to be influenced by them. I don't understand the mindset that some people have, that enables them to be so enamored of an entertainer to adopt the entertainer's opinions as their own.
The first 20 minutes or so is talk/opinion....the rest of the show is predominantly non-political, and it's just something that I have on tv that doesn't bother me while I'm working. My other choices at that time of day would be Ellen, Price is Right, or something else just as dumb. I've already had Fox News on for a couple of hours.
Ah! I didn't catch the part about Baywhore bein' absent!
Sorry, I just can't stand that woman!
I'm with you! I find it amazing some of the crap these people state as fact, is absorbed by a so called intelligent audience! It is so easy nowadays to check what these people say, yet the voting public is so naive, they ignore the fact they are bein' lied to!
Thank the Good Lord I married a woman that doesn't even believe me! "Toots" would never take what these people say as gospel!
One wonders why most voters don't take the privilege of being able to elect our reps more seriously!
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I can't watch CNN anymore, at all. Last night when we were stuck in the Miami airport, the tv in our waiting area was on CNN, and it was Spitzer and whoever the woman with him is. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: Incredible!!! Some guy was being interviewed regarding the election going to the GOP and they just didn't want to hear it.
Oh that Spitzer show I won't ever go to again. The other night they had on Van Jones 0bamas former Green Czar. Just a terrible show.
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NPR has no Blacks there. They fired a top manager at NPR, Greg Peppers, who is Black.
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NPR has no Blacks there. They fired a top manager at NPR, Greg Peppers, who is Black.
:racist: surely NPR would not do that.../s
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NPR CEO: Juan Williams’ Views Should Stay Between Himself And “His Psychiatrist” (http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/10/npr-ceo-juan-williams-views-should-stay-between-himself-and-his-psychiatrist-video/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gatewaypundit2+%28Gateway+Pundit%29&utm_content=FaceBook)
Classy.
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http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/1010/Fox_hands_Williams_2_million_contract.html
Fox News moved swiftly to turn the controversy over Juan Williams’s firing to its advantage, offering him an expanded role and a new three-ye
Heads at the DU exploding now? :lmao: CAIR that ended well...NO? :lmao:
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http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/1010/Fox_hands_Williams_2_million_contract.html
Heads at the DU exploding now? :lmao: CAIR that ended well...NO? :lmao:
The bonfire is small, but they are weeping. :D
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9363373
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Either Defund NPR or they need to look at firing the ones responsable for this.
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National Politburo Radio should be defunded.
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The bonfire is small, but they are weeping. :D
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9363373
weeping is good.. :lmao:
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NPR CEO: Juan Williams’ Views Should Stay Between Himself And “His Psychiatrist” (http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/10/npr-ceo-juan-williams-views-should-stay-between-himself-and-his-psychiatrist-video/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gatewaypundit2+%28Gateway+Pundit%29&utm_content=FaceBook)
Classy.
Did ya hear the part where one of 'em said God would get him, and he or one of his kids might contact AIDS?????
Class act over there at NPR!
And to think, we're funding these asshats! How ****ed up is that?
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NPR CEO: Juan Williams’ Views Should Stay Between Himself And “His Psychiatrist†(http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/10/npr-ceo-juan-williams-views-should-stay-between-himself-and-his-psychiatrist-video/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gatewaypundit2+%28Gateway+Pundit%29&utm_content=FaceBook)
Classy.
I know, right??
This coming from a woman(?) that looks like a man! :censored:
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NPR: Talk radio for Progressives By Progressives funded by everyone.
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'I was fired for telling the truth' (http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/21/opinion-juan-williams-i-was-fired-for-telling-the-truth/)
Yesterday NPR fired me for telling the truth. The truth is that I worry when I am getting on an airplane and see people dressed in garb that identifies them first and foremost as Muslims.
This is not a bigoted statement. It is a statement of my feelings, my fears after the terrorist attacks of 9/11 by radical Muslims. In a debate with Bill O’Reilly I revealed my fears to set up the case for not making rash judgments about people of any faith. I pointed out that the Atlanta Olympic bomber — as well as Timothy McVeigh and the people who protest against gay rights at military funerals — are Christians but we journalists don’t identify them by their religion.
And I made it clear that all Americans have to be careful not to let fears lead to violation of anyone’s constitutional rights, be it to build a mosque, carry the Koran or drive a New York cab without fear having your throat slashed. Bill and I argued after I said he has to take care in the way he talks about the 9/11 attacks so as not to provoke bigotry.
(more...)
The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/21/opinion-juan-williams-i-was-fired-for-telling-the-truth/#ixzz133PjJd3u)
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Williams was on O'Reilly tonight....
I'm watching the repeat of it now...so far, Williams has been on, Karl Rove, and now Laura Ingraham ... all talking about it.
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The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/21/opinion-juan-williams-i-was-fired-for-telling-the-truth/#ixzz133PjJd3u)
Big surprise! The left jumps the gun again!
It's becoming a habit! They need to lay off them drugs!
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It should be noted that the Council for American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) sent around a press release on Wednesday afternoon. CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad called for action against Williams: "Such irresponsible and inflammatory comments would not be tolerated if they targeted any other racial, ethnic or religious minority, and they should not pass without action by NPR." The New York Times somehow omitted CAIR from its Juan-is-gone story.
He He He - bunch of SCRUNTS!!
The left self-immolating, yummy....
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He He He - bunch of SCRUNTS!!
The left self-immolating, yummy....
The world truly has turned upside down when we let an organization dictate to a federally funded program!
What am I sayin'????????
Pull the funding from these pukes! Not only are they takin' money from the world's biggest leftist, Soros, they are lettin' an outside political organization, hell bent on destroying our way of life, dictate what they do!
WTF is wrong with our government?????????
Already one Repub has stood up and called for their defunding! Ya think anyone else will have the balls????
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The world truly has turned upside down when we let an organization dictate to a federally funded program!
What am I sayin'????????
Pull the funding from these pukes! Not only are they takin' money from the world's biggest leftist, Soros, they are lettin' an outside political organization, hell bent on destroying our way of life, dictate what they do!
WTF is wrong with our government?????????
Already one Repub has stood up and called for their defunding! Ya think anyone else will have the balls????
Pull funding from NPR? Ain't gonna happen -- ever.
NPR, like tons and tons of other government-supported programs, has wormed its way into American culture to the point that cutting it is unthinkable. We have allowed our Congress-shits to throw money at all manner of programs and have convinced ourselves that we just can't live without Bob Edwards (even though he's retired) and "All Things Considered".
The thing that offends the hell out of me is when I happen to be radio-surfing and I hear the local NPR station begging for money.
Asshats. :bird:
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The left is becoming more aggressive at shutting down free speech, this is only one instance. Take a look at George S. and his manipulation of the media.
Just this week, Mark Steyn's appearance in London, Ontario was cancelled because of Muslim complaints, then there's the U.S. org. Avaaz attempting to shut down a proposed conservative news channel, the march against opposing dissent is chilling.
Is there an area here for links and articles exposing the left wing attacks on free speech and intolerance towards opposing views ?
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I miss Fox, but this new Juan Williams News Channel isn't bad.
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NPR CEO: Juan Williams’ Views Should Stay Between Himself And “His Psychiatristâ€
What's her DU name?
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The following is an internal memo sent on behalf of NPR President and CEO Vivian Schiller:
Dear AREPS,
Thank you for all of your varying feedback on the Juan Williams situation. Let me offer some further clarification about why we terminated his contract early.
First, a critical distinction has been lost in this debate. NPR News analysts have a distinctive role and set of responsibilities. This is a very different role than that of a commentator or columnist. News analysts may not take personal public positions on controversial issues; doing so undermines their credibility as analysts, and that’s what’s happened in this situation. As you all well know, we offer views of all kinds on your air every day, but those views are expressed by those we interview – not our reporters and analysts.
Second, this isn’t the first time we have had serious concerns about some of Juan’s public comments. Despite many conversations and warnings over the years, Juan has continued to violate this principal.
Third, these specific comments (and others made in the past), are inconsistent with NPR’s ethics code, which applies to all journalists (including contracted analysts):
“In appearing on TV or other media . . . NPR journalists should not express views they would not air in their role as an NPR journalist. They should not participate in shows . . . that encourage punditry and speculation rather than fact-based analysis.â€
More fundamentally, “In appearing on TV or other media including electronic Web-based forums, NPR journalists should not express views they would not air in their role as an NPR journalist.â€
Unfortunately, Juan’s comments on Fox violated our standards as well as our values and offended many in doing so.
We’re profoundly sorry that this happened during fundraising week. Juan’s comments were made Monday night and we did not feel it would be responsible to delay this action.
This was a tough decision and we appreciate your support.
Thanks,
Vivian
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/21/raw-data-npr-internal-memo-juan-williams/
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Unfortunately, Juan’s comments on Fox violated our standards as well as our values and offended many in doing so.
Oh really?
I think [Sen. Jesse Helms] ought to be worried about what's going on in the Good Lord's mind, because if there is retributive justice, he'll get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it.
- Nina Totenberg
"The evaporation of four million people who believe this crap [the Rapture] would leave the world an instantly better place."
- Andre Codrescu
I think there's a big difference when people told Father Aristide to sort of moderate his views, they were concerned about people being dragged through the streets, killed and necklaced. I don't think that is what Newt Gingrich has in mind. I think he's looking at a more scientific, a more civil way of lynching people.
- Sunni Khalid
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/10/21/nprs-glaring-double-standards-beg-question-juan-williams-next-shirle
All three quotes come from NPR journalists. None were fired or reprimanded for their iffensive coments that SHOULD violate any news organizations "standards as well as our values"
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Still no admission that CAIR demanded appropriate action, which is a thinly-veiled insistance that Williams be fired.
Asshat. :loser:
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A news analyst can not analyse the news without some personal beliefs helping to form that analysis. The bitch is just trying to cover her ass.
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A news analyst can not analyse the news without some personal beliefs helping to form that analysis. The bitch is just trying to cover her ass.
I think it's more that we're seeing that they truly hate any form of thought other than Liberal/DU echo chamber stuff. We like to think that only DU has these crazy "one point of view" beliefs and that no one outside the DUmp...certianly not in any positions of power would believe that crap.
That is until you read this part of Juan's Op/Ed on the FNC website:
This self-reverential attitude was on display several years ago when NPR asked me to help them get an interview with President George W. Bush. I have longstanding relationships with some of the key players in his White House due to my years as a political writer at The Washington Post.
Later on the 50th anniversary of the Little Rock crisis President Bush offered to do an NPR interview with me about race relations in America. NPR management refused to take the interview on the grounds that the White House offered it to me and not their other correspondents and hosts. One NPR executive implied I was in the administration’s pocket, which is a joke, and there was no other reason to offer me the interview. Gee, I guess NPR news executives never read my bestselling history of the civil rights movement “Eyes on the Prize – America’s Civil Rights Years,†or my highly acclaimed biography “Thurgood Marshall –American Revolutionary.†I guess they never noticed that "ENOUGH," my last book on the state of black leadership in America, found a place on the New York Times bestseller list.
This all led to NPR demanding that I either agree to let them control my appearances on Fox News and my writings or sign a new contract that removed me from their staff but allowed me to continue working as a news analyst with an office at NPR. The idea was that they would be insulated against anything I said or wrote outside of NPR because they could say that I was not a staff member. What happened is that they immediately began to cut my salary and diminish my on-air role. This week when I pointed out that they had forced me to sign a contract that gave them distance from my commentary outside of NPR I was cut off, ignored and fired.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/10/21/juan-williams-npr-fired-truth-muslim-garb-airplane-oreilly-ellen-weiss-bush/
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-- Last week, Newsbusters, a conservative media watchdog group, claimed that NPR's "Fresh Air" spent most of its hour insinuating that the Republican Party was dangerously infested with extremists.
NPR's Terry Gross hosted Princeton professor Sean Wilentz, who has written that President George W. Bush practiced "a radicalized version of Reaganism," Newsbusters' Tom Graham wrote.
"Can you think of another time in American history when there have been as many people running for Congress who seem to be on the extreme?" Gross asked, according to Graham.
"Not running for Congress, no," Wilentz replied. "I mean even back in the '50s."
-- NPR issued an apology in 2005 for a commentator's remark on the return of Christ following a complaint by the Christian Coalition that the comment was anti-Christian.
On "All Things Considered," the network's afternoon drive-time program, humorist Andrei Codrescu said that the "evaporation of 4 million [people] who believe" in the doctrine of Rapture "would leave the world a better place."
Codrescu, who was on contract with NPR but not a full-time employee, later told The Associated Press he was sorry for the language, but "not for what [he] said."
NPR apologized for the comment, saying, it "crossed a line of taste and tolerance" and was an inappropriate attempt at humor.
-- Also in 2005, NPR apologized to Mark Levin, author of "Men in Black: How the Supreme Court is Destroying America," after a broadcast of its program "Day to Day" falsely accused him of advocating violence against judges. Levin accepted the apology, but said the broadcast was "illustrative of a smear campaign launched by the Left to try and silence" his criticisms of judicial activism.
-- In 2002, the head of NPR issued an apology six months after a report linking anthrax-laced letters to a Christian conservative organization.
-- Also in 2002, during an interview with the Philadelphia City Paper, NPR host Tavis Smiley said he strived to do a show that is "authentically black," but not "too black."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/21/brief-history-nprs-intolerance-imbalance/?cmpid=prn_baynote-js_A_Brief_History_of_NPRs_Intolerance_and_Imbalance
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I don't think this is really about juan williams. I don't even think it's ultimately about the liberal fascists at NPR. I think it's about the jihad that the obama administration declared on fox news last october. fox news has obviously gotten in the heads of the President himself, and all of his minions. it was absolutely (to borrow the President's favorite word) "unprecedented" for the white house to officially declare open hostilities against a news organization. and it was an official act; it wasn't just that hack axelrod that questioned their honesty and integrity, it was chief of staff rahm emanuel and white house communications director anita dunn, and even the President himself.
"the fish rots from the top", michael dukakis famously said. the Holy Obamites set the tone, encouraged hostilities, declared them to be partisan head hunters, and declared open season in them. this warped even further the already twisted minds on the extreme left and the in the halls of the MSM. it was enabling behavior. think about it; the President of the United States of America is saying crap in public that, as recently as 4 or 5 years ago, was only spoken by the whackos at places like DU.
the President's attack on fox was a declaration of war on free speech; the juan williams episode is just a battle in that war. and it was unspoken encouragement to his followers to give word and deed to the most irrational paranoid impulses of the liberal mind.
that is what happened yesterday. there is more going here than just juan williams. the paranoid obamite impulse is eroding our individual liberties.
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Interesting observation, WE. Definitely food for thought and I tend to agree that you're correct.
But it's difficult to connect the dots between Fox and Williams except to the point that Williams made his comment on O'Reilly's show.
If Obama is waging jihad on Fox, it seems to me all he accomplished was to put all this drama between Williams and NPR out there in the open where the bad guy - NPR - is being tried, judged, and executed in the court of public opinion.
So is Obama actually limiting our liberties? Not so much in this case - Williams has been all over TV-land and the innerwebz of late - and, as his op-ed indicates, there is definitely evidence as to the left-wind bias that NPR has -- which has never been a secret anyway.
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I'm surprised the President hasn't actually commented on this yet.
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Interesting observation, WE. Definitely food for thought and I tend to agree that you're correct.
But it's difficult to connect the dots between Fox and Williams except to the point that Williams made his comment on O'Reilly's show.
If Obama is waging jihad on Fox, it seems to me all he accomplished was to put all this drama between Williams and NPR out there in the open where the bad guy - NPR - is being tried, judged, and executed in the court of public opinion.
So is Obama actually limiting our liberties? Not so much in this case - Williams has been all over TV-land and the innerwebz of late - and, as his op-ed indicates, there is definitely evidence as to the left-wind bias that NPR has -- which has never been a secret anyway.
being on the o'reilly show was williams' only offense. that is the whole point. and for it, the paranoid environment that obama has created made it possible for the loonier loonies at NPR to cut his head off. this was a message that was sent to the followers and fellow travelers; isolate fox news. do not participate. don't even give them a chance to appear balanced. I have heard much the same indirect threats against liasson and beckel. (not so much colmes; he's rather insignificant)
the liberals are always blathering about the unintentional "chilling effect" of various actions or decisions. my argument is that this is a message sent sent to the followers with the intention of having a "chilling effect". the fact that it is boomeranging on them doesn't not wipe the villainy nor immorality of the thing from them; it just means they are incompetent at this, too.
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Will Mara Liasson be the next target for NPR or would it be too obvious?
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I'm surprised the President hasn't actually commented on this yet.
that's probably because the fawning press hasn't asked the question. they are afraid of exposing their collusion with this white house. he doesn't have to answer questions that aren't asked.
he seems to have learned his lesson about just volunteering His Holy Opinion on topics just because the uneducated masses (a.k.a., the american people) are deceived, deluded, and ignorant without His guidance. I am sure it kills him to not expound endlessly on every topic under the sun, but he did blow himself up a few times speaking out about things that just weren't necessary -- at least right then.
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oh, and the fact that juan got axed immediately after o'reilly spectacularly transgressed against Teh Messiah's chosen people, i.e., muslims, on that dreary liberal chick show is NOT mere coincidence. it is, in fact, probably the spark that lit the fuse.
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oh, and the fact that juan got axed immediately after o'reilly spectacularly transgressed against Teh Messiah's chosen people, i.e., muslims, on that dreary liberal chick show is NOT mere coincidence. it is, in fact, probably the spark that lit the fuse.
And Soros had donated $1.8 million for hiring new journalists just before the firing.
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oh, and the fact that juan got axed immediately after o'reilly spectacularly transgressed against Teh Messiah's chosen people, i.e., muslims, on that dreary liberal chick show is NOT mere coincidence. it is, in fact, probably the spark that lit the fuse.
No kiddin'! Where the hell is the call for WhooptyDoo's and BayWhore's resignation for their complete unprofessional antics at "The View"? Ya think either one of these "babes", ( and I use that term loosely ), would even entertain the thought of goin' on FOX and debating an issue? O'Reilly manned up and took them on in their own den, so to speak!
Since when is that sort of behavior encouraged on a National TV show? It's downright embarrassing! What must the rest of the world think when the most powerful nation the planet has ever experienced, acts like 5 year olds throwing a fit, then taking their ball and goin' home?
Classless c...ts! Sorry to our lady fair here, but I just can't think of any other adjective to describe my contempt for those two!
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Will Mara Liasson be the next target for NPR or would it be too obvious?
Yes, the 'tolerant' left wants her fired too.
http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/21/liberal-group-zeros-in-on-next-target-npr-correspondent-and-fox-news-contributor-mara-liasson/#ixzz131k0TIOb
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Yes, the 'tolerant' left wants her fired too.
http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/21/liberal-group-zeros-in-on-next-target-npr-correspondent-and-fox-news-contributor-mara-liasson/#ixzz131k0TIOb
LOL. 2009. george bush was president from 2000-2008. it was okay to dump on the white house then. :whatever: but the second the liberal's Blessed Holy One ascended into heaven, the rules changed. and you will notice that it wasn't far into Teh Messiah's reign that it became a violation of journalistic ethics to question His Holy Policies.
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The left is becoming more aggressive at shutting down free speech, this is only one instance. Take a look at George S. and his manipulation of the media.
Just this week, Mark Steyn's appearance in London, Ontario was cancelled because of Muslim complaints, then there's the U.S. org. Avaaz attempting to shut down a proposed conservative news channel, the march against opposing dissent is chilling.
Is there an area here for links and articles exposing the left wing attacks on free speech and intolerance towards opposing views ?
So called 'progressivism' is so full of self-contradictions and pseudo-science that they would have nothing without suppression of free speech.
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LOL. 2009. george bush was president from 2000-2008. it was okay to dump on the white house then. :whatever: but the second the liberal's Blessed Holy One ascended into heaven, the rules changed. and you will notice that it wasn't far into Teh Messiah's reign that it became a violation of journalistic ethics to question His Holy Policies.
Yep. The people who said 'Dissent Is Patriotic' when George W. Bush was president are now crushing dissent.
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Juan Williams is sitting in for O'reilly tonight. I wonder if this was scheduled or if they are just taking advantage of this controversy. Bill does take a lot of Fridays off, so it could have been planned.
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Juan Williams is sitting in for O'reilly tonight. I wonder if this was scheduled or if they are just taking advantage of this controversy. Bill does take a lot of Fridays off, so it could have been planned.
it's probably a combination of things. first, it's just good business. juan will attract more eyes right now than he ever will, and more than anyone else in mediadom could right now. and, whatever else fox news channel is, it's well run; he needs to start earnin' that $2M. :-)
but mostly they are just rubbing it in. :fuelfire:
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it's probably a combination of things. first, it's just good business. juan will attract more eyes right now than he ever will, and more than anyone else in mediadom could right now. and, whatever else fox news channel is, it's well run; he needs to start earnin' that $2M. :-)
but mostly they are just rubbing it in. :fuelfire:
He takes O'Reilly's place about once a month, if not more often. Seems to switch mostly between him and Laura Ingraham.
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He takes O'Reilly's place about once a month, if not more often. Seems to switch mostly between him and Laura Ingraham.
And the judge.
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it's probably a combination of things. first, it's just good business. juan will attract more eyes right now than he ever will, and more than anyone else in mediadom could right now. and, whatever else fox news channel is, it's well run; he needs to start earnin' that $2M. :-)
but mostly they are just rubbing it in. :fuelfire:
HA HA! Good! :cheersmate:
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Juan Williams is sitting in for O'reilly tonight. I wonder if this was scheduled or if they are just taking advantage of this controversy. Bill does take a lot of Fridays off, so it could have been planned.
Hmmmmmmmm, I wonder if the "twat" that wished AIDS on him and or his son has the guts to say that on air to his face?????
Wouldn't that make a fantastic show!!!!!!!!!!
hehehehehehe!!!
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I'm (sort of) watching juan on the o'reilly show right now. that is one pissed off liberal. he is taking NPR to the woodshed. :lmao:
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I'm (sort of) watching juan on the o'reilly show right now. that is one pissed off liberal. he is taking NPR to the woodshed. :lmao:
Damn it! I figured he'd leave it alone since it's O'Reilly's show! I'll have to watch it on the backside later tonight when they re-run it!
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Damn it! I figured he'd leave it alone since it's O'Reilly's show! I'll have to watch it on the backside later tonight when they re-run it!
they are going to rerun the show where BOR said, "I've got your back, Williams", tomorrow and Sunday. I missed that one (quite frankly, I find BOR self absorbed and tedious at times), but I have read that Juan was quite affected by BOR's support.
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Can he sue to get his job back?
Why bother? Fox News hired him at 2 million!
:tongue:
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I'm (sort of) watching juan on the o'reilly show right now. that is one pissed off liberal. he is taking NPR to the woodshed. :lmao:
:rotf: :tongue:
Good! I recorded it and will watch later. He sure god a bad rap.
He always seemed like an extreme liberal before this. I really don't know his stance since.
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:rotf: :tongue:
Good! I recorded it and will watch later. He sure god a bad rap.
He always seemed like an extreme liberal before this. I really don't know his stance since.
he is still a liberal. :mental:
but he is a pissed off liberal, and, as we all know, that is a form of life that you just don't want to be around. :-)
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I'm watching the rerun of it now....
Juan is seriously pissed....he's citing things on NPR that are acceptable.....they are all slams against the Tea Party and GOP. Good for him!!
Maybe all this will wake up some liberals and make them realize that things are not as they have been seeing them.
Maybe....
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I'm watching the rerun of it now....
Juan is seriously pissed....he's citing things on NPR that are acceptable.....they are all slams against the Tea Party and GOP. Good for him!!
Maybe all this will wake up some liberals and make them realize that things are not as they have been seeing them.
Maybe....
I'm watchin' it too! he sounded a lot more conservative than he did yesterday!!!!! hehehehe
Amazing what happens when you get treated like the rest of us!
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there is nothing more dangerous than a pissed off liberal. :-)
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I'm surprised the President hasn't actually commented on this yet.
Soros probably hasn't given him permission to speak on the issue yet. Besides, what the MSM says is basically what the WH wants put out anyway.
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Per a PM conversation I had with WE, a message I sent to him. He suggested I share it.
I think Juan Williams is merely a casualty in a greater war that the left is now being caught in. They know we're paying attention. The left loved to bitch about the "chill wind" but funny how you don't hear those voices bitching any longer.
We caught them, and they'll try to play it off. The reason the WH isn't yet commenting is because they agree with the media elites, sharing the same philosophy. But they can't put themselves out there to actually say it, lest the electorate has yet another reason to throw the liberals out on their asses.
NPR is viewed as an outlier because they may not get the same listeners as the networks. But if the average American knew the disdain with which the mainstream networks view them, which is likely little to no different than the attitudes NPR has recently expressed, it would likely spell the end of the media as we currently know it.
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he has an outstanding point, and it has a perspective that we have not discussed.
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HEY NPR .... :bird:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120344047
OPINION: 'Learn To Speak Tea Bag'
New Animation From Independent Syndicated Columnist Mark Fiore
by Mark Fiore.......
From Nov 2009, and it appears the comments are pretty much up-to-date :-)
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I'm loving that he's so pissed off and clued in. Here's to hoping that he'll sue the government funding off of NPR :cheersmate:
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they are going to rerun the show where BOR said, "I've got your back, Williams", tomorrow and Sunday. I missed that one (quite frankly, I find BOR self absorbed and tedious at times), but I have read that Juan was quite affected by BOR's support.
I was watching when it aired. He was both furious earlier in the interview--I mean his facial expressions were close to murderous--and when O'Reilly said this, you could see a film of tears in his eyes.
I would just hope they (the other analysts) let it drop after Chris Wallace held his arm and said "you're among friends" on the FNS panel this weekend. It's enough already. It's starting to become over-the-top touchy-feely and maudlin. I've never liked Juan Williams--he has said AWFUL, vicious things about conservatives and the Tea Party movement particularly--but assuming most of his Fox coworkers really do like him, the best thing they can do for him--and the viwers--is allow matters to return to normal at Fox and stop with the comfort--$2 million over 3 years is puh-lenty of comfort. And that's just his NewsCorp income, never mind books, speaking engagements, etc.
We CAN hope Williams learns something about media bias, at least, from this experience, and about the rabid, Stalinist, hateful intolerance of the left, but really, it's time for the lovefest to end.
The NPR story, of course, should continue to be followed. This is about THEM now, not Williams.
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I was watching when it aired. He was both furious earlier in the interview--I mean his facial expressions were close to murderous--and when O'Reilly said this, you could see a film of tears in his eyes.
I would just hope they (the other analysts) let it drop after Chris Wallace held his arm and said "you're among friends" on the FNS panel this weekend. It's enough already. It's starting to become over-the-top touchy-feely and maudlin. I've never liked Juan Williams--he has said AWFUL, vicious things about conservatives and the Tea Party movement particularly--but assuming most of his Fox coworkers really do like him, the best thing they can do for him--and the viwers--is allow matters to return to normal at Fox and stop with the comfort--$2 million over 3 years is puh-lenty of comfort. And that's just his NewsCorp income, never mind books, speaking engagements, etc.
We CAN hope Williams learns something about media bias, at least, from this experience, and about the rabid, Stalinist, hateful intolerance of the left, but really, it's time for the lovefest to end.
The NPR story, of course, should continue to be followed. This is about THEM now, not Williams.
Completely agree. I don't watch a lot of ANY TV whatsoever, including cable news, but the little bit I watched after this thing happened was over the top.
How many different ways can they present ANY story like this? This is one of the reasons I don't do a lot of cable news/TV - overexposure of any story. And the never-ending commercials, of course.
Anyway, Godot is steel on target (+1) with this. Enough already. Let's focus on the REAL issue - NPR and state-run radio.
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Interesting to watch as the Left turns on and consumes its own!
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Interesting to watch as the Left turns on and consumes its own!
I think this is one of the reasons that this continues to be news - at least on Fox.
It's a week before the election and frankly, what better time for this (the firing and the reasons behind it) to have happened?
Obama is going around the country saying how awful the conservatives/tea partiers are, that we are ignorant of what's going on in the country, that we are close-minded, etc...while the liberals are oh so wonderful.
Juan Williams is guilty of coming out publicly on tv saying he gets nervous when he sees Muslims in full Muslim garb in an airport.
Well, you know what, so am I!! So are my family members and friends. I think that most Americans - when they go into an airport anywhere in this country or a foreign country - will scope out the other travelers in the airport and in particular those that are getting on their flight. Whether they want to admit it, even to themselves...they do it.
It bugs the crap out of me, that I get pulled over going through security because I "supposedly" trip the alarm and I end up getting wanded and felt up by some female TSA person like I'm a common criminal....while another passenger of obvious Middle Eastern heritage...waltzes right security because the federal government, the airlines, the airport, TSA's are too damn scared of being accused of racial profiling!!! It's bullshit!
Don't get me wrong...I don't object to being pulled over.... I have nothing to hide. But I do object to Middle Easterners given a free pass through security! For those of you who frequently fly or have flown several times since 9/11....how many times have you ever seen a person of Middle Eastern heritage or resembling a Middle Easterner, ever pulled over in security? Since 9/11, I have gone to Europe 5 times, St Croix twice, and flown to the West Coast 3 or 4 times, several trips to Chicago, north to Maine, and too many to count to Florida. All of these flights required passing through security - those out of the continental US - not only airport security but customs - foreign and US. Not one time - NOT ONCE!! - have I ever seen a Middle Easterner pulled over.
I stood in LaGuardia, waiting to get through US Customs, after coming off of an international flight from Greece, surrounded by a flippin' plane load of passengers from the Mid East....all the women shrouded and herding kids, and the men looking arrogant, bored, and impatient. I was travelling with 3 other women, we were beside ourselves because our flight from Greece was so late in arrival, we were afraid of missing our connection to get home...we got pulled out of line by a Customs official. They asked us where we were going, wanted to see our tickets, searched through our stuff, and let us go on. Now maybe, they were being nice to us, and just wanted to get us out of there.....but they still searched our backpacks. 4 American women - 3 in their 50's and 1 in her 40's, 2 very very fair skinned blondes, a redhead, and one with highlighted brown air (who happens to be the 2nd highest woman working for TVA with a top security clearance!)....was Customs trying to look fair and balanced by seaching our stuff? While we were in line, I didn't see any of the MidEasterners pulled over and having their bags searched.
Sorry for the rant....but rather than acknowledging that American people do fear Muslims - fair or not, though it is a justifiable fear - the political correctness that seems to be paramount in every aspect of our lives these days, is going to get more Americans killed. Those with power and position behind them, keep punishing those who express their fear....using them as an example of behavior that is unacceptable!! When will it stop? When the Muslim terrorists come for those in power? Or will those in power simply hand of the keys of our kingdom and accept the power of Islam?
Maybe with all the publicity about this, some Democrats might rethink their affliation with a party that may "talk the talk, but can't do the walk"....
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:yeahthat:
Or will those in power simply hand of the keys of our kingdom and accept the power of Islam?
That's already happening in the U.K., deb. There are a few pockets of resistance, but the overall sentiment is to avoid offending muzzies because offending them makes us look like we're intolerant, unkind, and unChristian.
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I stood in LaGuardia, waiting to get through US Customs, after coming off of an international flight from Greece, surrounded by a flippin' plane load of passengers from the Mid East....all the women shrouded and herding kids, and the men looking arrogant, bored, and impatient. I was travelling with 3 other women, we were beside ourselves because our flight from Greece was so late in arrival, we were afraid of missing our connection to get home...we got pulled out of line by a Customs official. They asked us where we were going, wanted to see our tickets, searched through our stuff, and let us go on. Now maybe, they were being nice to us, and just wanted to get us out of there.....but they still searched our backpacks. 4 American women - 3 in their 50's and 1 in her 40's, 2 very very fair skinned blondes, a redhead, and one with highlighted brown air (who happens to be the 2nd highest woman working for TVA with a top security clearance!)....was Customs trying to look fair and balanced by seaching our stuff? While we were in line, I didn't see any of the MidEasterners pulled over and having their bags searched.
I have a hunch it’s gone well beyond that, Debk. I think the post-9/11 security measures are changing under Obama from a stupid system for annoying people and moronically proving your PC bona fides by not profiling the obvious, into a means for deliberately harassing Caucasians.
I’d suggest that next time you fly, also keep an eye out for black or Hispanic people ever being pulled out of line. If I’m right, you won’t see that, either.
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No need to apologize. That was well said.
The elitists are desperate to maintain their foolish image that all cultures are equal because it gives them an excuse to silence dissent (at least in their mind but they do not like the constitution). They probably believe appeasement (allowing security to be bypassed etc) will spare them from terrorism.
Giving Adolf Hitler the Sudetinland saved Poland from being invaded too :sarcasm:
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I have a hunch it’s gone well beyond that, Debk. I think the post-9/11 security measures are changing under Obama from a stupid system for annoying people and moronically proving your PC bona fides by not profiling the obvious, into a means for deliberately harassing Caucasians.
I’d suggest that next time you fly, also keep an eye out for black or Hispanic people ever being pulled out of line. If I’m right, you won’t see that, either.
I just got back from St Croix last Wednesday. We had flown out the previous Wednesday. For the first time in I don't know how long, I did not set off the "beep" going through security - going to or coming back!! The only thing that happened, was that I had purchased an aerosol can of Tinactin for M, a couple of days before, and he stuck it in his carryon, and TSA was not happy about it! They did let it go through, when I said that I was the one that packed it and just didn't think. The guy - though a couple of "leading" questions, got M to say that it was "doctor prescribed"...and I said, that should probably be in our checked bag when we return, huh? He looked at me, and said I was quite perceptive and winked. I was not paying attention to see if anyone else was pulled over, there was quite a line.
We were to be at the STX airport, 2hrs ahead....and after not getting through 2 years ago when we were 2 hrs ahead, we got there a bit earlier this time, no one was there and we breezed through the whole thing. Don't know what happened after.
We do not have much of a black or Hispanic population here, which makes it difficult to prove or disprove your theory. Someone else might be able to answer your question better. I can only tell you that the walk-thru thingamajig has a thing for redheads. :thatsright:
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I can only tell you that the walk-thru thingamajig has a thing for redheads. :thatsright:
Well, you are an electrically-charged sorta gal, deb. ;) :-*