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Title: Cubs hire yet another losing manager (Quade gets two-year deal to manage Cubs)
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 19, 2010, 11:19:34 AM
Manager Mike Quade and the Cubs have agreed on a two-year contract with a club option for the 2013 season, the team announced. The two sides finalized the deal and a news conference is set for 3 p.m. Tuesday.

Quade became the 51st manager in franchise history when replaced Lou Piniella on Aug. 23.

The Cubs reportedly also were considering Yankees manager Joe Girardi and Hall of Famer Ryne Sandberg.

LINK (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/10/quade-gets-two-year-deal-to-manage-cubs.html)
Title: Re: Cubs hire yet another losing manager (Quade gets two-year deal to manage Cubs)
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 19, 2010, 11:28:41 AM
I figured they would have hired sandberg just through sheer organizational iniertia . . . would girardi have left the yankees?  that one sounds far fetched.
Title: Re: Cubs hire yet another losing manager (Quade gets two-year deal to manage Cubs)
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 19, 2010, 11:32:24 AM
Quade isn't a bad choice.  He's been in the organization for a while and knows the players.

Sandberg was publicly campaigning for the job, which I have heard didn't sit well with the new owners and the GM.

I think the Cubs would have like to have waited for Girardi, as he's a former Cub & Northwestern grad.  I think they would have opened up the bank for him, although I'm not totally sure he would have been worth it.
Title: Re: Cubs hire yet another losing manager (Quade gets two-year deal to manage Cubs)
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 19, 2010, 11:46:03 AM
I had actually been keeping up with this a bit, since the cubs got my favorite kid (blake dewitt) from the dodgers in the lilly/theriot deal. 

in the grand scheme of things (and with a few exceptions), I think managers may be only slightly less overrated than closers . . . although I admit that knowing torre (definitely one of those exceptions) was in the dugout was quite a comforting thought.  in donnie baseball's two temporary stints as LA's manager, he filled out the lineup card wrong in ST (torre was in taiwan) and caused the batters to bat out of order (how embarrassing is that), and did a double take on the mound (torre had been ejected), and got his pitcher pulled (which was actually an error on the part of the umpires) in the 9th . . . so we will see how that one goes.

personally, I think the dodgers should make jamie mccourt's divorce attorney the manager.  he is already the GM.


 
Title: Re: Cubs hire yet another losing manager (Quade gets two-year deal to manage Cubs)
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 19, 2010, 11:54:36 AM
I remember reading that about Mattingly.  Kind of embarrassing stuff.
Title: Re: Cubs hire yet another losing manager (Quade gets two-year deal to manage Cubs)
Post by: cavegal on October 19, 2010, 12:13:40 PM
I had actually been keeping up with this a bit, since the cubs got my favorite kid (blake dewitt) from the dodgers in the lilly/theriot deal. 

in the grand scheme of things (and with a few exceptions), I think managers may be only slightly less overrated than closers . . . although I admit that knowing torre (definitely one of those exceptions) was in the dugout was quite a comforting thought.  in donnie baseball's two temporary stints as LA's manager, he filled out the lineup card wrong in ST (torre was in taiwan) and caused the batters to bat out of order (how embarrassing is that), and did a double take on the mound (torre had been ejected), and got his pitcher pulled (which was actually an error on the part of the umpires) in the 9th . . . so we will see how that one goes.

personally, I think the dodgers should make jamie mccourt's divorce attorney the manager.  he is already the GM.


 
Are the mccourts still in court? John and Ken kfi had been talking about it. nothing lately.  Did they reach a settlement?
Title: Re: Cubs hire yet another losing manager (Quade gets two-year deal to manage Cubs)
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 19, 2010, 12:16:14 PM
Are the mccourts still in court? John and Ken kfi had been talking about it. nothing lately.  Did they reach a settlement?

It's going to be going on for a while yet.  Wretch might know more information.
Title: Re: Cubs hire yet another losing manager (Quade gets two-year deal to manage Cubs)
Post by: Wretched Excess on October 19, 2010, 12:56:35 PM
Are the mccourts still in court? John and Ken kfi had been talking about it. nothing lately.  Did they reach a settlement?

the last pleadings are today, as a matter of fact.  the cliff's notes version:  there are two versions of the pre-nep;  one specifically included her as co-owner of the dodgers, the other specifically excludes her.  BOTH copies are signed and notarized.  who knows how that happened, but it looks almost like a coin toss.  either there was a clerical error, or someone has committed a felony.  there were whispers that they would try to settle after the trial, but before the judge's ruling, but I haven't heard that lately.

CA is a community property state;  the owner of the padres had to sell his team rather recently to pay off his wife in his divorce settlement;  I don't see how confusion over the pre-nep is going to save frank.

dodgers fans (or perhaps just this one) are hoping that jamie wins, so that was frank has to sell, and the team isn't saddled with hundreds of millions of dollars of additional debt that frank had to incur to pay off his estranged wife.  plus, we discovered in the financial disclosure documents that he has taken out 10s of millions of dollars in loans using dodger property as collateral.  he is probably the most unpopular person in southern california right now.