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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: zeitgeist on October 12, 2010, 05:20:46 PM
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Welcome back Carter. Now all we need is for the Fed to get interest rates moving up. Dummies as always are clue-less.
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Newsjock (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-11-10 11:56 PM
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Corn crunch means costliest beef since 1980s
Source: Bloomberg News
Meat prices are poised to extend a 14 percent rally this year that drove U.S. retail costs to the highest levels since the 1980s as surging corn futures prevent livestock producers from expanding their herds.
The U.S. cattle herd in July was the smallest since 1973 and the number of breeding hogs last month was near the lowest ever, government data show.
Corn futures jumped to a two-year high Monday and the price of the main feed ingredient is more than 70 percent above the 10-year average.
... On Monday, corn soared 45 cents, the most allowed by the Chicago Board of Trade, to reach $5.7325 a bushel, the highest level since September 2008.
Read more: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnolog...
frazzled (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-12-10 12:04 AM
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1. Buy grass-fed beef?
I kind of joke here. But I've noticed the grass-fed beef on sale a lot recently. I actually have to admit I don't care for it: it has a sour kind of taste, and a different texture. Perhaps it's something I'd get used to over time. In the meantime, the other week I passed up the on-sale grass-fed ground beef for the regular ground sirloin (which was actually a bit more pricey, but hey, we were only buying 2/3 of a pound).
Whaaa?
hedgehog (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-12-10 10:52 AM
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28. If it's not too personal a question, how old are you? Were you raised on corn fed beef?
I've been tracking down free range chicken, grass fed beef and pork lately. I find the corn fed stuff in the grocery store flavorless. The organic stuff tastes like the beef, pork and chicken I remember from years ago. It may be that you've become accustomed to factory beef and organic beef is just too rich for your taste. I'd say organic beef has a touch of the gamey flavor associated with venison. Not everyone likes it.
Ah ha.
Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-12-10 12:09 AM
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4. Grass-fed is the absolute best. 38 million Argentines can't be wrong.
Ok I still love "Don't Cry for Me Argentina"
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4oPWINVVEw&feature=related[/youtube]
We now return to our posts
Javaman (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-12-10 09:30 AM
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22. What you are tasting is the "gamey" flavor...
Not all grass-fed beef has that flavor.
I buy from two different grass-fed beef ranchers here in Austin.
One is very gamey the other is not.
It has a lot to do with the type of steer they are raising. The non-gamey tasting beef is mostly of the Angus variety.
By the way, you will get that same gamey taste with deer, hog, etc (anything that is hunted)
Gamey lot over there. :fuelfire:
Yeshuah Ben Joseph (288 posts) Tue Oct-12-10 12:26 AM
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7. Maybe now they can stop putting GMO corn in everything
cows included. Take My word for it, they weren't designed to be corn eaters. Nor were humans, and everyone who has ever looked in the toilet the morning after they ate corn knows this to be true.
And stool curious too I guess. :o
skoalyman (668 posts) Tue Oct-12-10 05:58 PM
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35. in a couple more years it will be beef for the rich
and Soylent Green for us peeons
Welcome to life in Obama's New Amerika. How's that hope an change working for ya now dummies??
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Good thing there is no COLA for SS. Welcome to Obama's America.
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I don't suppose all that corn going to make ethanol has anything to do with the price of corn going up, does it?
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I've proabably got a year's worth of meat in the freezer, and deer season's coming up.
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What's the big deal? I was raised on grass fed beef. We put up the steer, bull, hiefer we were goig to kill for a week or 10 days to make sure to get the "bitter weed" taste out of them. Other than a little sweet feed, good hay and clean water for that week or so that's all the special feeding they got.
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I wonder how these idiots would like the raw milk we used to have from the first week of spring pasture. :fuelfire:
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Corn fed beef all the way baby.
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I spent the extra money on grass-fed (actually grass-finished) beef one time. Waste of money. If you want something different, try lamb or bison.
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I wonder how these idiots would like the raw milk we used to have from the first week of spring pasture. :fuelfire:
Raw milk and fresh eggs = cream puffs when I was a kid. I was never a fan of warm raw milk strained through cheese cloth, cooled on ice, in a pitcher, on the table; but, when that was what was served, that is what you drank. Things that were corn fed usually got through a hole in a fence. :tongue:
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I wonder how these idiots would like the raw milk we used to have from the first week of spring pasture. :fuelfire:
It would kill 'em.....especial if the old milk cow had gotten into the bitter weeds.
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I've proabably got a year's worth of meat in the freezer, and deer season's coming up.
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Got a slight overpopulation of whitetails in OK right now, too. Looked at the game trails via the dirt bike at the homestead last week and they are pretty trampled. Saw beaucoup tracks around the ponds. Sucks to be a apartment-dwelling DUmmy, I guess.
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skoalyman (668 posts) Tue Oct-12-10 05:58 PM
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35. in a couple more years it will be beef for the rich
and Soylent Green for us peeons
No. At the first sign of illness the Obamacare Death Panels will order you to go on Carousel.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/ColonialMarine/Logans%20Run/carousel.jpg)
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Got a slight overpopulation of whitetails in OK right now, too. Looked at the game trails via the dirt bike at the homestead last week and they are pretty trampled. Saw beaucoup tracks around the ponds. Sucks to be a apartment-dwelling DUmmy, I guess.
Hated to do it but I just today turned my property over the Department of Natural Resources (Game Wardens). Deer season came today but I've already found 3 deer shot and left laying. One down on the creek about 3 weeks ago with the antlers sawed off. 2 does dead near the road 2 weeks ago. People have been trespassing on my property for years and I have finally had my fill. One foot over my property line will cost you $1,000 and your car/truck/weapon if that is with you.....and what makes it sweet is I don't have to press charges, they do it and it's all out of my hands.
20 years ago there was a 12 point holding first place in the state record book that a fellow I know killed. That record is now in second place.....just found out last year that that deer was spotlighted on my place.....but was recorded as being killed some where else at a proper time. That was the dude that drove his pickup all through the corn field just before harvest time....I wish I had known then what I know now and could have proved it....he would have bought a lot of corn.
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It would kill 'em.....especial if the old milk cow had gotten into the bitter weeds.
People just don`t know... :hi5:
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I am not sure which taste I actually prefer, but I like to buy grass fed beef. I like to buy any food (meat) that eats what it would naturally eat. Corn is such a filler. I fattens them up good, and I guess it gives them a good fatty flavor, but I try to buy local grass fed beef.
I also buy free-range chicken. Since this is MS, and we have lots of agriculture going on, it is easy to find these things.
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No. At the first sign of illness the Obamacare Death Panels will order you to go on Carousel.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/ColonialMarine/Logans%20Run/carousel.jpg)
HA HA!! :cheersmate: :hi5:
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Trust me DUmmy fag, you ain't looking at the toilette, you're looking at your 'partner's' chest.
Yeshuah Ben Joseph (288 posts) Tue Oct-12-10 12:26 AM
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7. Maybe now they can stop putting GMO corn in everything
cows included. Take My word for it, they weren't designed to be corn eaters. Nor were humans, and everyone who has ever looked in the toilet the morning after they ate corn knows this to be true.
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Ok I still love "Don't Cry for Me Argentina"
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4oPWINVVEw&feature=related[/youtube]
We now return to our posts
Me too. Thanks for the interlude.
Anyway. Planning to go to Ft. Worth in a month or so and buy half a cow. Splitting it with two other people, so I should be in cow heaven for a while. BF and friends will be doing some hog hunting in a while, so the bacon will be properly stocked. If I get lucky, I might score some venison and perch as well.
High beef prices in the 80's must be why we bought half-cows back then. They came with chicken too. I never even put it together, we only did that for a while in the 80's and then stopped.
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Gee, corn fed beef @ $2.49 lb, or grass fed, organic, blah, blah, blah, @$9.50 lb........................
Dr Oz is one of these idiots, spouting off about chicken (no hormone, etc...). His idea is the same. Get said chicken @ $6.50 lb?............................NOT
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It's all grass fed at some time. Cattle buyers are at every auction buying cows in the 400 to 650 pound range mostly. These cows come off farms where they have been raised up to that point on milk and grass. They ship them to the midwest and top them out on corn/etc.....some go to the grocery store within a week or two.
It's all beef.
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It's all grass fed at some time. Cattle buyers are at every auction buying cows in the 400 to 650 pound range mostly. These cows come off farms where they have been raised up to that point on milk and grass. They ship them to the midwest and top them out on corn/etc.....some go to the grocery store within a week or two.
It's all beef.
And I had a nice Angus T-bone off the grill last night. I really didn't care where it was raised, grazed or was otherwise fed. It was expertly cooked and happily dead.
Only a week back TV Land ( I think ) ran the Archie Bunker "Horse Meat" episode. How well I remember those days. Seems like you were always trying to find something; gas, sugar, coffee, meat. And the Fed wants to bring back inflation? Oh goodie. I really have to look for that certificate of deposit I had at 15 1/4 percent. Those were the days. :heart:
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And I had a nice Angus T-bone off the grill last night. I really didn't care where it was raised, grazed or was otherwise fed. It was expertly cooked and happily dead.
Only a week back TV Land ( I think ) ran the Archie Bunker "Horse Meat" episode. How well I remember those days. Seems like you were always trying to find something; gas, sugar, coffee, meat. And the Fed wants to bring back inflation? Oh goodie. I really have to look for that certificate of deposit I had at 15 1/4 percent. Those were the days. :heart:
Daddy had some at 17 1/2%...Jimmy Carter was great wasn't he.
....and I had none because I was broke.
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It's all grass fed at some time. Cattle buyers are at every auction buying cows in the 400 to 650 pound range mostly. These cows come off farms where they have been raised up to that point on milk and grass. They ship them to the midwest and top them out on corn/etc.....some go to the grocery store within a week or two.
It's all beef.
No kiddin'!
DUmmies don't know squat! The corn crunch will just make that crap you useless idiots in the Blue City Suburbs more expensive! Finishing on corn is for the stinkin' feedlots that send their crap to people who don't know any better!
I lock my personal stock up around this time of year. I feed them a ton a grain a piece, then it's off to the butcher.
My pasture is a 7 blend grass mix with some wild oats, wheat and rye mixed in. My finisher is a blend of rye, barley, ( mostly barley ), fescue, clover, oats, corn and molasses! Corn is less than 10% and is used to marble fat into the muscle. Costs me about $425/ton. Every 6 lbs of grain, turns into 1 lb of beef and replaces the previous muscle tissue they used to use to kick my ass, into tenderloin. Takes about 100 days to finish 'em.
Any cow that just eats wild grass, ( ETA: read free range ), could be used to resole your boots! It sure as hell ain't tender enough for my tastes or, my worn out teeth, for that matter!
There is also a shitload of minerals in it to ensure their health and further the protein up the food chain.
After all is said and done, this year it will cost me around $2.25/lb. into the freezers. Oh, and it will melt in your mouth!
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No kiddin'!
DUmmies don't know squat! The corn crunch will just make that crap you useless idiots in the Blue City Suburbs more expensive! Finishing on corn is for the stinkin' feedlots that send their crap to people who don't know any better!
I lock my personal stock up around this time of year. I feed them a ton a grain a piece, then it's off to the butcher.
My pasture is a 7 blend grass mix with some wild oats, wheat and rye mixed in. My finisher is a blend of rye, barley, ( mostly barley ), fescue, clover, oats, corn and molasses! Corn is less than 10% and is used to marble fat into the muscle. Costs me about $425/ton. Every 6 lbs of grain, turns into 1 lb of beef and replaces the previous muscle tissue they used to use to kick my ass, into tenderloin. Takes about 100 days to finish 'em.
Any cow that just eats wild grass, ( ETA: read free range ), could be used to resole your boots! It sure as hell ain't tender enough for my tastes or, my worn out teeth, for that matter!
There is also a shitload of minerals in it to ensure their health and further the protein up the food chain.
After all is said and done, this year it will cost me around $2.25/lb. into the freezers. Oh, and it will melt in your mouth!
Hell I'd love to buy-in to just a quarter of a cow. :drool:
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Hell I'd love to buy-in to just a quarter of a cow. :drool:
Unfortunately, the FDA has made it impossible for small outfits like mine to do anything commercially! I send around 30 to auction every year so those idiots in the Blue states can pay ridiculous prices for there corn fed fat!
I can't even sell to the local butcher shop without the feds inspectin' me 4 times a year! I try like hell to keep a low profile when it comes to those morons! Never met a one that could find his ass with both hands!