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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on October 07, 2010, 01:31:53 PM
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Oh my.
Redstone (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 06:31 PM
CHIEF S ITTING BULL, THE BIRD-SMACKING STONED RED-FACED PRIMITIVE
Original message
So how come it's "portuguese" (with two Us), but "Portugal" (with only one U)?
I've never understood that.
(Just the kind of useless thing a manic brain like mine seizes on now and again.)
BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 06:34 PM
THE BUTT PARASITE PRIMITIVE
Response to Original message
1. It signifies that the G is hard, which would be less clear without the u.
The spelling is borrowed from Portuguese.
Redstone (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 06:35 PM
CHIEF S ITTING BULL, THE BIRD-SMACKING STONED RED-FACED PRIMITIVE
Response to Reply #1
2. It signifies that the **what** is hard? The second U?
BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 06:39 PM
THE BUTT PARASITE PRIMITIVE
Response to Reply #2
3. G
Sorry. Typing this on an iPhone. I repeat, that the g is hard.
Redstone (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 06:42 PM
CHIEF S ITTING BULL, THE BIRD-SMACKING STONED RED-FACED PRIMITIVE
Response to Reply #3
4. Aha. Thank you. I had not known that about that language.
Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. G is soft before a, o, u, but hard before e, i.
Just as in Spanish, a 'u' is inserted before e, or i, to make them soft but then the 'u' becomes silent.
If the 'u' is to be sounded, it is marked with a dieresis.
That is why words like güero (blondie) have the umlaut or dieresis.
Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. How then, would one pronounce Portugual ...?
what does that second "u" do in this case?
Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Yes, the second 'u' would be sounded in that case cacophonically.
Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 07:49 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. like this...
Port-u-gu-al
Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Exactly!
You have it right.
Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. ok, thanks. Wanted to make sure I understood.
petronius (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. Did you mean that the other way around? Portuguese and guero are pronounced with the hard 'g', but without the 'u' it would be soft? If 'g' is hard before 'e', why is the 'u' needed?
Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. No, I have it right
Portugese would be pronounced as if spelt Portukhese. Guttural, half way between an x and hacking a loogie.
petronius (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #11
17. Oh, I guess a hard g is harder than I thought. I think of hard g as 'guh', and soft g as 'jeh'. So the guh-like sound in Portuguese is actually a soft g?
Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. Yes. The hard G is closer to H as in Herbert, Soft G is like G in Geese
petronius (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. Interesting, I've learned a new thing today
Thanks!
Bucky (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #7
20. Is that why it's called the G-spot? Because it's hard next to U, but soft next to I?
After which Chief S itting Bull essays to explain Finnish, and tries to learn Korean.
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Someone said "hard" and all the gay dudes came running to help out.
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What a complete waste of band width!
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Isn't Port-u-gal (with the extra hard G) where Twitboy -- er, I mean Twixvoy -- defected?
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What a complete waste of band width!
Well, if one wishes to see wasted brain waves, look at Chief S itting Bull again:
mcollins (301 posts) Tue Oct-05-10 06:52 PM
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5. Why do people misspell Finland all the time?
Sue me.
Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 07:06 PM
CHIEF S ITTING BULL, THE BIRD-SMACKING STONED RED-FACED PRIMITIVE
Response to Reply #5
6. Do they? I did not know. How to they missspell it? "Finnland?" My doctor's last name is "Hautaniemi," whic I guessed to be North African, but turns out to be Finnish. I'd never have guessed it, given the absense of two Ks or two Ps together.
Geezuz, Chief S itting Bull lacks something in the upstairs department.
KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #6
14. It's a groaner pun
The name of Finland in Finnish, as shown on their hockey uniforms for instance, is "Suomi".
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 07:06 PM
CHIEF S ITTING BULL, THE BIRD-SMACKING STONED RED-FACED PRIMITIVE
Response to Reply #5
6. Do they? I did not know. How to they missspell it? "Finnland?" My doctor's last name is "Hautaniemi," whic I guessed to be North African, but turns out to be Finnish. I'd never have guessed it, given the absense of two Ks or two Ps together.
I wonder how DO they misspell it?
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GET A ****ING JOB.
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GET A ****ING JOB.
What capitalist in his right mind would????????????
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If this means they're going to move to Brazil, I'm all for it.
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If this means they're going to move to Brazil, I'm all for it.
Don't you and I both wish.....
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Don't you and I both wish.....
As long as the boat sinks on the way! I wouldn't wish these pukes on my worst enemy! Brazil has enough problems without addin' these asshats into the mix!
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #7
20. Is that why it's called the G-spot? Because it's hard next to U, but soft next to I?
Bet your significant other thinks you're an inept neophyte in bed. ::)
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 07:06 PM
CHIEF S ITTING BULL, THE BIRD-SMACKING STONED RED-FACED PRIMITIVE
Response to Reply #5
6. Do they? I did not know. How to they missspell it? "Finnland?" My doctor's last name is "Hautaniemi," whic I guessed to be North African, but turns out to be Finnish. I'd never have guessed it, given the absense of two Ks or two Ps together.
You missed one. :-)
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Between Atman in Thailand and Redstone in Brazil, those young boys will have nowhere to hide. :censored:
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Between Atman in Thailand and Redstone in Brazil, those young boys will have nowhere to hide. :censored:
They're already lost in Uranus!!!
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-05-10 07:06 PM
CHIEF S ITTING BULL, THE BIRD-SMACKING STONED RED-FACED PRIMITIVE
Response to Reply #5
6. Do they? I did not know. How to they missspell it? "Finnland?" My doctor's last name is "Hautaniemi," whic I guessed to be North African, but turns out to be Finnish. I'd never have guessed it, given the absense of two Ks or two Ps together.
My friend's name is Bob - I spell AND pronounce it backwards...he has no idea...
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They're already lost in Uranus!!!
:nutkick: