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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 06, 2010, 04:46:55 PM
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Same jackass, different thread.
TOPIC: Story posted in al Jazeera about rape as a weapon of war.
SUBJECT: defendandprotect
ISSUE: he has tons of issues
Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. Understandable. Rape is used to dilute a population
IIRC the Serbs were using it against Muslims during the Yugoslov civil war
In short, rape their women until they're pregnant then leave them with a generation they can no longer claim is of a particular ethnicity.
D&P is so eager to pick a fight he won't even let the girl agree with him:
defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 05:29 PM
Response to Reply #1
14. United Nations recognized RAPE as a tool of war some long time ago -- !!!
Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 05:33 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. Yes, well, I wasn't commenting on the UN
I was commenting on a very small clause in an otherwise very necessary news article.
I'm not sure what the excitement is supposed to be about.
defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. You don't know "what the excitement is supposed to be about" ....?
I don't get what you are trying to say or affirm ---
Rape as a tool of war is historical --
Bosnia/Serbia made that quite clear again --
RAPE is a military order by leaders to soldiers --
and that is confirmed by the United Nations statement quite a few years back.
Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 05:49 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. Yes. That's pretty much what I said, minus the extraneous exclamation points.
My post only noted that "increasingly used" was a peculiar phrase because of the historicity of rape as a weapon of war.
I then complimented the OP for posting about a very important subject.
That's all.
I even sited the Yugoslov civil war in a later post.
I don't know why the UN figures into any of this. Rape was a weapon of war and genocide for thousands of years prior to the advent of the UN and even if the Un had never recognized it as a weapon it would still be a weapon.
The OP is to be commended for helping cast light this very dark practice.
defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. Agree -- and the United Nations provides a necessary confirmation of this reality ... !!
And he just won't leave her alone: elsewhere in the same thread:
ensho (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. even our soldiers rape the women in their troop
disgusting
Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. That's not politically/ethnically motivated as an instrument of war
defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. and they rape women in the military academies, as well --- !!!
We need an end to the male-supremacist religions which create and preach
hatred and intolerance for women and homosexuals from their pulpits!!
Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. The Soviet army moving into Germany at the end of WW2
committed many revenge rapes against German women. While it is debateble as to whether the secularist Soviet government encourgaed the behavior it pretty much condoned the acts by its silence.
Let's not replace one form of bigotry with another.
And although I'm an atheist I'll go out on a limbe here and predict vast majorities of religious people would feel their creeds compel them to condemn rape.
defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. Your comments aren't clear -- US soldiers raping their own female teammates ....
or raping female students at the military academies is clear history.
If you have a comment on that, why not make it ...?
Meanwhile ... Soviet army did rape Germans --
and Germans raped in every country they conquered.
Japanese raped -- and also used their own young women as camp "prostitutes."
US in Vietnam actually set up houses of prostitution --
Therefore, please make clear what this comment alludes to ....
Let's not replace one form of bigotry with another.
And what would this comment have to do with military decisions re rape ... ?
whether the secularist Soviet government encourgaed the behavior
Are you trying to suggest that a belief in male-supremacist religion prevents rape?
Unfortunately, the more one looks at your comments ....
And although I'm an atheist I'll go out on a limbe here and predict vast majorities of religious people would feel their creeds compel them to condemn rape.
the more likely it is to find conflicting messages -- unfortunately, we have had Rumsfeld's
belief in "Chrstianity" plastered all over his military messages -- and he supported torture.
It was Rumsfeld who moved the military "to the dogs" -- !!
And many more examples -- including at our military academies -- of Evangelicals being in charge
while rape has thrived!
Very frantic writing cadence.
Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. My point, as I noted in post #11, is that the attacks that occur in
the US military are not because of policy but in spite of it.
The US isn't attacking its own soldiers, or anybody else's for that matter, as a instrument of war.
What's with all the exclamation points? Emphasis is one thing but overuse smacks more of raving than point-making.
heh
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9266158
Methinks D&P is a tweaker.
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What a bunch of DUmmies! :mental:
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I will eat what I want when I want. Thanks.
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D&P needs a bullet to the brain in order to put him out of his and our misery!
How many cases of rape have ever been documented within our service members? 1 or 2 in how many hundred thousand?
This is supposed to acquaint rape as a military tactic?
Please read my replies to your bull shit, asshole! Then send me a message where we can meet!
I'm certain we could clear this up in a matter of seconds!
You traitorous ****in' bastard! How dare you!
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wow, what a ****ing jackass and by "****ing jackass" I mean D&P probably rapes donkeys:
defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-07-10 02:32 AM
Response to Reply #22
26. Are you here to debate punctuation or the subject ... ???
Edited on Thu Oct-07-10 02:38 AM by defendandprotect
Obviously, our "policies" in the military and in the academies are NOT sufficient
because rapes keep occurring -- we need more hearings and more action -- more
punishment and more policy! And more protection for females, especially when they
are working for abusers like Blackwater!
Unfortunately, the US soldier is attacking his own female teammates -- both at our
academies and in the military. If military leadership gave orders for our soldiers
to TORTURE and our doctors to cooperate in TORTURE, how do you know what else they
"ordered"? Many in military hierarchy and in military academy hierarchy are religious
fanatics who aren't disposed to having females enter onto their "hallowed ground."
People in our military and at our academies are being seriously harassed because they
are not "Christian" or not "Evangelical" enough --
Many are harassed in our military and academies because they are homosexual --
We have no reason not to suspect that there are those in the military who want to rid
the services and academies of BOTH females and homosexuals -- and non-Christians!
AND ... when you get time, maybe you want to try to actually respond to my post --
I'll repeat it for you here ....
Meanwhile ... Soviet army did rape Germans --
and Germans raped in every country they conquered.
Japanese raped -- and also used their own young women as camp "prostitutes."
US in Vietnam actually set up houses of prostitution --
Therefore, please make clear what this comment alludes to ....
Let's not replace one form of bigotry with another.
And what would this comment have to do with military decisions re rape ... ?
whether the secularist Soviet government encourgaed the behavior
Are you trying to suggest that a belief in male-supremacist religion prevents rape?
Unfortunately, the more one looks at your comments ....
And although I'm an atheist I'll go out on a limbe here and predict vast majorities of religious people would feel their creeds compel them to condemn rape.
the more likely it is to find conflicting messages -- unfortunately, we have had Rumsfeld's
belief in "Chrstianity" plastered all over his military messages -- and he supported torture.
It was Rumsfeld who moved the military "to the dogs" -- !!
And many more examples -- including at our military academies -- of Evangelicals being in charge
while rape has thrived!
[emphases from the original]
Despite being a simpering DUmbass NU takes him to task:
Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-07-10 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #26
34. Rape happens in spite of policies, regulations and laws
Maybe in your enthusiasm to slander the military and fling anti-religious bigotry you forgot to notice there are anti-rape laws in the civilian world too and yet it is still a major issue. I myself would be interested to see stats about the number incidences of rape in the US military vs similar population groups in the civilian world.
I seriously doubt you would call congressional hearings to investigate every police chief that had a rape occur in their municipality.
Instead of dealing with facts you make some wild-eyed assertion that Christians encouraging soldiers to rape female soldiers to teach them a lesson about enlisting. Well, so far its just a wild-eyed assertion and instead taking on a serious issue seriously where real people need real help you reduce the subject to a bigot's screed to be dismissed out of hand.
Grow-up and stop making a mockery of a serious subject. You've managed to hijack a very good thread to grind your personal, bigoted axe. The army doesn't teach Rape 101 and Christians don't encourage or condone rape.
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I think defendeddefect is gunning for Top 10 DUmmies this year.
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I think defendeddefect is gunning for Top 10 DUmmies this year.
He still needs to lower his IQ by a few more points, but he's well on his way.
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He still needs to lower his IQ by a few more points, but he's well on his way.
Indeed he is. Just like typical DUmmie fashion.
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DP = code for double or dual penetration.....if DP wants to be gang raped, he should try insulting the Muslims. He'd be more likely to get what he wants.....except, then they'd have to kill him.
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You want to see rape?
Take a look at my 1040.
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You want to see rape?
Take a look at my 1040.
Well I'll be....all these years I thought it was wet equipment seats that was giving me the sore-ass every spring.
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Well I'll be....all these years I thought it was wet equipment seats that was giving me the sore-ass every spring.
All of us are going to have sore asses by the time this imposter is done with us. :censored:
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ensho (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. even our soldiers rape the women in their troop
The same thing could be said of anywhere men and women are together, including the student bodies of fiercely liberal coeducational academic institutions. Idiot. Also it has nothing whatsoever to do with the supposed topic (Admittedly going nowhere as it was) about rape as a weapon.
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The same thing could be said of anywhere men and women are together, including the student bodies of fiercely liberal coeducational academic institutions. Idiot. Also it has nothing whatsoever to do with the supposed topic (Admittedly going nowhere as it was) about rape as a weapon.
And women seduce men and on and on. Mix the sexes and you're going to have situations that wouldn't occur if genders were separated. While rape is disgusting (I won't mention what I think the appropriate punishment for rape should be but he wouldn't be able to rape again) the military is no place for social experiment. There's a reason the Marines still keep men and women separated during boot camp.
Cindie
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After so much time with a conservative boyfriend, seems like Nuclear Unicorn has picked up some common sense by injection.
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Bringing up the UN is rich. How many rapes are their so called peace keeping troops are guilty of it?
Also in my eight years as a military woman I have lost count on how many times I was raped. :whatever:
Want some fun? Take the number of women in the military that were raped by a fellow military member ever and compare it to the number of rapes that occur on liberal college campuses every year. Want to guess who has the higher number?
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Bringing up the UN is rich. How many rapes are their so called peace keeping troops are guilty of it?
Also in my eight years as a military woman I have lost count on how many times I was raped. :whatever:
Want some fun? Take the number of women in the military that were raped by a fellow military member ever and compare it to the number of rapes that occur on liberal college campuses every year. Want to guess who has the higher number?
Now now now we're not letting you off THAT easy Missy. You sarcastically claim you were never raped and we accept that. The big question here is how many poor guys did YOU predatory women rape? :rotf:
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Now now now we're not letting you off THAT easy Missy. You sarcastically claim you were never raped and we accept that. The big question here is how many poor guys did YOU predatory women rape? :rotf:
Just one. He is now Mr Aprilrazz. [Yellowbeard voice on]Guess he enjoyed the raping[Yellowbeard voice off].:naughty:
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(I won't mention what I think the appropriate punishment for rape should be but he wouldn't be able to rape again)
Trippin' In Court - Cheech & Chong
"Mr. Horwinkle, this is not the first time you've been brought before this court on such a charge and we must make sure it doesn't happen again. Bailiff, whack his pee-pee!"
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