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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on October 06, 2010, 11:02:01 AM
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 10:50 AM
Original message
Poll question: POLL : What do Democrats need to do to be more appealing to voters?
Poll result (27 votes)
They need to be more adaptable to the people in their districts. (0 votes, 0%) Vote
They need to be more different from the Republicans. (0 votes, 0%) Vote
They need to be more like moderate Republicans. (0 votes, 0%) Vote
They need to be more progressive in their ideas. (6 votes, 22%) Vote
They need to be more conservative in their ideas. (0 votes, 0%) Vote
They need to draw a sharp contrast with their Repub opponents. (12 votes, 44%) Vote
They need to be more moderate to appeal to all the voters. (0 votes, 0%) Vote
None of the above. (4 votes, 15%) Vote
Other (5 votes, 19%) Vote
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 10:54 AM
Response to Original message
1. Tell them fairy-tale bullshit they want to hear.
See "Reagan, Ronald" or "Bush, George W."
Oh, and put a curtain over the soldier coffins, the canyon of debt and the Plutocracy.
Hide the truth of Dem policies?
notesdev (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 10:59 AM
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4. They need to enforce the law against the wealthy and powerful
Edited on Wed Oct-06-10 11:00 AM by notesdev
instead, our officeholders only seem to know how to turn the screws on the middle and lower classes. If we wanted that, that's what the GOP is for.
The one shot we'd have of pulling out of this election without a disaster goes like this:
Step 1) Geithner and his buddies, fired - today. As in clearance revoked, wait at the security desk while security cleans out your desk and puts it in a box for you to carry home.
Step 2) Immediately freeze all assets and accounts from every person who has held an executive level position in a large bank or investment bank, revoke all passports, place them under house arrest.
Step 3) Fast track prosecutions, highest level and most well known offenders first. Hank Paulson is a good first choice, so is Alan Greenspan, Lloyd Blankfein, Dick Fuld, Jamie Dimon, or even Geithner himself. Actually prosecuting Geithner first would be an excellent choice as it would demonstrate to the public that this isn't a partisan operation.
Step 4) Impeach and remove Ben Bernanke, replace with an explicitly temporary chairman whose tenure is granted on good behavior and regular (as in monthly) consent of Congress.
Step 5) Tell the damn truth about what has happened in our financial sector and how justice will be done.
Step 6) Send the military to Wall Street and shut the whole damn place down in the name of national security.
Not much time left until the election, so this is about all that can be done in this time frame.
I'm not holding my breath, but here's the playbook for victory at the polls if anyone is interested.
Go Full Commie on their asses, is that it?
Myrina (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 11:00 AM
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5. Other: FIGHT the GOP, not try to be BFF's with them!
The Dems committing suicide appeals to me.
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Step 2) Immediately freeze all assets and accounts from every person who has held an executive level position in a large bank or investment bank, revoke all passports, place them under house arrest.
Step 6) Send the military to Wall Street and shut the whole damn place down in the name of national security.
:rotf: :rofl: :lmao:
I'm not holding my breath, but here's the playbook for victory at the polls if anyone is interested.
That playbook would get you sacked for a loss repeatedly. Go for it DUmmy.
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What do Democrats need to do to be more appealing to voters?
YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!!!!
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/10/14/article-1220266-00337F7E00000258-245_468x497.jpg)
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 10:59 AM
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4. They need to enforce the law against the wealthy and powerful
Edited on Wed Oct-06-10 11:00 AM by notesdev
instead, our officeholders only seem to know how to turn the screws on the middle and lower classes. If we wanted that, that's what the GOP is for.
The one shot we'd have of pulling out of this election without a disaster goes like this:
Step 1) Geithner and his buddies, fired - today. As in clearance revoked, wait at the security desk while security cleans out your desk and puts it in a box for you to carry home.
Step 2) Immediately freeze all assets and accounts from every person who has held an executive level position in a large bank or investment bank, revoke all passports, place them under house arrest.
Step 3) Fast track prosecutions, highest level and most well known offenders first. Hank Paulson is a good first choice, so is Alan Greenspan, Lloyd Blankfein, Dick Fuld, Jamie Dimon, or even Geithner himself. Actually prosecuting Geithner first would be an excellent choice as it would demonstrate to the public that this isn't a partisan operation.
Step 4) Impeach and remove Ben Bernanke, replace with an explicitly temporary chairman whose tenure is granted on good behavior and regular (as in monthly) consent of Congress.
Step 5) Tell the damn truth about what has happened in our financial sector and how justice will be done.
Step 6) Send the military to Wall Street and shut the whole damn place down in the name of national security.
Not much time left until the election, so this is about all that can be done in this time frame.
I'm not holding my breath, but here's the playbook for victory at the polls if anyone is interested.
Oh that plan will go over really well.
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Since it appears to me, their Messiah is tryin' to do much of what these asshats wish for, what the hell are they bitchin' about?
What can they do to appeal to American voters? How 'bout pushin' up daisies?
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 10:50 AM
Original message
Poll question: POLL : What do Democrats need to do to be more appealing to voters?
Leave the country.
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Call an emergency session of congress and repeal Obamacare, make the Bush tax cuts permanent, pass a lean budget, and freeze all government hiring.
Then resign en masse.
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Donks will do what they have to do every election, LIE and run from Pelosi/Reid/Obama and their own records.
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 10:59 AM
Response to Original message
4. They need to enforce the law against the wealthy and powerful
Edited on Wed Oct-06-10 11:00 AM by notesdev
instead, our officeholders only seem to know how to turn the screws on the middle and lower classes. If we wanted that, that's what the GOP is for.
The one shot we'd have of pulling out of this election without a disaster goes like this:
Step 1) Geithner and his buddies, fired - today. As in clearance revoked, wait at the security desk while security cleans out your desk and puts it in a box for you to carry home.
Step 2) Immediately freeze all assets and accounts from every person who has held an executive level position in a large bank or investment bank, revoke all passports, place them under house arrest.
Step 3) Fast track prosecutions, highest level and most well known offenders first. Hank Paulson is a good first choice, so is Alan Greenspan, Lloyd Blankfein, Dick Fuld, Jamie Dimon, or even Geithner himself. Actually prosecuting Geithner first would be an excellent choice as it would demonstrate to the public that this isn't a partisan operation.
Step 4) Impeach and remove Ben Bernanke, replace with an explicitly temporary chairman whose tenure is granted on good behavior and regular (as in monthly) consent of Congress.
Step 5) Tell the damn truth about what has happened in our financial sector and how justice will be done.
Step 6) Send the military to Wall Street and shut the whole damn place down in the name of national security.
Not much time left until the election, so this is about all that can be done in this time frame.
I'm not holding my breath, but here's the playbook for victory at the polls if anyone is interested.
My, my, the Good Idea Fairy is hitting the clock for double overtime today!
:rotf:
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Four-point plan of action for the Democrat Party going into the closing weeks of the 2010 mid-term elections
1) Scream "Racists!"
2) Scream "Racists!" louder
3) Scream "Racists!" really, really loud
4) Run-around sobbing about how nobody understands you.
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Offer free ponies? Oh wait, they tried that already. :thatsright:
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Why would someone ask a question like that at a place where people profess their leftism? their ideology only resonates with 20% of Americans.
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YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!!!!
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/10/14/article-1220266-00337F7E00000258-245_468x497.jpg)
:lmao:
:clap:
The Godfather I and II are my all time favorite movies!
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Why would someone ask a question like that at a place where people profess their leftism? their ideology only resonates with 20% of Americans.
You are an incredibly generous woman. Wish I'd known you back in the days when I was kvetching over the "size" issue.
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Notesdev
Channeling your Inner Fascist will draw voters like bees to honey.
Go for it!!!
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Die in a fire?
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My, my, the Good Idea Fairy is hitting the clock for double overtime today!
:rotf:
Now, does "the Good Idea Fairy" equal "bongs," or does "the clock for overtime" equal "bongs?"
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Step 2) Immediately freeze all assets and accounts from every person who has held an executive level position in a large bank or investment bank, revoke all passports, place them under house arrest.
Goodness...you mean deny a person their Constitutional rights to due process because of your political desires? :o
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left is right (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 11:48 AM
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15. They need to have a media
that promotes them the way the repukes have
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 11:16 AM
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13. Buy ponies...
(http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/images/dilemma.gif)
:evillaugh:
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Die in a fire?
H5! :hi5:
Some really great answers here in this thread. I love it. :cheersmate:
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You are an incredibly generous woman. Wish I'd known you back in the days when I was kvetching over the "size" issue.
No kiddin'! This.....|---------------------|, is 6 inches to a DUmmie!
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Here's a reply to Notesdev's list:
Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #4
22. I showed your post around and you have provided much-needed laughs over here
Please, keep it up.
notesdev (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. Where's 'here'?
Wall St.? DNC? SEC?
He didn't say.
TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 11:00 AM
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6. They need to reject and combat Reaganism to the last breath while serving the working and poor
people.
Somehow I just don't think this will resonate this year. People remember Reagan and that economy. The invoking of "the poor" remind people too much of John Edwards.
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 11:00 AM
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6. They need to reject and combat Reaganism to the last breath while serving the working and poor
people.
Yeah, sure! It's worked so well givin' our money away to those that never earn it!
Have ya looked at the unemployment rate lately, DUmbass? America is about ready to lynch you idiots for such responses to our current malady, brought on by asshats just like YOU, BTW!!!!
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Close to 60 million are just one notch above the official poverty line. These near-poor Americans live in households with annual incomes that range from $20,000 to $40,000 for a family of four.
(from 2008)
I'm still trying to figure out how this income level is actually "poor".
I'm not that far above the upper side and we live pretty well.
:bs:
http://useconomy.about.com/od/suppl1/a/Income_Levels.htm
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(from 2008)
I'm still trying to figure out how this income level is actually "poor".
I'm not that far above the upper side and we live pretty well.
:bs:
http://useconomy.about.com/od/suppl1/a/Income_Levels.htm
Me and "Toots" made about 55 grand last year. Pretty pitiful givin' my previous years, but, we still paid better than 5500 to the Feds in taxes! This doesn't even count what state, county, and sales tax does to our income. We lacked for nothin'! Actually we were quite comfortable!
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about 55 grand last year. Pretty pitiful givin' my previous years
I'm right there with ya, AR, with the Fed payout, too. We don't go hungry, but the thing I find frustrating is saving. Every time I get some savings built up, another freaking NY tax bill comes in the mail. That and maintenance. Big ticket items start becoming huge ticket items with 7.8% tax.
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I'm right there with ya, AR, with the Fed payout, too. We don't go hungry, but the thing I find frustrating is saving. Every time I get some savings built up, another freaking NY tax bill comes in the mail. That and maintenance. Big ticket items start becoming huge ticket items with 7.8% tax.
Ain't that the truth!!!
My 32" TV is goin' tits up, and I been lookin' at flat screens. If I could just pay the listed price I could afford one. Add sales tax and not so much!
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Colonize the sun.
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Colonize the sun.
:lmao:
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What do Democrats need to do to be more appealing to voters?
To quote a line from the movie "Independence Day"....
"DDDDDDDDDDDiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeee"
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Oh that plan will go over really well.
Like a fart in an airlock. :rotf:
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Here is a thought.
Keep the criminals,Especially child molesters in JAIL
Repeal all gun control laws.
Leave the country and never come back
Cut union wages in half. There is no reason why anyone outside of their little gang should pay for their Viagra by having another 5k slapped onto the price of the average car.
Stop giving everything away to the Illeagles. That 65 billion wasted on them would go along way to feeding kids born here and educate them too.
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Well, and let's not forget self-immolation!
:fuelfire:
:cheersmate:
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In all seriousness there's nothing they can do. The past 4 years and especially the past 2 have shown the people the true face of the left and it's as ugly as Stinky's unwashed butt hovering over the cat box. Pretending they were as conservative (or at least moderate) is something they'll not be able to get away with again any time soon. As the adage goes, fool me once, shame on you... They haven't done one thing in the last 2 years, NOT ONE that the American people wanted. Health care, stimulus (and using said funds to pay off cronies and unions), taking over auto companies, student loans, financial institutions, blatantly and purposely lying to the American people. The list could go on and on. People will forgive a lot, but what they've done in the past few years can't be forgiven or forgotten.
Cindie
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Well, and let's not forget self-immolation!
:fuelfire:
:cheersmate:
That's a waste of good energy.....the Nazi's decovered that one fat body would burn up 6 skinny bodies.
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 11:00 AM
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6. They need to reject and combat Reaganism to the last breath while serving the working and poor
people.
Come on already just how much more does the poor need from the taxpayer?
I mean people are using their welfare debit cards at casinos and on cruise ships.
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Come on already just how much more does the poor need from the taxpayer?
I mean people are using their welfare debit cards at casinos and on cruise ships.
Excellent point!!
If they're on welfare and are still able to gamble/go on cruises, something is SERIOUSLY wrong. :banghead:
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Excellent point!!
If they're on welfare and are still able to gamble/go on cruises, something is SERIOUSLY wrong. :banghead:
Yet Obama blasts the rich people for buying big screen TVs. I swear i woke up in opposite land at some point.
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Excellent point!!
If they're on welfare and are still able to gamble/go on cruises, something is SERIOUSLY wrong. :banghead:
Are you referring to the fact that millions of dollars from welfare debit cards from Califruitopia have been used in Vegas, Hawaii and even Florida?
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Yet Obama blasts the rich people for buying big screen TVs. I swear i woke up in opposite land at some point.
Very true!! It's sickening. :banghead:
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Are you referring to the fact that millions of dollars from welfare debit cards from Califruitopia have been used in Vegas, Hawaii and even Florida?
Yep that's what I was talking about. I did hear that the evil bank that handles the debit cards will have to make it so they can not be used in those places.
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Very true!! It's sickening. :banghead:
In today's world if you work and provide for your self you are greedy. If you don't work and hold your hand out, you are noble. :banghead:
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Comes right from the top. The imposter in the White House.
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Yet Obama blasts the rich people for buying big screen TVs. I swear i woke up in opposite land at some point.
That is why I have my avatar as the Mirror Universe dagger from Star Trek
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Leave the country.
I like the way you think. North Korea comes to mind. Hell... let's use some of the stimulus money to buy them a plane ticket. I would consider that a good use of those funds.
H5!
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That is why I have my avatar as the Mirror Universe dagger from Star Trek
I will look and see if Leonard Nimoy has grown a beard. :-)
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Excellent point!!
If they're on welfare and are still able to gamble/go on cruises, something is SERIOUSLY wrong. :banghead:
Well, from my experience, there's a heckuva lot of welfare recipients in the projects that use the money to buy illicit drugs, sell them for a profit, and make more money than you and I!!!
I'm sure the first words out of a DUmmie's mouth will be, "racist". Problem is, truth hurts! I can document this any time one of these pukes wants to dismiss it out of hand for anything but the truth.
What's a real pisser is, the IRS would rather audit you and me for legitimate earnings rather than go after someone living well above their means in broad daylight! Ya don't pay taxes if you're on the gubmint dole, so they continually operate under the radar!
Ever wonder why they can afford an SUV worth 30 thou? It isn't because they saved their milk money for a rainy day!
Why is it the powers that be, spend less money on fraud, than they do on audits on everyday citizens?
Spread the wealth my friends, spread the wealth!
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YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!!!!
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/10/14/article-1220266-00337F7E00000258-245_468x497.jpg)
Are you addressing the male DUmmies here? Cuz some of the women scare me worse.
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-06-10 10:59 AM
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4. They need to enforce the law against the wealthy and powerful
Step 2) Immediately freeze all assets and accounts from every person who has held an executive level position in a large bank or investment bank, revoke all passports, place them under house arrest.
Boy howdy, George Sorros will sure be pleased!
Step 6) Send the military to Wall Street and shut the whole damn place down in the name of national security.
Then stand back and "blink...blink...blink" in utter disbelief as 50% of working Americans lose their jobs because their parent companies just lost 75% of their worth because the stock market was shut down. Oh sure, union government employees will keep their jobs until local, state, and federal governments realize they just lost most of their personal and business tax revenues then those union parasite jobs will be gone too.
Brilliant!
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Boy howdy, George Sorros will sure be pleased!
Then stand back and "blink...blink...blink" in utter disbelief as 50% of working Americans lose their jobs because their parent companies just lost 75% of their worth because the stock market was shut down. Oh sure, union government employees will keep their jobs until local, state, and federal governments realize they just lost most of their personal and business tax revenues then those union parasite jobs will be gone too.
Brilliant!
I was thinkin' more like, how fast the military will tell them to get ****ed!
Somehow, these slugs think the "Conservative" military will do what they tell 'em!
Personally, from my experience, it could turn out the exact opposite!
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In today's world if you work and provide for your self you are greedy. If you don't work and hold your hand out, you are noble. :banghead:
And that in a nutshell is what made people take to the streets. That is what caused the seachange in this country. IIRC, it was this "philosophy" as it related to mortgages that Rick Santelli made his famous rant about, thus lighting the fuse.
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Well, from my experience, there's a heckuva lot of welfare recipients in the projects that use the money to buy illicit drugs, sell them for a profit, and make more money than you and I!!!
I'm sure the first words out of a DUmmie's mouth will be, "racist". Problem is, truth hurts! I can document this any time one of these pukes wants to dismiss it out of hand for anything but the truth.
What's a real pisser is, the IRS would rather audit you and me for legitimate earnings rather than go after someone living well above their means in broad daylight! Ya don't pay taxes if you're on the gubmint dole, so they continually operate under the radar!
Ever wonder why they can afford an SUV worth 30 thou? It isn't because they saved their milk money for a rainy day!
Why is it the powers that be, spend less money on fraud, than they do on audits on everyday citizens?
Spread the wealth my friends, spread the wealth!
YUP! You are totally right my man. Totally right.
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What do Democrats need to do to be more appealing to voters?
Seen a lot of great responses to this question here.
Added to those, I might suggest:
- Bathe. Frequently. (Most of the rest of us have to do it at least daily after mingling with you and your types IRL. That would be a good standard to shoot for.)
- Get a job. A PRIVATE SECTOR job. (Usually, to hold such a job for longer than it takes coffee to cool, it requires that you lay down the bong/joint/crack pipe long enough to not set off alarms at the pre-requisite pee test. Trust me; it's worth it.)
After those things are done, we can move into the dying, self immolation, leaving the country on a one-way ticket, etc... :cheers1:
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Seen a lot of great responses to this question here.
Added to those, I might suggest:
- Bathe. Frequently. (Most of the rest of us have to do it at least daily after mingling with you and your types IRL. That would be a good standard to shoot for.)
- Get a job. A PRIVATE SECTOR job. (Usually, to hold such a job for longer than it takes coffee to cool, it requires that you lay down the bong/joint/crack pipe long enough to not set off alarms at the pre-requisite pee test. Trust me; it's worth it.)
After those things are done, we can move into the dying, self immolation, leaving the country on a one-way ticket, etc... :cheers1:
Very well put Defiant. Very well put. :hi5: :cheersmate: