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The Bar => The Lounge => Topic started by: littlelamb on October 04, 2010, 11:24:08 AM
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Why have you decided to be a Conservative Republican verus a DUmmy?
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Why have you decided to be a Conservative Republican verus a DUmmy?
Ummm....my parents were Republicans, so grew up hearing God, Country, Military were all good things.
Last couple of years of high school, Hippies were liberal....I was almost as far from being a hippy as a nun.
Therefore, in my 15-16 yr old mind, I was not Liberal.
Have just never felt a need or reason to change.
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I cannot exist in the absence of common sense, logic, and predictable cause/effect relationships. The lack of same gives me a skull-splitting headache.
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I grew up in a Republican family, although we were fairly poor. The first year that I could vote, I voted for Carter. (we all make mistakes once in a while and that's what I get for thinking that Navy Nukes were intelligent!!) I saw what a mistake that was and have been on the Conservative/ Republican side ever since.
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I was raised by Carter-ites.
I was told to be open-minded but told to stop reading that rightist crap.
I was told the left loves peace but had to deal Greens trying to beat-up soldiers.
I was told the right loves wealth more than people but I noticed how every leftist answer meant more money and power for the left...at gun point with the power of law.
I was told the right are racists but then I watched Thomas, Rogers-Brown, Rice, Sowell and the rest have their professional reputations lynched for no reason other than disagreeing.
I was told killing people over race/religion was bad but then saw the handiwork of Rev Sharpton.
I was told the right supported the evil Pinochet but then I saw unending equivocation for Iran, Iraq, the USSR, Che, Castro, Black September, FARC, the Shining Path, Black September, the PLO, etc. etc. etc.
I just got tired of being lied to. Leftists made me a rightist.
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I am a conservative because I am scared of being BS'd from Heaven. :whatever:
Actually, I would say I have always been a conservative because I have never been a fan of anyone telling me what to do. Especially the Government.
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I have never been a fan of anyone telling me what to do. Especially the Government.
That's a BIG one for me, too. I want to stand on my own 2 feet and tell myself what to do. Simple as that.
I was raised by Republicans, and so had the basic core (thank God). I did get a bit mush-headed in the college years. I voted for Dukakis (!) I was trying to remember why, and I think it was his son-of-immigrant story. Lame, I know. Then I graduated and met the real world. Went to work in the accounting dept of a paper mill, and saw what Unions do. Saw what onerous regulations do. Calculated the profit/loss which dictate whether or not we were to be a going concern. Became firmly Republican.
After 9/11 I became a rock-ribbed conservative.
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My family is just too weird to explain, pretty small-L-libertarian and more Left (Mom) or at least old-school Democrat (Dad) than anything else I guess, but I grew up around guns and the military (Well, if you consider USAF military...) and ended up just following my own path.
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My dad despises hippies because of the way he was treated by them in society after he returned from Vietnam. Between him, my uncles and grandfathers (whom are/were hardcore conservatives), and my mom, who is a Texas woman, they pretty much lined me out on that.
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Seeing my daughter's sonogram at 8 weeks and seeing her little heart beating like crazy. I had swallowed the whole, glob of cells, zygote, not really a baby thing hook, line, and sinker. After that the wall of delusion fell down quickly. I started to see what kind of pathetic immoral slime bags the democrats were. Even if I didn't go conservative I could have never aligned myself with them again.
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I can remember listening to Nixon before the '68 election, and liked what he said. I was only 7.
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I grew up pretty much apolitical. I voted for Clinton (don't beat me). When I had my last child I belonged to a pregnancy group on iVillage. After everyone had their babies I started noticing the militant Nazi breastfeeders and cloth diaper mob target the weak women who were either new to parenting or didn't subscribe to their views.
Then it turned political and the moonbats formed their own board and talked about all the other women on the board. Bouncyball was one of the moonbats. She was know for her "bouncy" lies back then even. My views were always the same I just never gave it a political name because I didn't really pay attention to politics. Since around 2000 I started paying attention and knew I was never a democrat. 9/11 only made my views more set in stone. Not just the act of 9/11 but the way liberals were after.
Both of my parents and step dad are republicans. My dad was a member of a union (meat packing) for most of his life. Both of my brothers are/were liberals. The one that is still alive is a typical moonbat but he isn't mean like the ones on DU. He loves his family even though none of us agree with his views. I don't know what happened to them. Especially my brother that is still alive, it is like we grew up in two totally different families.
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I grew up pretty much apolitical. I voted for Clinton (don't beat me). When I had my last child I belonged to a pregnancy group on iVillage. After everyone had their babies I started noticing the militant Nazi breastfeeders and cloth diaper mob target the weak women who were either new to parenting or didn't subscribe to their views.
Then it turned political and the moonbats formed their own board and talked about all the other women on the board. Bouncyball was one of the moonbats. She was know for her "bouncy" lies back then even. My views were always the same I just never gave it a political name because I didn't really pay attention to politics. Since around 2000 I started paying attention and knew I was never a democrat. 9/11 only made my views more set in stone. Not just the act of 9/11 but the way liberals were after.
Ah, the good old days...LOL. :cheersmate:
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Reading Ayn Rand and coming of age under Ronald Reagan's presidency. End of story.
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militant Nazi breastfeeders and cloth diaper mob
:rofl: My brother's ex is part of this group.
I think she's insane.
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Ah, the good old days...LOL. :cheersmate:
I don't miss any of those angry people, do you? Rememer "You can't steal my intellectual property?". :rotf:
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My dad had to quit school in the eighth grade so the others could keep going....depression you know...So at 13 years of age he was more or less self employed for the next 50 years....that'll make you more conservative.
And I remember chanting "I like Ike" at a local political thingy...7 years old and attending political stumpings in die hard democrat country.... :lmao:....but the fried chicken was good.
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I like to be left alone. I can take care of myself. I don't need Daddy Government to provide for me.
I'm not a hypocrite. I will readily say that I think someone needs to die horribly because they are stupid, traitorous or criminal. Or like Tubby Teddy, all three at once. But, unlike the DUmbasses, I've never claimed to be tolerant of all. In fact, I generally dislike and distrust people until I get to know them. And that's all people, not just the (insert something here)-Americans.
I think. Really, that's all I need to say there.
I live in the real world. I don't believe Utopia is possible. There will always be hate, intolerance, greed, racism, haves and have nots, liars, crooks and the worthless. And not just in Congress... I don't like it, but I accept it. I know that what matters is what is, not some nebulous, poorly thought out philosophy that sounds good but has failed everywhere it's been tried.
I believe in freedom to choose how to live. I grew up Christian, I spent many years as an agnostic and I'm now converting to Judaism. DUmbasses would love for me to not have this freedom. Look at how they bash any religion except atheism. If you want to be an atheist, Mormon, Christian, Shinto, whatever, as far as I am concerned more power to you. I just ask for the same respect.
I love my country. I hate many of the people in it. I raised my hand and gave four years of my life to my country. Maybe not to the level of someone who goes and spends a year or more in the sandbox, but it's a damn sight more than the vast majority have done. And yes, I do intend to move somewhere else at some point, but not because I hate it here.
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I like to be left alone. I can take care of myself. I don't need Daddy Government to provide for me.
I'm not a hypocrite. I will readily say that I think someone needs to die horribly because they are stupid, traitorous or criminal. Or like Tubby Teddy, all three at once. But, unlike the DUmbasses, I've never claimed to be tolerant of all. In fact, I generally dislike and distrust people until I get to know them. And that's all people, not just the (insert something here)-Americans.
I think. Really, that's all I need to say there.
I live in the real world. I don't believe Utopia is possible. There will always be hate, intolerance, greed, racism, haves and have nots, liars, crooks and the worthless. And not just in Congress... I don't like it, but I accept it. I know that what matters is what is, not some nebulous, poorly thought out philosophy that sounds good but has failed everywhere it's been tried.
I believe in freedom to choose how to live. I grew up Christian, I spent many years as an agnostic and I'm now converting to Judaism. DUmbasses would love for me to not have this freedom. Look at how they bash any religion except atheism. If you want to be an atheist, Mormon, Christian, Shinto, whatever, as far as I am concerned more power to you. I just ask for the same respect.
I love my country. I hate many of the people in it. I raised my hand and gave four years of my life to my country. Maybe not to the level of someone who goes and spends a year or more in the sandbox, but it's a damn sight more than the vast majority have done. And yes, I do intend to move somewhere else at some point, but not because I hate it here.
:hi5: That is all.
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I would say the Vietnam War started it but it really came to be with Jimmy Carter later on. When I was a kid I watched the news with mom and dad hoping to hear something good about how we were winning. Fat chance there with the media and the Politicians running things into the ground and not letting our guys win the war. Everyday the body counts were announced and even with us killing far more of them then they got of our side they still lost the war.
Jimmy Carters whole term in office hacked me off from his first real EO letting draft dodgers off the hook to him giving away to the Panama Canal to caving in to the Iranians taking our people hostage until Reagan came into office. If there is anything that could have been learned from watching the Dems holding power over the past 50 years it's that they shouldn't be running anything but a weed eater and a lemonade stand and that would be with adult supervision
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My dad despises hippies because of the way he was treated by them in society after he returned from Vietnam. Between him, my uncles and grandfathers (whom are/were hardcore conservatives), and my mom, who is a Texas woman, they pretty much lined me out on that.
Hippies are WAY different than "Democrats", even though they usually vote Democrat. I hate hippies, too. I wasn't treated very well when I was going home on leave one time from Memphis. I was in uniform and this was POST-Viet Nam. (October 1975, if I recall)
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Well, this question is not really for me, but I am much more reserved and traditional than many democrats are. It may be because I grew up in the south and have conservative parents. My parents often ask where I came from :p. I am not so far left though. I have pretty much always considered myself slightly left of center. And I don't know why I am. I just go with what I feel is right. And that can fall on both sides sometimes.
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Hippies are WAY different than "Democrats", even though they usually vote Democrat. I hate hippies, too. I wasn't treated very well when I was going home on leave one time from Memphis. I was in uniform and this was POST-Viet Nam. (October 1975, if I recall)
Most of them are the modern-day Democrat party. Thus, the injection of Marxist ideals that we have seen recently. Bill Ayers, Shrillary, etc.
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I don't miss any of those angry people, do you? Rememer "You can't steal my intellectual property?". :rotf:
They're really not as angry as they were back then. They're older; they have mellowed. Although there is no one on the current board that challenges them. I don't bother discussing politics with them. I do have some things in common with some of them in terms of parenting things.
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They're really not as angry as they were back then. They're older; they have mellowed. Although there is no one on the current board that challenges them. I don't bother discussing politics with them. I do have some things in common with some of them in terms of parenting things.
It's good to hear they aren't as angry. So you are a part of the militant Nazi breastfeeding and cloth diaper mob? :p
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Really, for a thinking person there isn't much choice. Reality works one way: Recognize what is real, integrate that reality into living life.
The DUmmy way is to make up a wishlist of what reality should be and either sit around and demand others produce that version of reality for them or gain power and impose the desired reality on the rest of us. It simply isn't tenable for the long term. Sadly, most DUmmies only care about the short term.
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I grew up in Detroit. My parents were Democrats and dad was a cop. However, my neighbors were more conservative and definitely made more sense of what I saw going on than the folks did.
I became strongly independent as a person and the Democratic party doesn't seem to foster that. Primarily the social policies of the Dems are what I object to most.
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It's good to hear they aren't as angry. So you are a part of the militant Nazi breastfeeding and cloth diaper mob? :p
hah! Not exactly. They've moved past all that and now we are all united against the teenagers. My teenager is perfect of course, but it's interesting to hear about the problems others are having and how they deal with it. :p
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I grew up in Detroit. My parents were Democrats and dad was a cop. However, my neighbors were more conservative and definitely made more sense of what I saw going on than the folks did.
I became strongly independent as a person and the Democratic party doesn't seem to foster that. Primarily the social policies of the Dems are what I object to most.
Ditto about Detroit (well, the suburbs to be precise). But the Democrat way was THE way, that is until the 1968 election. I remember how my mother would advocate George Wallace, but the truth is, she was a true-blue, dyed-in-the-wool racist. No joke.
Stayed sorta apolitical until about one-quarter of my way through my military career when I woke up and saw just completely ate up Jimmy Carter was. Reagan came along and things got much better for us active-duty types. Right along in there I saw first hand the inefficiencies and problems that confound ANY large-scale bureaucracy, so opining for a smaller government with a much smaller footprint in our lives is the right way to go.
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Ditto about Detroit (well, the suburbs to be precise). But the Democrat way was THE way, that is until the 1968 election. I remember how my mother would advocate George Wallace, but the truth is, she was a true-blue, dyed-in-the-wool racist. No joke.
Stayed sorta apolitical until about one-quarter of my way through my military career when I woke up and saw just completely ate up Jimmy Carter was. Reagan came along and things got much better for us active-duty types. Right along in there I saw first hand the inefficiencies and problems that confound ANY large-scale bureaucracy, so opining for a smaller government with a much smaller footprint in our lives is the right way to go.
I wonder if ALL Navy Nukes are as F'ed up as Carter ?!?!?!?!? :popcorn:
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I grew up in Boston. My parents were both Democrats. That was the way I was brought up. Once I figured out what the lefties and their lefty ways were, I found myself not on the same page as them. Then, after 9/11 and all the terror stuff, I became more and more patriotic and more conservative. :cheersmate:
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Strong democratic family however, I grew up, got a job, got married, had Baby Girl, became responsible, got divorced, raised BG myself .. life and the realities of life made me. I began seeing what the long term consequences the peace love dove movement were causing and noticing the hypocracy of the left .... all talk and no real beneficial action. ... oh, and I read the Communist Manifesto.
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Strong democratic family however, I grew up, got a job, got married, had Baby Girl, became responsible, got divorced, raised BG myself .. life and the realities of life made me. I began seeing what the long term consequences the peace love dove movement were causing and noticing the hypocracy of the left .... all talk and no real beneficial action. ... oh, and I read the Communist Manifesto.
Your dad was career AF and a Democrat? :o
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Your dad was career AF and a Democrat? :o
Lots of military folks are Dems, especially parents that are (were) the age of ours. Of course, those were the old fashioned Democrats vs today's "Progressives".
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Lots of military folks are Dems, especially parents that are (were) the age of ours. Of course, those were the old fashioned Democrats vs today's "Progressives".
My very conservative grandfather was a democrat. Times have changed for sure. Today he'd be a republican. Hardcore.
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My very conservative grandfather was a democrat. Times have changed for sure. Today he'd be a republican. Hardcore.
My very conservative Grandfather (who retired as the Chief of Urology from the Biloxi VA) was also a democrat and a smoker and a Methodist. When he decided to marry my Grandmother, he became a Republican non-smoking Baptist. My G-Mom musta been pretty hawt back in the day.
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I started paying attention...
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Growing up neither of my parents were intrested in politics. My dad was in the military so he accepted who was the POTUS as his boss. My mom never cared until this last election and that is because I told her she needed to wake up and pay attention to what is happening to our country
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Your dad was career AF and a Democrat? :o
Yeah gal, he was, but he was OLD style democrat ... my mom's side though ....whew! heavy heavy union, die hard socialist with mygeneration being libby libs ... as in "we all breath the same air". My brother, the youngun's and I are the "black sheep". :naughty: Baby Girl is a conservative republican at heart, but she hasn't quite worked out how that can work and still be "tolerant" and kind ... (her daddy is a lib) but she's learning and finding that the liberal version of tolerance isn't all it's cracked up to be :cheersmate: