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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on October 03, 2010, 07:23:05 PM
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apex nerd (27 posts) Sun Oct-03-10 08:14 PM
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The One Nation Rally Paradox
I've learned two things about the One Nation Rally this weekend.
Actually, I've learned three things, because I didn't know there was a
One Nation Rally in D.C. this weekend. Go figure.
Beyond the existence of the rally, though... I've been apprised of two
very important facts by the conservative blogosphere.
1. The rally was very poorly attended and no where near as many people
attended the rally as attended Glenn Beck's Restoring Honor event in
August (or I am now calling it... GlennStock.)
2. Those few who attended One Nation left substantially more trash in the
park than did the attendees of GlennStock.
Here are some links.
From redblueamerica.com
From escapingmediocrity
From hotairpundit
From freerepublic
From BigGovernment
From michellemalkin
The narrative is pretty clear.
Even though a lot more people attended GlennStock... they left behind a
lot less trash than the attendees of One Nation (or as Michelle Malkin
calls it... Left-a-palooza).
Well, that's weird.
Because if GlennStock left behind so much less trash, then that
suggests that it wasn't as well attended as Left-A-Palooza.
So, did about a hundred hippies just show up in D.C. with VW buses full
of recycling and spent the afternoon throwing trash around?
If you look at the evidence that the right has been focusing on... you
don't have to be Gil Grissom from CSI to reckon that if there was so
much more trash left behind after one event than another then that
suggests the event with more trash also had higher attendance.
Of course, Gris is a dirty commie hippie who likes to play with bugs.
(Cue your favorite riff from your favorite Who song here....
kee-RANNNNNNGGGG!! Budda-THUMP.)
Because their interpretation of the evidence is that the Left are
really really messy and they really really hate the environment...
No really... check it out.
"This proves that liberals are far worse custodians of the environment than conservatives. They expect someone else to clean up their mess. Liberals are filthy polluters when it comes to litter."
RedBlueAmerica
"The commies weren’t very clean, either."
BigGovernment
"Rally signs and water bottles littered the area and trash cans spilled other refuse out to where passing pedestrians kicked it down the sidewalk.
The marchers left the Mall today in a condition that paled in comparison to the pristine scenery left behind by 8/28's “Restoring Honor†crowd."
TheBlaze
The narrative from the right is that a few hundred hippies piled into their VW vans (leaking oil, of course), piled them to the roof with recycling and garbage, and then drove them to D.C. and threw the trash everywhere. Because if so few people generated so much litter, they each attendee must have been instructed to bring a Hefty bag full of garbage with them and then they all dumped that garbage on Memorial Park on cue, right after roasting marshmallows around a roaring campfire fueled entirely with American Flags, and making S'Mores with free trade chocolate.
Of course, I suspect that the presence of so much more trash suggests the presence of so many more people.
But I'm one of those dirty commie hippies. What do I know?
See you on election day.
It Ain't Over 'Til Its Over.
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Only one reply. :)
ProSense (1000+ posts) Sun Oct-03-10 08:17 PM
Response to Original message
1. Is there any reason why you went to such lengths to interpret and link to this RW drivel? n/t
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Or, another interpretation would be that the conservatives had a greater respect for the Nation's capitol and left less trash than a bunch of bussed in union members :uhsure:
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TheWebHead (1000+ posts)
Sun Oct-03-10 08:31 PM
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6. the garbage and attendance narrative
Edited on Sun Oct-03-10 08:32 PM by TheWebHead
is essentially that one side believes in personal responsibility and cleans up their own mess, bringing whatever food packaging or signs back with them to dispose later, while the left discards signs and meals provided to them by their unions and assumes a government worker performing at 1/2 the efficiency of someone from the private sector while earning double the pay will come and clean it up later. And yeah, that is an inflammatory narrative but that's what you should be prepared to argue again. It's difficult to gauge though by viewing sporadic photos where you can cherry pick evidence that backs up your preconceived opinion.
Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Sun Oct-03-10 08:32 PM
Response to Original message
7. Unrec.
And for our friends elsewhere, apropos of nothing, get ready for the spanking this November.
You know who you are.
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apex nerd (32 posts)
Sun Oct-03-10 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #5
12. Oh, Sorry, Is This The Cool Kid's Table?
Edited on Sun Oct-03-10 08:50 PM by apex nerd
Think I'll sit here anyway.
Hang your thousand posts in your ass.
apex nerd (32 posts)
Sun Oct-03-10 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #6
14. The RW Cherry Picked the Wrong Evidence
If there was more trash at One Nation, there were more people at One Nation.
The RW has cherry picked the photos to show small crowds at One Nation and then make the error of focusing on the only evidence that is not subject to the same cherry picking as a crowd size photo.
The trash after an event tells a more accurate tale of the attendance of the event that a photo taken at any given 15 minute interval.
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I remember seeing the pictures after Glenn Becks rally. There was tons of garbage there, but it was all in the garbage cans or was piled up as neatly as possible by the trash cans. Liberals couldn't be concerned with their trash once the possibility of being on camera went away.
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apex nerd (27 posts) Sun Oct-03-10 08:14 PM
Original message
The One Nation Rally Paradox
I've learned two things about the One Nation Rally this weekend.
Actually, I've learned three things, because I didn't know there was a
One Nation Rally in D.C. this weekend. Go figure. (must have been toking up some of that killer medical marijuana!!)
Beyond the existence of the rally, though... I've been apprised of two
very important facts by the conservative blogosphere.
1. The rally was very poorly attended and no where near as many people
attended the rally as attended Glenn Beck's Restoring Honor event in
August (or I am now calling it... GlennStock.) (Very true you commie scum.)
2. Those few who attended One Nation left substantially more trash in the
park than did the attendees of GlennStock. (Very true you commie scum.)
Even though a lot more people attended GlennStock... they left behind a
lot less trash than the attendees of One Nation (or as Michelle Malkin
calls it... Left-a-palooza). (hey DUmmie, hippie. You JUST ADMITTED that there were more at 8/28. DUmmie!)
Well, that's weird.
Because if GlennStock left behind so much less trash, then that
suggests that it wasn't as well attended as Left-A-Palooza. (You FAIL! Thanks for playing!)
So, did about a hundred hippies just show up in D.C. with VW buses full
of recycling and spent the afternoon throwing trash around? (No, but there were a lot of socialists and commies there, throwing thrash around along with the hippies and union thugs.)
But I'm one of those dirty commie hippies. What do I know? (Yes. Yes, you are. You're also a socialist if you want what the imposter wants for the U.S.)
See you on election day.
It Ain't Over 'Til Its Over. (HA HA!! Sounds like some hippe commie scum just got their ass kicked!! lol) :bird:
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TheWebHead
the narrative is that one side believes in personal responsibility and cleans up their own mess..... while the left discards signs and meals provided to them by their unions and assumes a government worker performing at 1/2 the efficiency of someone from the private sector while earning double the pay will come and clean it up later.
Well, it's true, You can sit there all day and deny it, but gov't oversight trumping personal responsibility is a foundation of the liberal platform.
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And over at the thread, like a terrier refusing to let go the grip, they are fiercely hanging on to the theory of "more garbage = the most people. It must be true. No other explanation."
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And over at the thread, like a terrier refusing to let go the grip, they are fiercely hanging on to the theory of "more garbage = the most people. It must be true. No other explanation."
Most of the garbage looked like it was the signs they left behind. Beck asked that people not bring signs to his rally and most people complied. The left are pigs, plain and simple.
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apex nerd (33 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-04-10 12:46 AM
Response to Reply #3
11. Exactly
When I Googled this event, I got more hits from RW sources than any where else. The MSM isn't really covering this, and the RW is presenting facts that are in particular conflict with one another.
The RW seems unaware that they are presenting evidence that the One Nation rally had a much higher turnout that Restore Honor.
What does this say about the DU talking point that the RW controls the MSM? You'd think if they wanted to spike the story they'd do so in their own private corners as well but if they wanted to defame the left they would broadcast the mess and the lunacy on all the networks.
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The 'one nation' rally did accomplish one thing, sharp curtailment of large donors to the democrat party. Even with all the hype and the pushing by the unions and other commie organizations, such little turnout. IF the farthest left of the party are not enthused even if paid for the day, the donors that bet on power and not ideology have shut their wallets. The weakly attended rally was a hail Mary that got picked off and returned for a touchdown.
IMHO, the one nation rally will add 5 seats to the HOR and 1 seat to the Senate. Thanks commies united!
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Considering that protests and rallys are something conservatives don't really do, as opposed to protests and rally being something that liberals live to do, then the Restore Honor rally was a succes time a million compared to the One Nation nonsense. Besides, given who was represented at the One Nation rally, does any reasonable person want to be one nation if it means having to be one nation with trashy individuals like that? Not I.
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