liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:30 AM
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This will scare the SH!T out of you
Found this on MSNBC web site:
Is Sarah Palin the next Barack Obama?
'History does not repeat itself,' said Mark Twain, 'but it does rhyme'
When Sarah Palin takes the stage in Des Moines on Friday night to keynote the Iowa Republican Party's Reagan Dinner, she'll send the clearest signal so far that she can see the White House from her home in Wasilla, Alaska.
Video: Values Voter Summit
With C-SPAN planning live coverage of her speech (at 7 p.m. Central time), the former governor has a chance to woo not only Hawkeye voters who will be involved in the first nominating caucuses for 2012, but also a national audience curious about an intriguing figure's future.
For someone who tries to follow and make sense of American political trends, the now-probable run by Palin provokes some questions: Have we seen this movie before? Will the upcoming presidential campaign look strangely like the last one? Not to be impertinent or impolitic, could Sarah Palin be the next Barack Obama?
"History does not repeat itself," Mark Twain is often quoted as saying, "but it does rhyme." Look closely and the rhyme scheme for Palin and Obama is stunningly similar — despite their continent-spanning differences on issues and ideology.
Both figures emerged quickly on the national scene and used their considerable charisma to become media-magnified political celebrities.
Both were tapped to deliver major speeches at national party conventions — Obama's keynote address to Democrats in 2004 and Palin's acceptance of the GOP's vice-presidential nomination in 2008 — and in each case Americans at large took notice of their rhetorical abilities and other qualities.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39230166/ns/politics-politi... /
It goes on trying to make Palin the next Obama
McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:33 AM
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1. Too much sexism, still, in the US. Especially among the demographic she will court.
They like her as RW cheerleader, but they want a chief executive with a dick.
Brickbat (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:36 AM
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4. VERY true. So many right wingers and Republicans were pissed off when McCain picked her. They voted the ticket anyway, telling themselves they were voting for McCain, but if she tops a ticket, I think that would provoke or continue the split that's growing in that party.
uncommon (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:40 AM
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9. Agreed.
JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:46 AM
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11. Actually
My fundy uncle & aunt voted for Ron Paul (they voted for Bush twice) because they felt Palin should be at home taking care of her children.
Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:33 AM
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2. Doesn't scare the shit out of me
It just tells me that MSNBC occasionally hires idiots.
wtmusic (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:34 AM
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3. Obama IQ: triple digits. Palin: "I can see Russia from Alaska".
The next Obama, except for one minor detail.
dkf (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:36 AM
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5. People don't look for governance nowadays. They just want to vote for American Idol.
Weird thing is you would have thought the Internet and alternative media would have made the intellectual deficiency mode obvious but it actually allows the weird attraction to obfuscate it.
Rex (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:38 AM
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6. Fluff piece from the drooling dittoheads at msnbc.
Sorry but one small problem presents itself with this line of reasoning - Obama has probably read a lot of Mark Twain, where as Sarah has no idea who he is (runs the train station down on 13th street?) and never will.
And when Sarah gives her speeches they end up being (sometimes) a flop or she exposes her stupidity on her hand. Obama hasn't acted like an idiot, publicly, that I have seen in any speech given. Obama also has a very sophisticated lexicon that just cannot be taught to Sarah no matter how many times she reads the teleprompter. 'Donchaknow' is not presidential material and never will be.
Sorry, but Quitter Sarah has nothing on President Obama. They ain't even in the same league.
It is like comparing George W. Bush to Richard M. Nixon.
classof56 (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:39 AM
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8. Now there's a real head-shaker. Palin the next Obama?
How odd that Schmulhl (not a name I'm familiar with I must admit) makes this comparison when the Love Palin types hate Obama so very much. I'd think they'd want Palin to be anything but like Obama. Go figure...
WTF indeed!
Winterblues (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:42 AM
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10. When did Obama quit right in the middle of his public service?
They are not even in the same ball park. Obama can tell you what newspapers and magazines he reads. He also knows History and can demonstrate competence. Like I say, not even in the same ball park..
Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:47 AM
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12. Yeah, and my haircut is similar to Obama's
I'll start packing now!
sofa king (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:56 AM
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15. Do they mean if she had an education, a record of competence, an ability to empathize...
... and command of the English language?
Yes, once she gets all of those things, she might bear comparison to President Obama. But if she did, she wouldn't be a Republican anymore.
Spike89 (712 posts) Fri Sep-17-10 12:00 PM
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16. Aside from the whole competency issue...
The circumstances are incredibly different. Obama was coming in on the heels of a tired and failed 2-term presidency with the repugs totally discredited. Palin faces an incumbent president from a party that still has a real advantage over the repugs. IF they were equal, Obama would still win easily with his advantages. They are NOT even close to equal.
If the repugs have a chance, they would have to nominate either a left-leaning "centrist" (or at least someone they can package as such) or a total cypher that doesn't have a record and thus can be whatever voters are looking for. Palin won't even come close to the nomination.
That sounds like you are calling Obama stupid to me. No – I am not going to call him stupid. He just doesn’t strike me as particularly smart. Bill Clinton is a smart guy – he would run intellectual circles around Barack Obama. And Bill Clinton loved the politics of being president. Obama seems to think he shouldn’t have to be bothered, which has created a considerable amount of conflict among his staff.
wtmusic (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:34 AM
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3. Obama IQ: triple digits. Palin: "I can see Russia from Alaska".
The next Obama, except for one minor detail.
Winterblues (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:42 AM:confused: But that's exactly what he did. Otherwise, he'd still be in the Senate.
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10. When did Obama quit right in the middle of his public service?
QuoteWinterblues (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:42 AM:confused: But that's exactly what he did. Otherwise, he'd still be in the Senate.
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10. When did Obama quit right in the middle of his public service?
Winterblues (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:42 AMHence the very reason the 0BUMbler needs to use the tele-prompter even while ordering a pizza from Domino's.
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10. When did Obama quit right in the middle of his public service?
They are not even in the same ball park. Obama can tell you what newspapers and magazines he reads. He also knows History and can demonstrate competence. Like I say, not even in the same ball park.
Winterblues (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:42 AMActually, he quit his Senate job 143 days into it to run for Prez. This is too easy.
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10. When did Obama quit right in the middle of his public service?
Seriously? Like when he voted "present"? Yep, that's some service.
Check out this story about the Obama Regime from a former staffer;Thanks for that link, reading it now, funny and depressing all at once.
http://newsflavor.com/opinions/white-house-insider-on-obama-the-president-is-losing-it/
Is there any sane person that does not think that a narcissist like Obama would not be touting great grades in college instead of hiding form them?
Delusional, I like it. Mainly on the part of how smart and well spoken Obama is. He is a disaster and they are whistling past the grave yard.
wtmusic (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:34 AMI doubt it. We still haven't seen his college grades.
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3. Obama IQ: triple digits.
Palin: "I can see Russia from Alaska".I think she actually said that, which is true, not the SNL quote of "I can see Russia from my house." by Tina Fey that got unending national press.
The next Obama, except for one minor detail.Palin's got BALLS. Obama doesn't
I doubt it. We still haven't seen his college grades.
Or his birth certificateI think she actually said that, which is true, not the SNL quote of "I can see Russia from my house." by Tina Fey that got unending national press.Palin's got BALLS. Obama doesn't
liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:30 AM
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This will scare the SH!T out of you
Found this on MSNBC web site:
Is Sarah Palin the next Barack Obama?
Brickbat (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:36 AM
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4. VERY true. So many right wingers and Republicans were pissed off when McCain picked her. They voted the ticket anyway, telling themselves they were voting for McCain, but if she tops a ticket, I think that would provoke or continue the split that's growing in that party.
Read the article and most of the comments..... :lmao:
http://newsflavor.com/opinions/white-house-insider-on-obama-the-president-is-losing-it/
When I asked this insider if the media gave candidate Obama an assist throughout his campaign, it elicits a sly smile. Sure – we definitely had people in the media on our side. Absolutely. We went so far as to give them specific ideas for coverage. The ones who took that advice from the campaign were granted better access, and Obama was the biggest story in 2008, so yeah, that gave us a lot of leverage.
:bs:
Hubby and I VOTED FOR SARAH!
From the article Johnny linked:
Those in the media who failed to do their jobs as unbiased journalists need to be exposed and fired.
The news media is a business, they will do whatever brings in revenue. Any objectivity involved is purely self-imposed by the business entity concerned.
Don't hate a viper because it's a viper, that's just it's nature. But don't trust it not to bite, either.
FIXED!! :cheersmate:
The man is obviously tongue tied without the "prompter" and speaks like apissy teenagermarxist piece of garbage.
What I can't understand is the majority in this country still consider themselves Conservative. The media is far left of center and losing readers and viewers at an astounding rate! If they are indeed a business, wouldn't it make more sense to pander to the right?
Just sayin'........
It's embarrassing to admit, but I voted for McLame/Palin, solely in the hopes that the elation from a "come from behind victory" (yeah, right) :whatever: by McLame would be too much for that ol' ticker of his, and he'd keel over during the victory celebration. Then we'd have had President Palin, and this ol' country might still have a chance of surviving the meddling Marxist cluster****s in Congress.
Alas; it was not to be. :bawl:
Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:33 AM
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2. Doesn't scare the shit out of me
It just tells me that MSNBC occasionally hires idiots.
"She'll ruin any chance we have at negotiating peace!"
PREDICTION: If Palin seeks/gains the GOP canidacy for president the liberals will use islamic misogyny and bigotry as a reason to oppose her election, i.e. muslims will find it too antagonistic to deal with an avowed Christian and one that is also a woman.
"She'll ruin any chance we have at negotiating peace!"