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Title: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: formerlurker on September 16, 2010, 04:05:02 AM
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John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
By Hillary Chabot and Edward Mason  |   Thursday, September 16, 2010  |  http://www.bostonherald.com  |  Local Politics

Photo by Matthew West
U.S. Sen. John Kerry yesterday mocked Republicans as “Sarah Palin’s party” even as the New Hampshire Senate candidate she backed claimed victory in Tuesday’s primary and a Tea Party favorite emerged as the GOP’s best hope to break the Democratic stranglehold on the Bay State delegation.

“I think the Tea Party couldn’t ask for any better publicity than to be denounced by a millionaire who dodges paying taxes on his yacht,” said conservative gadfly Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit.

http://bostonherald.com/news/politics/view.bg?articleid=1281831&format=text
Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: thundley4 on September 16, 2010, 09:31:45 AM
In other news, John Effin' Kerry may be up for the Secretary of State job, should Hillary choose a different path.
Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: seabelle on September 16, 2010, 09:46:56 AM
In other news, John Effin' Kerry may be up for the Secretary of State job, should Hillary choose a different path.

Don't the Dems have any fresh faces to pump up their ranks?  Same ole retreads are getting boring, especially the professional pols they keep trotting out.

Not to complain, it's sure firing up the GOP base  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 16, 2010, 10:11:27 AM
Don't the Dems have any fresh faces to pump up their ranks?  Same ole retreads are getting boring, especially the professional pols they keep trotting out.

Not to complain, it's sure firing up the GOP base  :cheersmate:

Let's not get in the enemy's way while they are busy shooting themselves in the foot, now.  The GOP establishment seems to suffer from the same problem to some extent, but thanks to Sarah and the TEA partiers they seem to be getting some schooling on it this time around.
Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: true_blood on September 16, 2010, 12:41:07 PM
In other news, John Effin' Kerry may be up for the Secretary of State job, should Hillary choose a different path.
God, I hope not. I can't stand John "Frankenstein" Kerry. Talk about a two faced, egotistical dickbag! :bird:
Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: NHSparky on September 16, 2010, 03:56:50 PM
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“Sarah Palin’s party” even as the New Hampshire Senate candidate she backed claimed victory in Tuesday’s primary

Hmmmmm...and here I thought that Lamontagne was the one who got the backing of the Tea Party folks in NH.

Oh, what the hell do I know, right?
Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: Duke Nukum on September 16, 2010, 05:11:32 PM
I just think he's bitter because he thought he was Harry's Pet.
Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 16, 2010, 06:00:17 PM
Let's not get in the enemy's way while they are busy shooting themselves in the foot, now.

Correct.  I believe it was Sun Tzu who said something along the lines of, "If your enemy is making mistakes, do not stop him."
Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: Freeper on September 16, 2010, 08:31:08 PM
The Tea Party has the Dems and some of the GOP running scared.
If things keep going like they are now I predict in 2 to 3 election cycles the Tea Party will be in power. The GOP will be forced back to the right and the Dems will be collecting unemployment.


Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: thundley4 on September 17, 2010, 04:54:38 AM
The Tea Party has the Dems and some of the GOP running scared.
If things keep going like they are now I predict in 2 to 3 election cycles the Tea Party will be in power. The GOP will be forced back to the right and the Dems will be collecting unemployment.




Is it just me , or is it a misnomer to refer to the Tea Party as a separate party? I think they are more of a faction within the Republican party.  It's the conservative part that has been ignored for too long and is finding their voice again, but without the hard religious right leading them this time.
Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: Freeper on September 17, 2010, 06:05:32 AM
Is it just me , or is it a misnomer to refer to the Tea Party as a separate party? I think they are more of a faction within the Republican party.  It's the conservative part that has been ignored for too long and is finding their voice again, but without the hard religious right leading them this time.

I think in some ways they are. because I believe if they could change the democratic party to represent them they would go that route instead. Since the GOP is supposed to reflect what they believe they are trying to work within that party.

Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: 5412 on September 17, 2010, 07:36:29 AM
The Tea Party has the Dems and some of the GOP running scared.
If things keep going like they are now I predict in 2 to 3 election cycles the Tea Party will be in power. The GOP will be forced back to the right and the Dems will be collecting unemployment.




HI,

I feel you said the magic words, two or three elections cycles.  Career politicians still belive that the conservative movement is a fad and will fade away.  We cannot let that happen.

regards,
5412
Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 17, 2010, 08:57:36 AM
A clean break between the TEA Partiers and the GOP would be a strategic disaster for the GOP and doom the TEA people to the long-term irrelevance that has been the fate of every third party since the GOP was formed 160-odd years ago.  None of them have succeeded in doing anything more positive than gaining the odd Congressional seat, but many of them have had enough support to be the spoiler and ensure the major party closest to their own position comes in second.  It's a long history of self-destruction, and at this juncture splitting completely away from the more conservative of the two major parties is pretty sure way to screw the pooch royally.
On the plus side, the odds favor taking the House but only getting into reliably-solid filibuster territory in the Senate and the slates are pretty well set by now, so if they were going to do anything so boneheaded in an excess of hubris and enthusiasm, now would be the time when it would do the least damage.
Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: Wineslob on September 17, 2010, 10:25:29 AM
Interesting that many people see the Tea Party (political belief) as a separate entity from the GOP. I don't. What I see is a restructuring of the GOP by the voters.
Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: DefiantSix on September 17, 2010, 10:40:41 AM
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John Kerry bitter...

I suppose he's clinging to his religion and his guns, too. ****er.  :bird:
Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 17, 2010, 11:02:27 AM
Wineslob, that's the outcome I'm rooting for.  Unfortunately there are a lot of people on both sides of the spectrum who are dying to see it as a separate entity challenging the GOP from without.  Such things naturally appeal to the press and other shallow thinkers.   
Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: Wineslob on September 17, 2010, 12:17:43 PM
DAT, I think we actually do have that now, but the MSM is doing it's damnedest to camouflage that fact.
Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: Freeper on September 18, 2010, 08:34:27 AM
Interesting that many people see the Tea Party (political belief) as a separate entity from the GOP. I don't. What I see is a restructuring of the GOP by the voters.

The Tea party and the GOP are 2 different entities. The Tea party is trying to merge with the GOP and take out the trash within the GOP. I honestly believe if a third party was a viable option they would become that third party.
The only way to bring the change that we need is to do it within  one of the existing parties. If the GOP takes the Tea party for granted then they will be wondering why the dems won yet again in Nov.


Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: Freeper on September 18, 2010, 08:48:08 AM
HI,

I feel you said the magic words, two or three elections cycles.  Career politicians still belive that the conservative movement is a fad and will fade away.  We cannot let that happen.

regards,
5412

Change will not come over night. Just like Obama can't get all his socialist utopia plans done right away we can't return America to the land of the free overnight either. But, it is worth it to try.
Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: 5412 on September 18, 2010, 10:32:24 PM
Change will not come over night. Just like Obama can't get all his socialist utopia plans done right away we can't return America to the land of the free overnight either. But, it is worth it to try.


Hi,

I caught a blurb on TV where the Murkowski gal has decided to do as Crist did in Florida and run as an independent.  Looks like the ruling class ain't gonna give up so easily.  If they keep that shit up, and Miller can do as well as Rubio, some folks will really learn some lessons the hard way.

If Charlie Crist had a brain he would have conceded to Rubio, congratulated him, campaigned for him, then in two years he could have easily been a senator and kicked Nelson's ass.  Now Crist is in the dumper and likely has little political future.

regards,
5412
Title: Re: John Kerry bitter as Tea Party gains steam
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 19, 2010, 08:53:17 AM
Yeah, funny how Krauthammer and the other RINO-lovers seem to be unloading all their vitriol on the actual GOP primary winners instead of Murkowsky and Crist, innit?