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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ralph Wiggum on September 13, 2010, 03:55:40 PM
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For the life of me, I don't recall hearing about this at the DUmp before. Anyone in the "memory division" who remembers this?
bearfan454 (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-12-10 09:08 PM
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The bearfan family needs your help (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9122724)
Required disclaimer: The administrators of Democratic Underground have given permission for one discussion thread on this topic. The administrators of Democratic Underground make no claims regarding the legitimacy or illegitimacy of this fund raising effort. Permission was granted by Skinner on 7/5/09, and the moderators have been notified.
About a year ago, our daughter was arrested and falsely accused of a felony by partisan Republican prosecutors in Williamson County, Tx. We hired a very competent attorney to ensure that her civil rights were protected and to ensure her right to a fair trial. We experienced many rescheduled court dates and bureaucratic red tape throughout this experience. Throughout the last year we have worked extra hours at our jobs, depleted our savings, and obtained a second mortgage on our home. We have expended all of our financial resources and desperately need more funding to continue our fight for her freedom. This is our last resort. We can win this fight with your help. Our daughter is a good person, wife, and mother. She deserves the right to legal representation. Would you please help us pay for her defense? You can donate here:
http://tinyurl.com/martinezlegal
We thank you from the bottom of our hearts for your contributions, time, and consideration.
The Bearfan family
A low post-count DUmmy asks the first question I would have asked:
ThomasQED (228 posts) Sun Sep-12-10 09:55 PM
Response to Original message
10. Is there no information about the case?
bearfan454 (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-12-10 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. The attorneys made it clear that we can't discuss
details since the case is still ongoing.
:whatever:
COLGATE4 (483 posts) Mon Sep-13-10 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #11
34. You can certainly inform us what she is charged with?
There's a sucker born every minute, and obviously the DUmmies are falling for this hook, line & sinker.
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I can't believe DU actually gave him permission to ask for money.
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For the life of me, I don't recall hearing about this at the DUmp before. Anyone in the "memory division" who remembers this?
It sounds vaguely familiar but there's nothing here on it.
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I can't believe DU actually gave him permission to ask for money.
Especially since bearfan won't even say what the charges are for.
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It sounds vaguely familiar but there's nothing here on it.
Yeah, I looked here and TOS and came up with nothing.
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WOW! look at that link the OP provided, they give no details at all and they're asking for employment info.
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What's the old saying? A fool and his money are soon parted?
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I found the Williamson County judicial records site, and you have to have a case number OR a full name to do any kind of lookup.
http://judicialrecords.wilco.org/default.aspx
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I looked up the Williamson County judicial records, and you have to have a case number OR a full name to do any kind of lookup.
http://judicialrecords.wilco.org/default.aspx
Tried that too. Was looking for an attorney name since the link Bearscam posted had "martinezlegal" in it. Nada.
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Tried that too. Was looking for an attorney name since the link Bearscam posted had "martinezlegal" in it. Nada.
I'm not smart enough to all these serches you people are doing ....but I AM smart enough to not send the DUmmie money.
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Tried that too. Was looking for an attorney name since the link Bearscam posted had "martinezlegal" in it. Nada.
I thought that Martinez might be the DUmmy's name, or the daughter's name.
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Think $kinner could have planted this guy? I mean, it has been said over there that they're having donation problems...
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I thought that Martinez might be the DUmmy's name, or the daughter's name.
I thought the same. However, I suspect there might be a few people with the surname "Martinez" in central Texas. Plus we'd need a first name to do a search. I'm not going through every possible combination. :-)
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More than one person has inquired now:
IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-13-10 05:22 PM
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37. May I inquire as to what she is being charged with?
Thank you.
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I thought the same. However, I suspect there might be a few people with the surname "Martinez" in central Texas. Plus we'd need a first name to do a search. I'm not going through every possible combination. :-)
His name is Steve Martinez.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/bearfan454
If one can go back and look in the history of his DU Journal, that might have some info. I'm not seeing how one can see previous entries, however.
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I wonder how many times she voted for Obama?
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-12-10 09:15 PM
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4. My dear bearfan454!
It is my great honor to be able to help you and your daughter in this crisis.
I just made a donation...
I truly hope that real justice will prevail, and that your daughter will be exonerated.
Recommended.
Wonder if the CalPig will ever mention how much she gave. Either way, I think she just got her money stolen.
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His name is Steve Martinez.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/bearfan454
If one can go back and look in the history of his DU Journal, that might have some info. I'm not seeing how one can see previous entries, however.
Where's Sherman, Mr. Peabody and the Wayback machine when you need 'em?
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Think this could be her????
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/blotter/entries/2009/09/29/daycare_owner_arrest_after_bei.html
Daycare owner arrest after being accused of lifting 2-year-old by her hair
By Miguel Liscano | Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 05:38 PM
Round Rock police have arrested a Round Rock home daycare owner who they say pulled a chunk of hair off of a 2-year-old girl’s head while caring for her.
Guadalupe Martinez, 59, has been charged with injury to a child, a state jail felony, punishable by up to two years in jail. She was being held in the Williamson County Jail on Tuesday with bail set at $50,000
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Sure sounds like one of those types of cases where the defendant's family ALWAYS blames a malicious prosecutor, no?
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Oh my... (sorry Frank
Someone should send that to the DUmors. See if they support funding that wacko's case.
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WOW! look at that link the OP provided, they give no details at all and they're asking for employment info.
This at the link:
Piryx - The Social Giving Platform
Now fundraising is as easy as writing a blog or posting a status update and can be integrated into your website, product or mobile app. With Piryx, causes raise more money more effectively across the web. To learn more and create your own free account visit Piryx.com.
A professional begging site. Only a DUmmy could even know of the existence of a site like that.
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Think this could be her????
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/blotter/entries/2009/09/29/daycare_owner_arrest_after_bei.html.
Sure sounds like one of those types of cases where the defendant's family ALWAYS blames a malicious prosecutor, no?
Hmm I don't believe Bear Fan is old enough to have a 59 year old daughter.
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I thought the same. However, I suspect there might be a few people with the surname "Martinez" in central Texas. Plus we'd need a first name to do a search. I'm not going through every possible combination. :-)
Could have taken a shot in the dark and tried Carlos first.
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Wonder if the CalPig will ever mention how much she gave. Either way, I think she just got her money stolen.
She wrote a poem and after expenses and royalties are paid, Bear gets the proceeds.
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Where's Sherman, Mr. Peabody and the Wayback machine when you need 'em?
You do know there really is a Wayback Machine (http://www.archive.org/web/web.php) to do exactly what you want to?
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Sep-13-10 07:28 PM
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42. What is your daughter's first name?
bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Sep-13-10 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. We aren't even allowed to say that.
We had to run this by the attorney before we could post it.
OK, I'm not a Lawyer, but has anyone ever heard of this at all? I know that juvenile's are protected when it comes to their names, but why can't this person asking for money reveal anything at all?
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OK, I'm not a Lawyer, but has anyone ever heard of this at all? I know that juvenile's are protected when it comes to their names, but why can't this person asking for money reveal anything at all?
No, that's total horseshit. If the so-called daughter is currently a defendant in a felony beef, it's a matter of public record, so for this chooch to try claiming that he "isn't allowed" to give up her first name is all the proof a thinking person needs to conclude that this guy is running some serious game on the primitives, starting with skinner.
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No, that's total horseshit. If the so-called daughter is currently a defendant in a felony beef, it's a matter of public record, so for this chooch to try claiming that he "isn't allowed" to give up her first name is all the proof a thinking person needs to conclude that this guy is running some serious game on the primitives, starting with skinner.
I thought felonies were part of the public record too.
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Is it just me or has there been a lot more begging going on over there ? Not just authorized like this one. I for one am surprised Skinhead is allowing the competition. Several times I have seen threads with links to a wish list type url but I have never investigated it. Hum.
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Hmm I don't believe Bear Fan is old enough to have a 59 year old daughter.
Maybe the "daughter" is actually the wife, but he figured the persecuted daughter story would make him more money...
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I thought felonies were part of the public record too.
Oh, they are, which is why I think this guy is full of shit.
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all the proof a thinking person needs to conclude that this guy is running some serious game on the primitives, starting with skinner.
If this is how it's going down, I don't know how I feel about it. My loathing of the DUmors is battling with my dislike of scammer idiots.
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SCAM SCAM SCAM!!
I can see why the attorney doesn't want the case details discussed, but the daughter's first name and charges are public record and CAN be shared.
I'm about 120% positive this is a scam. Why not just use PayPal for donations? I've never even heard of the site they are using.
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SCAM SCAM SCAM!!
I can see why the attorney doesn't want the case details discussed, but the daughter's first name and charges are public record and CAN be shared.
I'm about 120% positive this is a scam. Why not just use PayPal for donations? I've never even heard of the site they are using.
I think that to the DUmmies this site gives a little more air of legitimacy to the DUmmies than Pay-Pal does. :mental:
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His name is Steve Martinez.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/bearfan454
If one can go back and look in the history of his DU Journal, that might have some info. I'm not seeing how one can see previous entries, however.
It's Stevo Martinez and he lives in Taylor, Texas - he's very fond of writing "letters to the editor" (read: moonbat rants) to the local paper. There's also a "Mrs. Bearfan 454" that posts at the DUmp and is apparently the wife.
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Interesting, it seems that Bearfan himself had a felony issue about 6 years ago:
bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-03-04 12:28 AM
Response to Reply #17
19. Without
My wife left me and I have a felony trial coming up for something stupid I did when intoxicated.
Link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x1627297#1627306)
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They'll fall for anything.
Cindie
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If the DUmmies are stupid enough to give then I have some perfect ocean front property I want to sell them in the heart of Arizonia
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Maybe the "daughter" is actually the wife, but he figured the persecuted daughter story would make him more money...
You might be onto something . . .
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They'll fall for anything.
Cindie
And stand for nothing.
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Me thinks this poser doesn't want any info out for the simple reason after reading the crime and what evidence is published, would immediately realize said defendant is as guilty as hell and they would be throwing their money away!
That's my read anyway. Even if the link posted isn't the case against his daughter/wife, even DUmmies have a hard time donating money for the abuse of kids! What other reason could he have for not sharing the charges?
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Me thinks this poser doesn't want any info out for the simple reason after reading the crime and what evidence is published, would immediately realize said defendant is as guilty as hell and they would be throwing their money away!
That's my read anyway. Even if the link posted isn't the case against his daughter/wife, even DUmmies have a hard time donating money for the abuse of kids! What other reason could he have for not sharing the charges?
ITA! it's just easier to say she was framed by Republicans YET give absolutely nothing to back that up.
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By the way Fellow Cavers I need to raise money for my dog.
The partisan democrats have convicted him of a felony.
I can't give any details but you can donate to the fund.
:-)
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... and a prosecutor jumped out of the bushes.
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Just $10 away from getting bearfan's daughter acquitted!
:lmao:
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Just $10 away from getting bearfan's daughter acquitted!
:lmao:
My donation will be on the way within 24 business hours. :whatever:
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By the way Fellow Cavers I need to raise money for my dog.
The partisan democrats have convicted him of a felony.
I can't give any details but you can donate to the fund.
:-)
Give me an address and I'll send ya some dog biscuits in 24 business hours!
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Maybe the "daughter" is actually the wife, but he figured the persecuted daughter story would make him more money...
I think you're right. The name, county and time-frame are correct and considering the charges saying it was his daughter would throw anybody off when they went looking for it.
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By the way Fellow Cavers I need to raise money for my dog.
The partisan democrats have convicted him of a felony.
I can't give any details but you can donate to the fund.
:-)
Oh my Dear Freeper,
I am so upset to hear of your doggie's unfortunate plight. Sadly, I have just invested my entire budget on mouse traps. I will, however, send you healing white light to bolster his spirits until my traps start producing, do you think he would like mouse meat? :rotf:
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By the way Fellow Cavers I need to raise money for my dog.
The partisan democrats have convicted him of a felony.
I can't give any details but you can donate to the fund.
:-)
If he's in dog pound like the local one....they literally have you both by the balls.
They're going to charge you to get your dog back but they're going to keep his balls.
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By the way Fellow Cavers I need to raise money for my dog.
The partisan democrats have convicted him of a felony.
I can't give any details but you can donate to the fund.
:-)
I'm broke..but here's a pic of my hand.
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i310/ReeW/Myhand-1.jpg)
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I'm broke..but here's a pic of my hand.
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i310/ReeW/Myhand-1.jpg)
But if you didn't get your nails 'did', you would have money to donate!!!!!!
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But if you didn't get your nails 'did', you would have money to donate!!!!!!
LOL :-)
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But if you didn't get your nails 'did', you would have money to donate!!!!!!
Tough crowd! :rimshot:
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-13-10 07:28 PM
Response to Original message
42. What is your daughter's first name?
bearfan454 (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-13-10 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. We aren't even allowed to say that.
We had to run this by the attorney before we could post it.
:bs:
You can't even say your daughter's name? :wtf2:
I can't believe that $kimmer is even allowing this clown to beg for money.
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Wha did you expect from King DUmor? He may even get a cut. Who knows.
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Wha did you expect from King DUmor? He may even get a cut. Who knows.
Hell, he might even be Skimmer's sock puppet, seein' as how donations hit rock bottom this quarter! lol!
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:bow:
I think I mentioned that earlier in the thread, actually. ;)
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It's the DUmp, so I have a 97% certainty that the request is 95% a scam.
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How much money so far has bear scammed? Has anybody found any more about this through that court records link? I found mrbear's old criminal files but nada on the wife or daughter.
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How much money so far has bear scammed? Has anybody found any more about this through that court records link? I found mrbear's old criminal files but nada on the wife or daughter.
I don't think as much as in the old days. For one thing, there are fewer DUmmies now. For another, even the dumbest people, after getting scammed 4 or 5 times just aren't going to have the cash for the 6th time.
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I'm not smart enough to all these serches you people are doing ....but I AM smart enough to not send the DUmmie money.
:hi5: :hi5:
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I'm broke..but here's a pic of my hand.
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i310/ReeW/Myhand-1.jpg)
My gosh Ree, your posts make me snort out loud funny noises!
You must be feeling better. So happy :heart:
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If the DUmmies are stupid enough to give then I have some perfect ocean front property I want to sell them in the heart of Arizonia
NO! We already have way too many idiots, legal and illegal, in Arizona. :bawl:
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Might be- wife is Marsha/Marta (51) and daughter is Ericka (35)?
11/19/03- Erica Martinez, 29, of 216 'E" St., Granger, Court Commitment, Arrested by SPD at the station.(http://www.yakimavalleynews.net/todays_arrests_2003.htm) Nothing in Williamson Co.
Daddy Stevo has a few arrests himself in Williamson Co.; DWI, Failure to Stop and Render Aid, and the latest was Aggravated Assault w/Deadly Weapon.
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Daddy Stevo has a few arrests himself in Williamson Co.; DWI, Failure to Stop and Render Aid, and the latest was Aggravated Assault w/Deadly Weapon.
He sounds like a winner. ::)