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Current Events => Archives => Politics => Election 2010 => Topic started by: Godot showed up on September 13, 2010, 09:43:59 AM
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/senate/de/delaware_senate_republican_primary-1697.html
Polling Data
O'Donnell (R) 47 Castle (R) 44 Spread +3
PPP (D) Poll Date: 9/11 - 9/12 Sample : 668 LV
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Frankly I'd rather have a Dem than a Rino (Castle). It's a LOT harder to get rid of a Rino.
But I'd still take a bet that if O'Donnell wins the primary tomorrow, that she can beat Coons, although it's the %&$&*%$%^$%^$ National GOP that has done the most damage to her. It's crap like that that convinces me that Steele has to go.
Still, Rasmussen showed Castle winning in a matchup with Coons in early Sept, and O'Donnell losing--but I'd bet money on O'Donnell, given, say, 2:1 odds:
September 2, 2010
Mike Castle (R) 48%
Chris Coons (D) 37%
Some Other Candidate 6%
Not Sure 9%
Christine O’Donnell (R) 36%
Chris Coons (D) 47%
Some Other Candidate 8%
Not Sure 9%
So we have "not sure" at 9%, and a really strange swing around the Dem of 22%. A lot of that has to be Republicans who favor Castle now (for whatever uninformed, propagandized reason) who will "come home" for the general. I don't buy the bullshit AT ALL that "only Castle can win." And as I said, even if that's the case, he's worthless.
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I was just looking at the RedState site. If Castle wins, they fully intend to support him. Even a RINO is preferable to a Dem--particularly a RINO who (apparently) has said that he would vote to repeal ObamaCare.
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I was just looking at the RedState site. If Castle wins, they fully intend to support him. Even a RINO is preferable to a Dem--particularly a RINO who (apparently) has said that he would vote to repeal ObamaCare.
ObamaCare will never be repealed until after -- maybe -- Lord Zero is shitcanned in 2012. Even then, it'll be "replaced" by something only marginally less offensive.
I'm afraid we're stuck with federally-applied health care. :whatever:
But I don't wanna de-rail the thread. Please carry on.
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I was just looking at the RedState site. If Castle wins, they fully intend to support him. Even a RINO is preferable to a Dem--particularly a RINO who (apparently) has said that he would vote to repeal ObamaCare.
Oh well. That is a good point.
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BlueStateSaint, true, we can't successfully repeal Obamacare until we're rid of the Traitor-in-Chief, but if Republicans can take the Senate--a big "if"--they can sure as hell pass repeal, and force him to veto it. They can use reconciliation to repeal, just as the Dems did to pass. And they should, to force Obama to be on record as still thwarting the overwhelming majority will of the electorate. And of course, there isn't a thing the Dems could say against the use of recociliation for this one particular law.
Anyway, I wonder if we could trust Rinos to go along with that?
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But I don't wanna de-rail the thread. Please carry on.
:rotf:
Between you, Deb and Thor........ :rotf:
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:rotf:
Between you, Deb and Thor........ :rotf:
:-)
Old habits die hard.
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I hioe she beats Castle tomorrow so the Tea Party can beat the GOP. The latest polls are very close, the momentum is on Chrissy's side.
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:-)
Old habits die hard.
Hey...I learned from the experts.... :shucks:
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I hioe she beats Castle tomorrow so the Tea Party can beat the GOP. The latest polls are very close, the momentum is on Chrissy's side.
You know Tess, I agree with you. Even if we lose the general, the lesson to the Republican establishment should be: put your weight behind conservatives, not nearly worthless Rinos, and that's a lesson worth losing one seat, if it turns out that way. They'll probably say conservatives should take the opposite lesson--to support whomever their dear lRino leaders say they should support--but they'd better understand that there's exactly ZERO chance of that.
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Yeah that! The chances of actually gaining the Senate are fairly remote, unless the Dems step on it even more big time than they have already in the next seven weeks, so while more is better, it's also important that the GOP receive a message that it isn't business as usual as long as get far enough in the Senate to have a clean and reliable filibuster (Not counting McCain, Snow, etc. as 'Reliable').
With a far left Democrat party, starting with your own guys in the middle and feeling squishy goodness about their own bipartisan moderation is a sure recipe to end up somewhere in the middle of the LEFT of the spectrum nationally when the smoke clears.
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looking good so far, but the site is overloaded now I think:
http://elections.delaware.gov/results/html/unofresl.shtml3
UNITED STATES SENATOR
71 of 325 Districts Reported
REPUBLICAN PARTY
MICHAEL N. CASTLE 5194 187 5381 44 . 1 %
CHRISTINE O’DONNELL 6661 170 6831 55 . 9 %
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I hioe she beats Castle tomorrow so the Tea Party can beat the GOP. The latest polls are very close, the momentum is on Chrissy's side.
:cheersmate:
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At this point it looks like Castle is DONE.. :hi5:
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From the eggheads at the Washington Post (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/senate/christine-odonnell-upsets-mike.html)...
Marketing consultant Christine O'Donnell upset Rep. Mike Castle in the Delaware Republican Senate primary tonight, handing the tea party movement a major victory and giving Democrats an unexpected chance to hold the First State seat.
The O'Donnell victory, which was considered a political impossibility as recently as a month ago, is a major boost for Democratic hopes of holding the seat once held by Vice President Joe Biden. New Castle County Executive Chris Coons was unchallenged for the Democratic Senate nomination.
:whatever:
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From the eggheads at the Washington Post (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/senate/christine-odonnell-upsets-mike.html)...
:whatever:
So she came from behind to upset the GOP establishment pick, and that means she doesn't have a chance against the Demonrat candidate?
A few more like this and maybe the GOP rulers will get the hint.
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So she came from behind to upset the GOP establishment pick, and that means she doesn't have a chance against the Demonrat candidate?
The technique worked against Palin, so, why not ? Start bashing early and often...
The only thing is people aren't going to fall for it quite so easily this time.
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The technique worked against Palin, so, why not ? Start bashing early and often...
The only thing is people aren't going to fall for it quite so easily this time.
The DUmmies are already talking about ways to bring her down. I'm not worried about them since they are contained on the island, but I'm sure the Dems already have their attack dogs in the MSM at work.
ETA: It looks like the Demonrats will be aided by the RNSC. From FR. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2589297/posts
NRSC Will Not Support O'Donnell In General Election
Fox News | 14 September 2010
Posted on Tue Sep 14 2010 21:35:04 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Lurker
Per Brett Baer, the NRSC will not support O'Donnell in the general election.
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NRSC Will Not Support O'Donnell In General Election
:bird: Then what good are you?
What do liberals have against attractive women?
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The DUmmies are already talking about ways to bring her down. I'm not worried about them since they are contained on the island, but I'm sure the Dems already have their attack dogs in the MSM at work.
ETA: It looks like the Demonrats will be aided by the RNSC. From FR. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2589297/posts
then **** the RNC.
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Guess I have one more reason not to donate to the RNC this election cycle.
AGAIN.
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I'm waiting to see if they change their tune now that O'Donnell is in. I'm not holding my breath..
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I'm waiting to see if they change their tune now that O'Donnell is in. I'm not holding my breath..
Not according to Fox and Friends this morning.
It is so wrong for the RNC to not support her. They either support her, or they support the Dems. :censored:
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Sen. Jim DeMint has a site somewhere on the net where you can donate money to conservative candidates.
Sorry.....can't locate it right now.
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Where is Steele on this issue? Is he still hiding behind his web site like the ***** he is?
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Both Rove and Perino--Rove especially--savaged O'Donnell last night on Hannity. Talk about giving ammo to the enemy! Both pissed me off big time.
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Here's Jim DeMint's PAC; the siteis pretty slow loading:
https://senateconservatives.com/takeamericaback
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/demints-pac-looks-raise-174k-odonnell-next-week
DeMint's PAC Looks to Raise $174K for O'Donnell "By Next Week"
BY John McCormack
September 15, 2010 12:23 AM
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Rove was still trashing her this morning on FNC. :bird: However, it looks like the RNSC has gottena clue.
If you Tweet it, they will succumb.
That might be the lesson today as the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) has just announced that it will support Republican “tea party†candidate Christine O’Donnell in Delaware.
NRSC Chairman John Cornyn, Republican Senator from Texas, released a statement announcing the committee’s support:
Let there be no mistake: The National Republican Senatorial Committee – and I personally as the committee’s chairman – strongly stand by all of our Republican nominees, including Christine O’Donnell in Delaware.
I reached out to Christine this morning, and as I have conveyed to all of our nominees, I offered her my personal congratulations and let her know that she has our support. This support includes a check for $42,000 – the maximum allowable donation that we have provided to all of our nominees – which the NRSC will send to her campaign today. [Read Cornyn's full statement at Politico.]
That’s a reversal from yesterday, when it was believed the NRSC would not support O’Donnell. However, NRSC spokesman Brian Walsh did leave the door open for a change of heart. “We reserve the right, as the Democrats do, to invest money in any race at any time,†he said.
TheBlaze (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/about-face-nrsc-will-support-odonnell-give-her-42000/)
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Press Release from the Tea Party Express:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: September 14, 2010
The Tea Party Express issued the following statement in response to preliminary reports that the National Republican Senatorial Committee would not support their own nominee for U.S. Senate in Delaware:
"The National Republican Senatorial Committee has reportedly said they will not support their own nominee for U.S. Senate in Delaware. This is a rash statement that hopefully they will reconsider once good judgment sets in.
"The NRSC tried to meddle in the vote recount for liberal Republican Lisa Murkowski in Alaska. Now they say they aren't committed to supporting their own nominee in Delaware? When will this insanity stop?
"We encourage the NRSC to take a night off, get some sleep, and reconsider their rash statements. It is because of inexcusable conduct in Delaware and Alaska that so many conservatives have turned to the Tea Party Express, offering their support and their donations. These people have lost faith in the NRSC as just another big-government, Washington, D.C.-based organization that has contributed to the problems this country currently faces.
"If the NRSC is committed to defeating Democrats in November, then it is time for them to honor their mission statement and do just that. If they fail to do so, then they can expect millions of conservatives to continue to steer their donations and volunteer hours elsewhere.
"Wake up NRSC, the reason the tea party movement has grown into such a powerful force is because of the failures of establishment organizations such as yours to honor the principles of the Republican Party platform. You tried to force through the most liberal Republican in Congress on the voters of Delaware and they rejected you. Wake up, you are defying your own base, and will end up an irrelevant and impotent organization that serves to only amuse the corrupt political establishment in Washington, D.C.
"The Tea Party Express will back Christine O'Donnell in the general election along with every other candidate we've endorsed. We trust adults at the NRSC will come to their senses and realize that the people have spoken, and it's time for the NRSC to represent the Republicans it is supposed to represent."
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Defeated Castle says he won't back O'Donnell for Senate
U.S. Rep. Mike Castle will not back Christine O'Donnell in her bid for U.S. Senate after she defeated him Tuesday in the Republican primary, his campaign said this morning.
Whiny little bitch isn't he? (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20100915/NEWS/100915012)
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NRSC: No Plans to Fund O’Donnell (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/09/14/nrsc-no-plans-to-fund-odonnell/)
September 14, 2010, 11:21 PM ET
The National Republican Senatorial Committee does not plan to spend money on its Delaware Senate nominee, Christine O’Donnell, an NRSC official said tonight.
So it wasn't Cornyn that said it... gotta love un-named sources that make these big pronouncements but don't have the spine to go on record.