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Title: Did McCain intentionally take a fall in 2004?
Post by: bijou on September 05, 2010, 03:55:21 PM
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TwixVoy  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Sep-05-10 04:52 PM
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Did McCain intentionally take a fall in 2004?
   
You know to this day I really haven't believed any article I have read explaining McCains choice of Palin in 2004. She was a complete moron (even in the eyes of the sheeple) who came out of no where who brought nothing to the table.

It was such an idiotic move.... Even if I were to believe McCain was truly that stupid I find it nearly impossible to believe his handlers were.

Now we see that the US economy is fu**ed beyond recognition. The result of decades of republican moves to destroy the middle class. It was a death by one thousand cuts.

Now the American public are being told the very people who caused this mess will save them, and it's all "Obamas fault". Do these people have the memory span of a snail? The economy was in a nose dive LONG before most Americans even heard the name Obama.

I have to believe that the republicans wanted to sabotage their own campaign in 2004 so they could set up the democrats to take the fall they knew was coming.

If the republicans take congress in November it is going to be a very very very bad situation for the US and the world. Any hope anyone had left of economic recovery will be finished. The republicans will deal the death blow to the middle class this time around.
 3 responses so far, all manage to spot the major flaw in this analysis.

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Kurt_and_Hunter  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Sep-05-10 04:52 PM
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1. pssst... 2008
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9080565

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Title: Re: Did McCain intentionally take a fall in 2004?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 05, 2010, 04:09:39 PM
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Now the American public are being told the very people who caused this mess will save them, and it's all "Obamas fault". Do these people have the memory span of a snail? The economy was in a nose dive LONG before most Americans even heard the name Obama.

You people are big on charts and graphs, go check out those charts and graphs AFTER the Democrats took over in 2006.
Title: Re: Did McCain intentionally take a fall in 2004?
Post by: thundley4 on September 05, 2010, 04:19:38 PM
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You know to this day I really haven't believed any article I have read explaining McCains choice of Palin in 2004. She was a complete moron (even in the eyes of the sheeple) who came out of no where who brought nothing to the table.

Right.  His campaign took on a new life after naming Sarah Palin. The problem was that McCain's handlers didn't let her loose. We've seen how effective she can be in helping others. This moron is just showing the same fear that all of the left seems to have about SP.
Title: Re: Did McCain intentionally take a fall in 2004?
Post by: formerlurker on September 05, 2010, 04:58:02 PM
Sarah Palin derangement syndrome is absolutely delicious to witness.   It matters not what her background was.  The lady is a very gifted speaker.   You can't fake that or teach that.  You either have it or you don't.  

Their obsession with her has made her a very wealthy woman.   Atta girl!!!  
Title: Re: Did McCain intentionally take a fall in 2004?
Post by: Texacon on September 05, 2010, 05:03:06 PM
Well I guess my memory is horrible.  I do remember one thing though.



HEY TwixVoy ..... where the hell ya living now bud??  You shouldn't even be worried about the lil 'ol United States .... you should be loungin' on the beach in some exotic location at the expense of THEIR tax payers now ..... right?

 :rotf:

KC
Title: Re: Did McCain intentionally take a fall in 2004?
Post by: miskie on September 05, 2010, 05:03:50 PM
I know it felt like Obama has been around since '04, but rest assured, all the damage he has done has been in record time - less than two years.
Title: Re: Did McCain intentionally take a fall in 2004?
Post by: true_blood on September 05, 2010, 07:19:24 PM
I know it felt like Obama has been around since '04, but rest assured, all the damage he has done has been in record time - less than two years.
^^I agree man!
Title: Re: Did McCain intentionally take a fall in 2004?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 05, 2010, 07:44:04 PM
Michael Savage swears that McCain was put up by Republicans to take the fall because Republicans knew that things wouldn't turn around. I'm starting to believe that maybe that's true.
Title: Re: Did McCain intentionally take a fall in 2004?
Post by: franksolich on September 05, 2010, 08:55:07 PM
Well I guess my memory is horrible.  I do remember one thing though.



HEY TwixVoy ..... where the hell ya living now bud??  You shouldn't even be worried about the lil 'ol United States .... you should be loungin' on the beach in some exotic location at the expense of THEIR tax payers now ..... right?

 :rotf:

Yeah, I was wondering myself, as the Twix candy bar primitive, the #20 Top Primitive of 2009, seems to have been absent from Skins's island for some months now, until this.

I had been anticipating the Twix candy bar primitive moving up in the rankings for 2010, but that hiatus didn't help.
Title: Re: Did McCain intentionally take a fall in 2004?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 06, 2010, 05:43:49 AM
Michael Savage swears that McCain was put up by Republicans to take the fall because Republicans knew that things wouldn't turn around. I'm starting to believe that maybe that's true.

Yeah, so am I.  I had heard that things were so bad going in to the '08 elections that, whichever party won, they'd be out of power after the next election cycle for a while.  At least 20 years.

But, the "country-club Republicans" want to put up Romney for the 2012 election.  I think that the emergence of the tea party movement may derail Romney, and seeing that there's a certain "Sarahcuda" who has visited Iowa lately . . . we just may see Sarah Palin as the 45th President, being inaugurated on January 20th, 2013.
Title: Re: Did McCain intentionally take a fall in 2004?
Post by: Ballygrl on September 06, 2010, 08:14:13 AM
Yeah, so am I.  I had heard that things were so bad going in to the '08 elections that, whichever party won, they'd be out of power after the next election cycle for a while.  At least 20 years.

But, the "country-club Republicans" want to put up Romney for the 2012 election.  I think that the emergence of the tea party movement may derail Romney, and seeing that there's a certain "Sarahcuda" who has visited Iowa lately . . . we just may see Sarah Palin as the 45th President, being inaugurated on January 20th, 2013.

I voted for Romney in the primary in 08, I like him, but now it doesn't look good for him because he basically implemented Obamacare in Massachusetts. I really like Thune and Pawlenty, and I really like Sarah, but the media has succeeded in doing such a job trashing Sarah, and as we know the American people can be dumb, so I see a large segment never taking her seriously.
Title: Re: Did McCain intentionally take a fall in 2004?
Post by: miskie on September 06, 2010, 09:32:24 AM
I think its less McCain took a fall, and more that Republicans expected a tough run. As a RINO, McCain has a history of working with both Dems and Republicans. If the GOP was going to retain that seat, being seen as a switch hitter was the only way to do it.

If a solid conservative got the nomination, he or she would have been destroyed at the polls, as well as their chance of ever running again.
Title: Re: Did McCain intentionally take a fall in 2004?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 06, 2010, 04:20:52 PM
McCain did everything he possibly could to fail, picking Palin was the only smart thing he did, and the only thing that made it even halfway close.  He would have lost by at least a 15% spread if he had picked another RINO like himself.