PCIntern (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-03-10 03:15 PMhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9069557
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It's a MIRACLE! The tooth didn't hurt her...
Two days ago, I excavated an enormous cavity on a lady, so deep that the dental pulp, which includes the nerve, bled into the preparation. This lady is economically distressed and recently out of work, 'lazy' as the G.O.P.ers like to call those types, and so, instead of referring her to an endodontist whom she could not possibly afford, or removing the tooth myself, I chose to place a medication over the nerve, a sedative base layer over that, and a 'final' restoration.
I have called her each morning since, and to my wonderment, she has no pain, although I clearly exposed her nerve which was quite vital. I'm shocked...SHOCKED (really...I am). I'm telling you, it's just a miracle that she's all right and I'm going to call MSNBC and ask for this great story to be chronicled - why, I think I'm going to ask Chris Jansing herself - she of the Miracle! revival of a baby - to narrate this thrilling episode in the Story of the Hand of God. After all, there is no Earthly reason why my patient isn't in excruciating agony as I write this post.
Well...maybe it's because the tooth is in shock from the exposure, or the patient's pain tolerance is above the level of the sensation at this point, or maybe the nerve wasn't damaged and the medicine is doing its job, or maybe any of a dozen other possiblities...
Never mind...
scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-03-10 03:17 PM
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2. Jack Nicholson: "You can't handle the tooth"
PCIntern (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-03-10 03:19 PM
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3. Dentist's favorite time of day:
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 03:19 PM by PCIntern
tooth-hurty.
LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-03-10 03:27 PM
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5. I'm so glad you were able to help her and glad she is not now in pain. That
being said, I worry for the future for her...maybe her experience won't be like mine, but I had a cap placed on a very badly decayed tooth (really almost no tooth left at all) and although I am still grateful to the dentist who did that for me without a root canal, I ended up with an infection that simmered for a long time and then ended up being the worst pain of my life, including when I had kidney stones stuck in my ureters. I was given an antibiotic that apparently I was resistant to, so my pain went on for quite awhile until I figured it out and asked for a different antibiotic. I was in a lot of pain for about two weeks - one week before I could get an appointment for the root canal and one week afterwards until they changed antibiotics for me. And no painkillers because dentists are afraid to prescribe those these days.
I hope she won't end up with that experience - I hope her nerve stays healthy and does not die and then get infected.
She isn't in pain because the nerve is actually dead.
I am not a dentist, but I did say at a Holiday Inn last night..................
And no painkillers because dentists are afraid to prescribe those these days.
Clearly we need a three thousand page one trillion dollar dentist reform bill stat!!!
It will add at least 500,000 new jobs when we pass it to find out what is in it.
Clearly we need a three thousand page one trillion dollar dentist reform bill stat!!!
It will add at least 500,000 new jobs when we pass it to find out what is in it.
I agree with former, the nerve is probably dead. Especially if it's only been two days and the woman isn't feeling any pain still. Pain just doesn't go away in two days after invasive dental work. Yeah it won't hurt as bad but your tooth will be sore as heck. OR his story is BS.
Will only add that after 40+ years in dentistry, if it is true, she better stand by. But I think it is (http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv176/rustybayonet_2009/Things/bullshitflag.gif)
OMG! please tell me this guy isn't a Dentist? he' lying right?
Besides all the posts I've read that are spot on, just exactly why is this dentist sharing a patients trials and tribulations at a place like the DUmp?
If I ever found out one of my docs was sharing any of my info with anyone, I'd own his frikkin' house! It's gotta be BS, cause no dentist or doctor I know would take such a chance!
Don't they have ethics committees just like the docs do? Me thinks this needs to be forwarded! I can understand sharing this kind of stuff with a colleague, but with the DUmp?
I dunno, maybe he had bobo's permission.
PCIntern
After all, there is no Earthly reason why my patient isn't in excruciating agony as I write this post.
PCIntern (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-03-10 03:41 PM
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20. Oh yes...
I could go on and on about pain and people...pretty fascinating...endless stories...some of which will be in my book, whose publication date is...is...'hazy' right now...but not all that far away...
Besides all the posts I've read that are spot on, just exactly why is this dentist sharing a patients trials and tribulations at a place like the DUmp?
If I ever found out one of my docs was sharing any of my info with anyone, I'd own his frikkin' house! It's gotta be BS, cause no dentist or doctor I know would take such a chance!
Don't they have ethics committees just like the docs do? Me thinks this needs to be forwarded! I can understand sharing this kind of stuff with a colleague, but with the DUmp?
I dunno, maybe he had bobo's permission.
So yes, Doctors do discuss us and there's no reason we should believe otherwise.
PCIntern (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-03-10 03:41 PM
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20. Oh yes...
I could go on and on about pain and people...pretty fascinating...endless stories...some of which will be in my book, whose publication date is...is...'hazy' right now...but not all that far away...
What kind of nut would do a dental precedure believing that the patient would end up in major pain? This idiot is admitting that by all rights this woman should be "in excruciating agony," and he would have done it to her.
Another reason for me to not believe this dolt is a dentist.
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Doctors always did but with these privacy laws now it's very different than what it was back then.
PCIntern (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-03-10 03:41 PM
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20. Oh yes...
I could go on and on about pain and people...pretty fascinating...endless stories...some of which will be in my book, whose publication date is...is...'hazy' right now...but not all that far away...
My oldest son had a tooth removed and the next day the Dentist went on vacation.
He developed a Dry Socket. He described the pain as unlike anything he had ever felt before. His wife dragged him, the stubborn man into the ER for antibiotics and pain medication.
Husband had a crown placed on a chipped tooth, cost him $1200 bucks.
8 months later it fell off, when he called the dentist he was told the dentist was not seeing new patients.
He was told that as he had not been in for 6 months, he was now considered a new patient.
He went to one of those group dentists and was told the past dentist had filed his tooth down to the point that a crown would never last long. Cost to pull and implant new tooth $2800.
Now under most medical insurance policy's chiropractic and even acupuncture is covered with copay.
The teeth and mouth are areas that can spread poison through out the body, why does the insurance company's consider the Dental care as less important as placing needles in ones arm or leg to releave pain or stress.?
0BAMACARE!!! 0BAMACARE!!! 0BAMACARE!!! 0BAMACARE!!! 0BAMACARE!!! 0BAMACARE!!! 0BAMACARE!!!
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OH YES EVEN BETTER, NURSES AND OFFICE STAFF ARE UNDER NO PRIVACY LAWS.Blah...Blah...Blah...Blah...
As we adults must know that the drugs we are described are to cover more then one condition. We had a Plant Nurse that had a BIG mouth.
We had a company rule that any medication we were on had to be reported to the plant nurse. This was for our own benefit in case of accident we were told. Those of us that had half a brain in our head refused to do so.
Hubby thought I was paranoid until a male friend of his was prescribed a drug for head aches that was used for Alcoholism and athletes feet.
One day he was knocked into by a coworker in a hurry and fell backwards hitting his head on concrete. The dude that had bumped into him had no idea what he had done. Hubby's friend was not found for a couple of hours and taken to the hospital unconscious. After $20,000.00 in medical bills he filed for workmans compensation. The company fought the claim by insinuating he had been drunk as he was taking the drug used to help with withdrawal symptoms, headaches and athletes feet.
Even large hospitals have a problem with big mouths, I was waiting on an ex ray when two ex ray techs were talking about a Mr. Smith--not real name-- could loose his arm and was refusing to have it Amputated. Just so happend I knew this man.
Biggest problem for those in a nursing home may well be the 11/7 shift. We who care for the patients begin to feel like they are family, some times curiosity overwhelms us when we feel affection for a patient who never has any visitors. Then there is curiosity about why the patient is doped up so much by the other shifts.
Sooner or later the charge nurse nurse will pull the family history and some of the stuff we read is unbelievable.
No we had no right to read the files, but we were not breaking any confidentially rules or laws. Why was this such a big problem for the patient.?
We began to look at the patients different, those who we gave care to but did not bond with, we found reading the woman, say ,had lost 7 children and had contacted Syphilis from her husband when he came home from WW1. This disease ate away at her for 60 years. We became more protective of her and loving.
For the one man we knew that was a spit fire at 90, he had no visitors but had 5 daughters and dozens of grand and G grand kids. Why had he not had one visitor in 5 years, he could still walk around and joke with us, he was as sharp as a tack.
Family history, he had molested his daughters and a couple. This made a big difference in how we felt about him, this jovial patient was a monster.
What kind of dentist does this moonbat see? I had a root canal about a year ago and they gave me a script for Vicodin. They also said that if it got too bad to call and they'd give me something stronger.
Methinks that DUmmie either looks like a druggie, or sees a really crappy dentist!
Some of us suspect, and are probably correct, that he is a night janitor in a dental office.
Blah...Blah...Blah...Blah...
Wanna bet?
If *I* catch you or any healthcare office person OPENLY discussing *MY* healthcare issues WITHOUT my approval, not only will your employer be sued into bankruptcy, and YOU will be sued into bankruptcy, your career will be disintegrated, your pathetic ability to make a living above that of an AP-PM soda jerk destroyed.
Allos, I hate to rain on your parade but doctors and lawyers discuss their cases with colleges and office staff and seem to forget that others can hear them.