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Title: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on September 01, 2010, 11:21:09 AM
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AlinPA  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-01-10 03:01 PM
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We have a lot of work to do before November. Adding Angle, Paul, Miller and O'Donnell
 to the already crazed right wing republicans in the Senate would be frightening. 

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Arctic Dave  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-01-10 03:15 PM
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2. The bell has rung, time to come out swinging on these rat bastards.
 And don't stop until they hit the canvass.


(http://blogs.suburbanchicagonews.com/sportsbeacon/Scrappy%20Doo.jpg)

"Hmphf! Hmphf! Lemme at 'em! Lemme at 'em!"

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enough  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-01-10 03:32 PM
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3. And Toomey, who seems to be far ahead of Sestak in the polls right now. (NT)

 
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AlinPA  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-01-10 03:51 PM
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4. I forgot him, he is far, far right wing and has teabagger support. 

 
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts)     Wed Sep-01-10 03:54 PM
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5. You forgot Rubio. 

 
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AlinPA  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-01-10 04:10 PM
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7. Yes. They are everywhere now.

 
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butterfly77  (1000+ posts)     Wed Sep-01-10 04:02 PM
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6. We need to..
 hit them hard and hit them often. We also need to be digging up info on some of the older ones who think their seats are safe. They are coming after the Dems and they aren't done yet.

Oppo-research?!?!?

Why, that's NEVER been tried before!

Brilliant!!!

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They are targeting the CBC and they are doing stuff right now that Dems aren't paying attention to. We have all of the weak back down Dems showing up on tv when we need some hard hitters. I have been emailing Kaine for months now telling them to get off of their asses.


And I'm sure Kaine takes each of your emails under the deepest of consideration.

:jerkit:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9056185
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: jukin on September 01, 2010, 11:25:46 AM
After we take back BOTH houses and things have turned around economically in 2012 the DUmbasses will be circle jerking how it was all the donks doing.
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: AllosaursRus on September 01, 2010, 11:26:25 AM
Yep, you primitive pussies are really goin' to cause a tidal wave of support for the party that votes against the people!

More likely, it won't even be a ripple!

(http://a.imageshack.us/img823/3721/adu8.gif)
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: debk on September 01, 2010, 11:47:38 AM
 All alone....in that sea of hope and change.....


(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=204519321315&id=331649d2a837e91a1162b0bb936b8b48&url=http%3a%2f%2fi213.photobucket.com%2falbums%2fcc77%2fgummbypal%2ffunny-donkey-in-boat.jpg)



:evillaugh:
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on September 01, 2010, 11:49:15 AM
All alone....in that sea of hope and change.....


(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=204519321315&id=331649d2a837e91a1162b0bb936b8b48&url=http%3a%2f%2fi213.photobucket.com%2falbums%2fcc77%2fgummbypal%2ffunny-donkey-in-boat.jpg)



:evillaugh:

Isn't that the lake where Micheal had Fredo capped?
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: Chris_ on September 01, 2010, 12:04:15 PM
I haven't heard of Christine O'Donnell, so I put her name in Google.  She ran against Biden in 2008 before The Big Zero gave him the VP gig.
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This is the former campaign website for Christine O'Donnell's 2008 run for US Senate in Delaware. The web address was acquired by a personal injury lawyer  in an attempt to preserve the historic record of Ms. O'Donnell's campaign. However, Ms. O'Donnell didn't like that, so now we're just going to make fun of her.

...followed by some goofy-looking pictures and grade-school insults.

The Other 'Christine O'Donnell for U.S. Senate' Website (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/09/the-other-christine-odonnell-for-us-senate-website/62359/)
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: Chris_ on September 01, 2010, 12:09:08 PM
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AlinPA  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-01-10 03:01 PM
Original message
We have a lot of work to do before November. Adding Angle, Paul, Miller and O'Donnell
 to the already crazed right wing republicans in the Senate would be frightening. 

Six incumbents out on their ass is a good start.  Suck it, DUmmies.
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: delilahmused on September 01, 2010, 12:17:31 PM
November will be sweet! Idiots crying and jumping off the Internets in an attempt to commit suicide.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2kxlZDOHeQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: true_blood on September 01, 2010, 12:36:40 PM
From above;
Arctic Dave  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-01-10 03:15 PM
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2. The bell has rung, time to come out swinging on these rat bastards.
 And don't stop until they hit the canvass.


Hey Artic?!!? Maybe your head is a little frozen or maybe it's the "head meds" or the "medical" marijuana, but learn how to spell canvas if you are going to come out swinging big guy!! :loser: :loser: :bird:
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: Godot showed up on September 01, 2010, 03:29:15 PM
Funny, the real truth is is that the best we can hope to do is stem the tide of Obama-Dem destruction, and for the House (assuming we at least take the House) to appropriate, oh, maybe $1 for any bureaucracy created by Obamacare. Anything constructive  (ie, everything Dems hate) as opposed to simply oppositional will have to wait until we have an American President again, and that veto pen is in the right hands. Aren't they aware of that? Or shouldn't I offer them that solace? Or are they just incapable of understanding this?
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: miskie on September 01, 2010, 03:47:07 PM
Indeed - losing the house is a bad thing for the Dems. If there are programs that the new house doesn't like, they can rewrite them (Healthcare) and if Obama threatens to veto any changes, the house can simply defund the offending programs completely outside of Obama's veto reach.

No money, no program.

If the Dems lose the Senate as well, then new legislation can be written. But just taking the house will stop Team Obama....Assuming the new house has the balls to do it, that is....

Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 01, 2010, 03:50:39 PM
Funny, the real truth is is that the best we can hope to do is stem the tide of Obama-Dem destruction, and for the House (assuming we at least take the House) to appropriate, oh, maybe $1 for any bureaucracy created by Obamacare. Anything constructive  (ie, everything Dems hate) as opposed to simply oppositional will have to wait until we have an American President again, and that veto pen is in the right hands. Aren't they aware of that? Or shouldn't I offer them that solace? Or are they just incapable of understanding this?

I would like to add:

60+ Republican Senators in the Senate.  The Dems who remain will not allow Obamacare to be repealed without a fight.  'Course, that won't happen until 2013.
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: thundley4 on September 01, 2010, 03:50:53 PM
Indeed - losing the house is a bad thing for the Dems. If there are programs that the new house doesn't like, they can rewrite them (Healthcare) and if Obama threatens to veto any changes, the house can simply defund the offending programs completely outside of Obama's veto reach.

No money, no program.

If the Dems lose the Senate as well, then new legislation can be written. But just taking the house will stop Team Obama....Assuming the new house has the balls to do it, that is....



The House does control the nations purse strings. They could refuse funding for much of ObamaCare.
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on September 01, 2010, 04:13:15 PM
I would like to add:

60+ Republican Senators in the Senate.  The Dems who remain will not allow Obamacare to be repealed without a fight.  'Course, that won't happen until 2013.
If we had 60 solid GOPers why fret a veto?

Although in reality we just need a majority in the HoR to cash-starve the beast. Nothing gets funded unless it gets actively added into the budget.
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: Godot showed up on September 01, 2010, 04:46:57 PM
If we had 60 solid GOPers why fret a veto?

Although in reality we just need a majority in the HoR to cash-starve the beast. Nothing gets funded unless it gets actively added into the budget.

Right you are SB! That's one fight I'd like to see re-occur a few times--House Republicans repeatedly refusing to put a nickel into Obamacare, possibly Senate Dems filibustering it (if they end up in the minority), Obama vetoing the budget because of this if it does finally get out that way, and again, and again...the libmedia and Team Obama will say Republicans are "shutting down the government," but as the country mostly hates Obamacare, and in any case it's easy enough to say "hey, if you want a budget, stop with the vetoes," this really is a losing battle for them. And it would keep Obamacare front-and-center for 2012.

I can tell you this. Wall Street will love this kind of gridlock.
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on September 01, 2010, 04:55:22 PM
Right you are SB! That's one fight I'd like to see re-occur a few times--House Republicans repeatedly refusing to put a nickel into Obamacare, possibly Senate Dems filibustering it (if they end up in the minority), Obama vetoing the budget because of this if it does finally get out that way, and again, and again...the libmedia and Team Obama will say Republicans are "shutting down the government," but as the country mostly hates Obamacare, and in any case it's easy enough to say "hey, if you want a budget, stop with the vetoes," this really is a losing battle for them. And it would keep Obamacare front-and-center for 2012.

I can tell you this. Wall Street will love this kind of gridlock.
Gingrich tried that a couple of times but he folded.

Hopefully with Tea party pressure and 60% in favor of repeal around their necks the GOP can hold the line this time.
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: Airwolf on September 01, 2010, 05:05:46 PM
November will be sweet! Idiots crying and jumping off the Internets in an attempt to commit suicide.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2kxlZDOHeQ[/youtube]

Shouldn't that say "Idiots crying and Jumping off the Interstate in an attempt to commit suicide"?

Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 02, 2010, 05:22:07 AM
Right you are SB! That's one fight I'd like to see re-occur a few times--House Republicans repeatedly refusing to put a nickel into Obamacare, possibly Senate Dems filibustering it (if they end up in the minority), Obama vetoing the budget because of this if it does finally get out that way, and again, and again...the libmedia and Team Obama will say Republicans are "shutting down the government," but as the country mostly hates Obamacare, and in any case it's easy enough to say "hey, if you want a budget, stop with the vetoes," this really is a losing battle for them. And it would keep Obamacare front-and-center for 2012.

I can tell you this. Wall Street will love this kind of gridlock.

Never thought of that.
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: Godot showed up on September 02, 2010, 08:27:32 AM
Gingrich tried that a couple of times but he folded.

Hopefully with Tea party pressure and 60% in favor of repeal around their necks the GOP can hold the line this time.

...and we should hope that John Boehner's got the right stuff.

But truly, if this huge shift in the electorate isn't enough to stiffen Republican spines in the House to do as we've discussed, then nothing will. That is what it comes down to. You've stated the crux of the matter admirably simply.

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Addendum: And even if we don't take the Senate, Republicans will have the filibuster back.
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 02, 2010, 10:18:21 AM
The government shutdown (1995?) was actually where Gingrich completely overplayed his hand.  He failed to realize a President always has a lot more ability to put his own message out in the press than any Speaker ever will, especially when the President is a Lib and has the wind at his back dealing with them in the first place.  Accordingly, the whole thing came off as Clinton making a stand on principal (Laughable when you think about him and that word in the same sentence with no negative modifier, really) versus Gingrich just being dog in the manger. 
He badly misjudged dissatisfaction with Clinton as equalling support for him and the Contract, and really has never figured out what a mistaken and arrogant dope he was on that.  He has been consistently wrong in backing RINOs over Conservatives since Obama was elected, and I sure as Hell hope he does not end up being our candidate in 2012.  He is very intelligent, but he also has a terminal case of totally F'd-up judgment. 
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: Ballygrl on September 02, 2010, 12:37:03 PM
I would like to add:

60+ Republican Senators in the Senate.  The Dems who remain will not allow Obamacare to be repealed without a fight.  'Course, that won't happen until 2013.

Nice scenario, except for 4 things, and their names are Snowe, Collins, McCain and Graham.
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 02, 2010, 03:21:21 PM
Nice scenario, except for 4 things, and their names are Snowe, Collins, McCain and Graham.

If the Obamessiah continues to **** things up after the Republicans take the House and Senate back, the Dems still have to defend about 23 of the 33 Senate seats up in 2012.  I'd say that maybe eight to ten of those 23 would flip.  That could very well give Republicans the supermajority.
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: AllosaursRus on September 02, 2010, 03:40:19 PM
If the Obamessiah continues to **** things up after the Republicans take the House and Senate back, the Dems still have to defend about 23 of the 33 Senate seats up in 2012.  I'd say that maybe eight to ten of those 23 would flip.  That could very well give Republicans the supermajority.

Easy now, you'll make me "cream my jeans"!

That would be excellent as long as they act like conservatives and not like the last time, with a bunch of gubmint spendin' pricks! You have to admit, they went hog wild with our money, just like the current traitors in charge!!!! Maybe not to the extent that the DemoncRats did, but still they sure as hell didn't have the country's best interest at heart.
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 02, 2010, 04:00:01 PM
Easy now, you'll make me "cream my jeans"!

That would be excellent as long as they act like conservatives and not like the last time, with a bunch of gubmint spendin' pricks! You have to admit, they went hog wild with our money, just like the current traitors in charge!!!! Maybe not to the extent that the DemoncRats did, but still they sure as hell didn't have the country's best interest at heart.

You better put a wrapper on that rocket!  Or, call Toots to take care of things . . .

Anyway, I think that we're seeing a shift in the NRSC, one that the PTB of the NRSC aren't quite in line with yet.  They're going away from the "McCain-McConnell" wing and drifting more to the "DeMint" wing.  As the latter grows, people like Jeff Sessions will sign on.  The momentum will start to build.  When John Cornyn faces a rival in the primary, maybe even gets primaried, he'll come around.  And so it will go.
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 02, 2010, 04:12:28 PM
You better put a wrapper on that rocket!  Or, call Toots to take care of things . . .

Anyway, I think that we're seeing a shift in the NRSC, one that the PTB of the NRSC aren't quite in line with yet.  They're going away from the "McCain-McConnell" wing and drifting more to the "DeMint" wing.  As the latter grows, people like Jeff Sessions will sign on.  The momentum will start to build.  When John Cornyn faces a rival in the primary, maybe even gets primaried, he'll come around.  And so it will go.

Every time I hear or see his name I want to jump up and shout, "That's my senetor!"

Then I remember that other bastard and slink way down in my seat.
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: Ballygrl on September 02, 2010, 06:04:06 PM
If the Obamessiah continues to **** things up after the Republicans take the House and Senate back, the Dems still have to defend about 23 of the 33 Senate seats up in 2012.  I'd say that maybe eight to ten of those 23 would flip.  That could very well give Republicans the supermajority.

Oh WOW! I didn't realize Democrats were defending so many seats in 2012.
Title: Re: Scared. So very, very scared.
Post by: AllosaursRus on September 02, 2010, 06:28:27 PM
You better put a wrapper on that rocket!  Or, call Toots to take care of things . . .

Anyway, I think that we're seeing a shift in the NRSC, one that the PTB of the NRSC aren't quite in line with yet.  They're going away from the "McCain-McConnell" wing and drifting more to the "DeMint" wing.  As the latter grows, people like Jeff Sessions will sign on.  The momentum will start to build.  When John Cornyn faces a rival in the primary, maybe even gets primaried, he'll come around.  And so it will go.

Well, if we don't start to get a handle on this, I fear for the country! There's no way in hell we can keep this up and expect to survive. O'Bummer is printin' money faster than the presses can keep up! I don't think flooding the market with paper is quite the answer we're lookin' for.

If the Pubbies can't figure that out and quick, I see anarchy in our future. Black Markets will spring up like the days of prohibition! They already have in States where cigs cost $14 a frikkin' pack! At least this time around we have the internet, so bartering will be a heckuva lot easier.

We need to go thru the budget and start axin' stuff like the study to see how much cocaine a monkey can snort before he starts behavin' like a DUmpster DIver!

They really are spending money on a study like that!

obama-stimulus-money-to-study-monkey-cocaine-use (http://www.redstate.com/brian_d/2010/08/03/obama-stimulus-money-to-study-monkey-cocaine-use/)

Or, how about Bummer's admin spendin' 100 million on a mosque in Africa?

What else is the State Department larding out, at hard-pressed taxpayers’ expense, to facilitate “understanding” with the Muslim world?

u-s-state-department-is-building-mosques (http://bigpeace.com/cderussy/2010/08/12/u-s-state-department-is-building-mosques/)

Anyone want to tell me, if we're supposed to have a separation of church and state, this BS can happen? Wonder how'd they feel about buildin' a Christian Church overseas?

Damn, they just need someone with a little fiscal responsibility to go thru the "non-existent" budget and ax this crap! Wonder why the REpubs aren't makin' a big deal out of this congress not passin' a budget so far this year? Or why isn't this waste of spending on every Repubs lips?

Makes me nervous!