The Conservative Cave
Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on August 31, 2010, 06:22:39 PM
-
breadandwine (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-31-10 05:56 PM
Original message
••• Can we survive 2 years of the GOP till 2012? If so, how? •••
President Obama is about to lose effective and possibly actual control of Capitol Hill. The economy has again stalled. The public is deranged and not listening to reason, which will make it very hard for them to vote Democratic. We are dealing with masses of Joe Six Pack who are ready to haul off and BELT someone for their frustrations and figure out if they acted wisely only thereafter. Gallup says the generic vote is now 10% more for the GOP than the Democrats. The combination of disappointment within our base and astroturfed rage by the right is an almost perfect storm for the GOP. $400 million in corporate cash are flooding into the election for the GOP thanks to the coup plotters on the Supreme Court.
Don't tell me I'm giving up. Far from it. I've been in Democratic politics all my life and I'm not a quitter.
But we are about to be hit by the biggest political Mac truck since Hitler took over in Germany. Beck calls everyone a Nazi --EXCEPT HIMSELF -- and the Tea Party is financed by the Koch brothers whose father founded the John Birch Society. With astroturfed town hall meetings that beat up our side, we are shell shocked and punchy and not ready for a fight and as usual our side doesn't even know what negative campaigning really is. There is no fire in the belly by the politicians on our side, no inspiring podium pounding.
We are going to suffer huge losses this Fall. We can debate exactly how bad it will be but that's not the point. There are going to be hearings. There is going to be another impeachment. There is going to be another shutdown of the government. It will not be enough for Obama to just veto the GOP Congress's avalanche of right wing legislation. They are not just going to propose, they are going to combine it all with a near assault on Democrats. They are going to beat Obama up so bad that he will be politically punchy from it all and reeling and not able to resist well. They will find all sorts of dirt in his closet, real or imagined. If you think YOU have found cases where Obama caved to corporations in a corrupt way, wait till the REPUBLICANS with their hearing process get hold of him. It will be shock, shock, shock, wall to wall, 24/7/365 how "bad" Obama is, how did we ever elect him, what were we thinking, we had no idea, etc. etc. etc. blah blah blah.
It's easy to say there will be silver linings in all this, the GOP will make fools of themselves etc. Wasn't that supposed to have happened ALREADY these past 2 years? They ran over us like road kill and never looked back in the rear view mirror and are continuing to floor the gas peddle for more destruction.
First, let's honestly try to imagine what a Republican Congress in the Fall is really going to look like.
Offer your predictions. Here are a couple of mine:
The GOP Congress will embark on a witch hunt against believers in global warming. They will investigate them. They will haul scientists before hearings and grill them like Joe McCarthy. "We have an email in which you told a colleague that carbon dioxide is a natural gas! Do you DENY it????!!!"
There will be demands that science renounce one thing after another that it knows to be true and this will be forced on universities, institutions receiving government aid and so on. It will be like Galileo at his sentencing being ordered to declare that the planets go around the earth.
I don't know who is going to get burned at the stake but many in this country will be, politically. If you think there is a witch hunt going on surrounding Ground Zero, wait until after the election. With subpoena power they will manage to declare that the Moon is made out of Worcestershire sauce. Nuts with guns will go out and shoot anybody who dares say otherwise.
I am not convinced that all this will somehow "boomerang" in our favor by 2012. Net freedom will be destroyed and the media will be even more corporate. MSNBC will be forced into bankruptcy and sold to right wingers or Saudi Arabia. Say goodbye to Keith Olbermann and everyone else. They will be economically and politically lynched. The new Congress will GO AFTER ITS ENEMIES and rest assured there will be an enemies list.
Secondly, aside from suggesting the full scope of the problem we face, and I ask you to conceive below just how bad a GOP Congress will be this time, making Newt Gingrich look like Tinkerbell, but also, if you can offer solutions below for how we respond, how we make it through the next 2 years till 2012. Don't give us the usual, well, it will boomerang, mantra. The control they get on Capitol Hill will be USED to cement their power including media power. Many of the scandals that would result from GOP takeover will be barely reported because the GOP will use its new power on Capitol Hill for cover up and to shut up critics and anyone who reports the truth. We are headed towards a fascist hegemony on Capitol Hill compared to which the French Revolution will be only an innocent child. Certainly that sounds like an exaggeration but factor in the fact that what the GOP does in the next 2 years to a world already reeling from global warming will have vast WORLDWIDE repercussions that will KILL millions of animals, plants and even people. Imagine another oil leak in the sea killing the plant life that supplies most of the oxygen we breathe. There is really no fixed limit to the destruction we face because the EARTH IS ALREADY IN THE BALANCE.
There will be massive famine around the world from global warming-caused crop failures and there will be food riots. You can be sure the GOP powers that be will insure that everyone thinks the rioters are to blame for not growing more food.
It will be things like that.
We are witnessing a period where right wing and corporate forces will collude to engulf the country in insanity far worse than what we are seeing now. Naomi Wolf's predictions of fascism in the US, in part through a combination of corporate and other forces, will be much closer to reality and people will be afraid to speak out.
You can't solve a problem if you bury your head in the sand and pretend "We're fine!" We're not.
What do we do in the next two years?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9050484
I like the term "pudding" from another thread, hence the sub-title of this thread but I like pudding as a desert.
How about we call them "DUmplings": Tasteless, doughy balls of mush that just sit there soaking up your food and making you lose your appetite.
-
DUmmies need some directions.
China is that < way.
Russia is that > way.
North Korea is that ^ way.
and Cuba is that V way.
And DUmmie heads are exploding. I can see the pink mushroom clouds from my house.
-
Oh good Lord,what a drama queen. ::)
-
The public is deranged and not listening to reason, which will make it very hard for them to vote Democratic.
When has a Democrat, or any sort of DUmmie/socialist hybrid, ever deigned to use reason?
-
Uber liberal tears taste the best because they are the most bitter.
-
DUmmies need some directions.
China is that < way.
Russia is that > way.
North Korea is that ^ way.
and Cuba is that V way.
And DUmmie heads are exploding. I can see the pink mushroom clouds from my house.
HA HA!!! That was killer Johnny!! :hi5: :cheersmate: :cheersmate:
-
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9050484
I like the term "pudding" from another thread, hence the sub-title of this thread but I like pudding as a desert.
How about we call them "DUmplings": Tasteless, doughy balls of mush that just sit there soaking up your food and making you lose your appetite.
My MIL would kick your ass if you told her her dumplings were tasteless!
She's from "West By God Virginny", and is as stout at 83 as any stubborn mule in my pasture!
-
breadandwine
Can we survive 2 years of the GOP till 2012?
The question isn't can you survive, it's does any reasonable person care if you do or not? I, for one, don't care if you do or not. Good and decent people are tired of the stupidity spewed by you and your ilk, so whether you make it or not is irrelevant.
And this ...
The public is deranged and not listening to reason, which will make it very hard for them to vote Democratic.
... is one of those "Why can I be there to :rotf: in your face" moments.
.
-
My MIL would kick your ass if you told her her dumplings were tasteless!
She's from "West By God Virginny", and is as stout at 83 as any stubborn mule in my pasture!
Dumplings suck.
Without exception.
Universally.
Always.
-
I remember listening to Rush right after the election in 2008.
He said that the pendulum will swing back just as fast as it swung to the left. Then we will use the power of the government that they created ON them, and see how THEY like it!
Suck it, DUmmies. :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird:
-
Offer your predictions. Here are a couple of mine:
The GOP Congress will embark on a witch hunt against believers in global warming. They will investigate them. They will haul scientists before hearings and grill them like Joe McCarthy. "We have an email in which you told a colleague that carbon dioxide is a natural gas! Do you DENY it????!!!"
There will be demands that science renounce one thing after another that it knows to be true and this will be forced on universities, institutions receiving government aid and so on. It will be like Galileo at his sentencing being ordered to declare that the planets go around the earth.
I don't know who is going to get burned at the stake but many in this country will be, politically. If you think there is a witch hunt going on surrounding Ground Zero, wait until after the election. With subpoena power they will manage to declare that the Moon is made out of Worcestershire sauce. Nuts with guns will go out and shoot anybody who dares say otherwise.
You left out The Camps! Don't forget about The Camps!
:ohnoes:
lol
-
Nuts with guns will go out and shoot anybody who dares say otherwise.
Silly DUmmie, only conservatives own guns. :-) :fuelfire:
-
Nuts with guns will go out and shoot anybody who dares say otherwise.
Psst, Dummie: I have it on good authority that this specter of schadenfreude will actually begin to fall on November 1st. What, with Mars is aligning with Uranus, Pluto in retrograde orbit, and it being the year of the masturbatory rooster, I can't be wrong.
Since I have concern for your bodily welfare, I would recommend a course of staying home, and never leaving the house, ever again, to begin on November 1st. No later. :-)
-
I have cramps and don't want to read that whine in its entirety. Does anyone have cliff notes?
-
I have cramps and don't want to read that whine in its entirety. Does anyone have cliff notes?
The public is angry and stupid and they wont re-elect democrats. Can we hold out until 2012?
-
I have cramps and don't want to read that whine in its entirety. Does anyone have cliff notes?
For the reading impaired:
:siren: :panic::panic::ohnoes::ohnoes::siren: :panic:::siren::panic::siren: :siren::ohnoes::siren: :panic::siren: :panic: :siren::siren:
-
I figure in a few weeks ban the GOP will be back to wanting to cancel the elections. Only this time he will have followers.
-
I figure in a few weeks ban the GOP will be back to wanting to cancel the elections. Only this time he will have followers.
That's worth bookmarking.
-
From the thread:
JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-31-10 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. Obama is human and has made mistakes.
He should simply fire Rahm Emmanuel, Geithner, Summers, Bernanke, Salazar, Holder, the whole lot and start over. Unfortunately, he has waited too long. He will probably have a Republican dominated Senate in the Fall. I have been screaming here on DU and writing e-mails to the president asking him to make these decisions. He procrastinated.
:lmao:
Obama: "Let's see what's in the old mailbag today. Hmmmm something from JDPriestly! Must be important! Naah, I think I'll go play golf instead. Maybe I'll look at this tomorrow."
bowens43 (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-31-10 02:09 PM
Response to Original message
7. Your assumption of big Democratic losses in 2010
Edited on Tue Aug-31-10 02:09 PM by bowens43
has no basis in reality. It's just FOX news rhetoric......
You're absolutely right! But be sure to come out on November 3 and cast your vote!
Here's a Noob:
SomeGuynTexas (14 posts) Tue Aug-31-10 02:41 PM
Response to Original message
27. EPIC bumper sticker: "The public is deranged and not listening to reason"
LOL.
Yeah. That's the way to get my vote.
"Hey You! Deranged person! Yeah you! Stop ignoring reason and vote democratic already!"
eh....what?
Epic.
-
For the reading impaired:
:siren: :panic::panic::ohnoes::ohnoes::siren: :panic:::siren::panic::siren: :siren::ohnoes::siren: :panic::siren: :panic: :siren::siren:
great summation for Cliff Notes! :cheersmate:
-
For the reading impaired:
:siren: :panic::panic::ohnoes::ohnoes::siren: :panic:::siren::panic::siren: :siren::ohnoes::siren: :panic::siren: :panic: :siren::siren:
HA HA!!! Get it yet DUmmies?!?!? :cheersmate:
-
Dumplings suck.
Without exception.
Universally.
Always.
You haven't had MY dumplings...big boy.....
-
You haven't had MY dumplings...big boy.....
Um, that sounded just a little bit :gay: .
-
Dumplings suck.
Without exception.
Universally.
Always.
You've clearly never had my Grandma's chicken and DUmplings. You would never utter such blasphemy. I sure am going to miss her.
-
For the reading impaired:
:siren: :panic::panic::ohnoes::ohnoes::siren: :panic:::siren::panic::siren: :siren::ohnoes::siren: :panic::siren: :panic: :siren::siren:
I figured just as much. lol
-
Um, that sounded just a little bit :gay: .
Bunny Bait
:tongue:
-
You've clearly never had my Grandma's chicken and DUmplings. You would never utter such blasphemy. I sure am going to miss her.
I'd never ate chicken and dumplins until I married "Toots". Still don't eat 'em very often cause chicken is for vegans as far as I'm concerned. There's a reason I raise beef!
Anyway, Ma's dumplins were the one good thing about havin' to eat chicken. Her's were great! Oh. and if ya complained, she'd stick a fork in ya!
-
I'd never ate chicken and dumplins until I married "Toots". Still don't eat 'em very often cause chicken is for vegans as far as I'm concerned. There's a reason I raise beef!
Anyway, Ma's dumplins were the one good thing about havin' to eat chicken. Her's were great! Oh. and if ya complained, she'd stick a fork in ya!
Karin may vouch for this--boneless chicken breasts, smothered in Russian dressing, sauerkraut, and Swiss cheese, are great.
Though, a good sirloin, medium rare, is one of life's finer pleasures. :hi5:
-
Karin may vouch for this--boneless chicken breasts, smothered in Russian dressing, sauerkraut, and Swiss cheese, are great.
Though, a good sirloin, medium rare, is one of life's finer pleasures. :hi5:
You need to eat one of my fillet Mignon or a prime rib! You would forever be a slave to the taste of grain fed beef! Damn! Now I'm gonna have to see if I have any left! It's usually the first to go as I eat the fillets for breakfast with hashbrowns and eggs and have two that aren't quite ready to meet the butcher!