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Title: Some evangelicals on defensive over partnering with Glenn Beck, a Mormon
Post by: cavegal on August 29, 2010, 01:51:37 PM
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/27/some-evangelicals-on-defensive-over-partnering-with-glenn-beck-a-mormon/?hpt=C2

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A handful of prominent evangelical activists are defending their decision to attend television host Glenn Beck's conservative rally in Washington this weekend after some Christians complained that evangelicals shouldn't be partnering with Beck because of his Mormo
First of all I am SHOCKED that CNN has a religion blog,  second  read the comments....

here is one ...

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DC Buckeye

ChrisM, congratulations! As with most atheists, you've countered hate with hate. If you or the other atheists ever bothered to try and open your minds and do some simple, grade school-level investigating, you'd see that there are plenty of Christian denominations that are countering the hate of evangelicals by putting the real message of Christ into action. I'll stop here, because I suspect my words are falling on deaf and intolerant ears, except for one last point . . . Yes, we've had the Inquisition, etc. But, we've still given more food, shelter, education, hope to the hopeless, and compassion to people around the world than you and your "thinking" atheists (like Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Castro, to name just a few) have done, or ever will do. I pray one day, you and the other virulently bitter atheists will open those minds you seem to boast so much about.
 

one more..

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ron

CNN, instead of focusing on the positive message in Beck's upcoming rally outside the Lincoln Memorial, has chosen instead to pick a "divide and conquer" strategy – anyone else here see that? Oh yes, it's a legitimate question of course, but the timing of this divisive issue is so bare-faced obvious, CNN has it in for Beck, and they want to bring him down, having been pretty well miffed at him since he left Headline News.
Title: Re: Some evangelicals on defensive over partnering with Glenn Beck, a Mormon
Post by: Zeus on August 29, 2010, 03:00:41 PM
DICTIONARY

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evangelical
Definition
e·van·gel·i·cal[  van jéllik'l ]ADJECTIVE

1. of Protestant churches emphasizing personal salvation: relating or belonging to any Protestant Christian church that emphasizes the authority of the Bible and salvation through the personal acceptance of Jesus Christ

2. relating to Christian Gospels: relating to or based on the Gospels of the Christian Bible

3. with strong beliefs: enthusiastic or zealous in support of a particular cause and very eager to make other people share its beliefs or ideals

That's some hateful stuff then evangelicals   ::)
Title: Re: Some evangelicals on defensive over partnering with Glenn Beck, a Mormon
Post by: soleil on August 30, 2010, 08:18:10 PM
DICTIONARY

That's some hateful stuff then evangelicals   ::)

I personally don't like the term evangelical, and I don't know why. It puts a bad picture in my head, and it shouldn't. But it does.


Wanted to edit to add that it has NOTHING to do with my time on DU either. I've always felt this way about it.
Title: Re: Some evangelicals on defensive over partnering with Glenn Beck, a Mormon
Post by: Zeus on August 30, 2010, 08:58:56 PM
I personally don't like the term evangelical, and I don't know why. It puts a bad picture in my head, and it shouldn't. But it does.


Wanted to edit to add that it has NOTHING to do with my time on DU either. I've always felt this way about it.

Don't let those who have bastardized the term Evangelical distract you from the message of God's love and a shot at redemption. Same thing as distraction of the message because of the messenger.

roman 3:18 , Roman 1:32 , Roman 2:5


The early church had a correct godly fear of God, and this is the reason they went out and turned the world ‘right-side-up.’ Acts 2:42-43
Title: Re: Some evangelicals on defensive over partnering with Glenn Beck, a Mormon
Post by: IassaFTots on August 30, 2010, 09:02:07 PM
Color me caught off guard.  I didn't even know Mr. Beck was Mormon.  Maybe I just don't follow all that much.  But really, who cares?
Title: Re: Some evangelicals on defensive over partnering with Glenn Beck, a Mormon
Post by: Zeus on August 30, 2010, 09:39:59 PM
Color me caught off guard.  I didn't even know Mr. Beck was Mormon.  Maybe I just don't follow all that much.  But really, who cares?

Not an expert on the Mormon religion by any stretch of the imagination.  What I do know about it I don't agree with much. I do respect Mormons because it's been my experience that of all the different religions and it's followers towing the line Mormons do the best job overall of walking the walk & Talking the talk.
Title: Re: Some evangelicals on defensive over partnering with Glenn Beck, a Mormon
Post by: soleil on August 31, 2010, 09:24:45 AM
Don't let those who have bastardized the term Evangelical distract you from the message of God's love and a shot at redemption. Same thing as distraction of the message because of the messenger.

roman 3:18 , Roman 1:32 , Roman 2:5


The early church had a correct godly fear of God, and this is the reason they went out and turned the world ‘right-side-up.’ Acts 2:42-43


I am always willing to listen to the word of God. Always. However, that is how I feel.
Title: Re: Some evangelicals on defensive over partnering with Glenn Beck, a Mormon
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on August 31, 2010, 01:35:59 PM
There is a certain ambiguity for me on this point:

On the one hand, where do people such as myself reside within his vision?

I don't believe Mr. Beck is asking the nation to dress in sack cloth and ashes but his theme was undoubtedly religious in tone and he believes moral failings are part and parcel of our national malaise. Certainly hose 2 phenomenon do play on each other but does that mean someone such as myself has no role to play in righting the course of our nation's political steering?

On the other hand, Mr. Beck is accomodating non-Mormons so why shouldn't non-Mormons tolerate Mr. Beck? Certainly Jews could find a home in this movement though their ultimate spiritual destinies at this point in time appear to be debatable vis-a-vis Christian orthodoxy. Can people of markedly different--even opposing--theological disciplines find unity in a single moral calling?

I believe they can to a degree but once the original crisis ebbs they will fracture upon each and every seam that appears.

Such is the human condition.
Title: Re: Some evangelicals on defensive over partnering with Glenn Beck, a Mormon
Post by: cavegal on August 31, 2010, 01:45:43 PM
Color me caught off guard.  I didn't even know Mr. Beck was Mormon.  Maybe I just don't follow all that much.  But really, who cares?
Harry Reid is also Mormon..
Title: Re: Some evangelicals on defensive over partnering with Glenn Beck, a Mormon
Post by: thundley4 on August 31, 2010, 04:06:32 PM
There is a certain ambiguity for me on this point:

On the one hand, where do people such as myself reside within his vision?

I don't believe Mr. Beck is asking the nation to dress in sack cloth and ashes but his theme was undoubtedly religious in tone and he believes moral failings are part and parcel of our national malaise. Certainly hose 2 phenomenon do play on each other but does that mean someone such as myself has no role to play in righting the course of our nation's political steering?

On the other hand, Mr. Beck is accomodating non-Mormons so why shouldn't non-Mormons tolerate Mr. Beck? Certainly Jews could find a home in this movement though their ultimate spiritual destinies at this point in time appear to be debatable vis-a-vis Christian orthodoxy. Can people of markedly different--even opposing--theological disciplines find unity in a single moral calling?

I believe they can to a degree but once the original crisis ebbs they will fracture upon each and every seam that appears.

Such is the human condition.

The overt religion that Beck is using on his show is kind of off-putting to me, also.
Title: Re: Some evangelicals on defensive over partnering with Glenn Beck, a Mormon
Post by: MrsSmith on August 31, 2010, 05:38:16 PM
There is a certain ambiguity for me on this point:

On the one hand, where do people such as myself reside within his vision?

I don't believe Mr. Beck is asking the nation to dress in sack cloth and ashes but his theme was undoubtedly religious in tone and he believes moral failings are part and parcel of our national malaise. Certainly hose 2 phenomenon do play on each other but does that mean someone such as myself has no role to play in righting the course of our nation's political steering?

On the other hand, Mr. Beck is accomodating non-Mormons so why shouldn't non-Mormons tolerate Mr. Beck? Certainly Jews could find a home in this movement though their ultimate spiritual destinies at this point in time appear to be debatable vis-a-vis Christian orthodoxy. Can people of markedly different--even opposing--theological disciplines find unity in a single moral calling?

I believe they can to a degree but once the original crisis ebbs they will fracture upon each and every seam that appears.

Such is the human condition.
Our country was founded on just such disagreements, hence the much misquoted "separation."  Theological debates do not belong "on the floor of Congress," but only a hypocrite can claim strong beliefs that have no effect on their actions and words.