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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dandi on August 28, 2010, 06:06:09 PM
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bobbolink (1000+ posts)
While you are fighting mad about SS, could you remember the other SS fight--affecting many DUers?
Several times I have mentioned that there seems to be a Social Security disability purge in process. It doesn't garner attention... I guess those of us affected aren't on the radar screen.
I have come across too many disability recipients being cut off to think this is just business as usual... this looks like it mirrors the massive cut offs of Raygun, during which thousands of people killed themselves because they had no other way to survive. Are we going to wait to see if there is a repeat of this massive die-off?
I have heard from other DUers who have received cut off notices. (No, I won't give their names without their permission.... just know there are several.)
I have asked for help with this, as the reason we are being targeted now is that we DON'T HAVE VOICES, and WE DON'T HAVE LARGE SUPPORT! They know they can off us, because we won't be missed. Very few people respond. It just doesn't register.
One person who wanted to help wanted me to turn over my papers, which I won't do. I won't give personal information to someone I haven't even met, nor would I ask anyone else to do so. I said that it would make sense to contact any group working with disabled people, to see if they have some hard information, but that met with silence.
Even without that information, massive protest would serve notice that our demise would be noticed, and not tolerated.
So, I ask again... as you fight the Cat Food elite, could you please remember those of us who are being threatened Right Now?
Could you register anger that we are being put through this?
Could you let it be known that our disappearance won't be accepted as business as usual?
Can we couldn on you for this?
We would appreciate it.
Thank you.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9034376#9034534
They "killed themselves because they had no other way to survive"? Is it just me, or does that sound stupid on a galactic scale?
Anyway, I doubt there's any systematic "purge" going on, just a routine disqualifying of deadbeats.
pinto (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-28-10 03:46 PM
Response to Original message
12. First thing anyone who receives a letter of intent to discontinue benefits ought to do is appeal.
http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10041.html
This puts a temporary hold on any final action, requests a review of the decision process and initiates the first step in an appeal process. Also gives the beneficiary time to elicit other support / resources. It's got to be done within the time frame stated, or the opportunity is lost.
Second thing is to access local advocacy resources. Most non-profits working with the disabled communities have a "benefits counselor" on staff. They ought to know the ropes and the process of maneuvering through the Social Security system.
Third, garner *every piece* of documentation that relates to your disabling condition and supports your claim for ongoing benefits.
Work with any local advocates and submit copies of the documentation to Social Security - they have to consider the written record in any decision.
Hope this helps ~ pinto
You'd think that would be welcome advice, Right?
You'd be wrong.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-28-10 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. I'm sure you know that everyone on disability already knows this.
I'm guessing you also know that this is exactly what all those who were cut during Raygun did.... and they died anyway.
It is waaaay past time to Stop making this an individual problem.
This is a SOCIETAL problem, and it is time for "progressives" to give a bit of energy for those who are ignored the rest of the time.
pinto (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-28-10 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #14
22. Not so sure. I've seen people so frustrated with "the system" that they walk away.
Everyone loses then. Most of all the disabled who need support from the system.
My point here is to encourage folks, at this point in time, to access what's there - on a day to day basis - while encouraging a broader change in policies.
The two goals aren't mutually exclusive, imho. One benefits the other.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-28-10 04:25 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. I am not going to continue to listen to the blaming the victim meme.
This purge requires the action of "progressives".
If you cannot join the fight, and feel you must continue to blame those who are going down, please take it elsewhere.
THERE. ARE. LIVES. AT. STAKE.
Thank you.
ThomasQED (138 posts) Sat Aug-28-10 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #24
39. I feel like I missed something between the two posts immediately above...
how was that "blaming the victim"? I see it more as encouraging the victim. And what people DON'T know - including myself - would fill a few Internets.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-28-10 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #39
41. Taking a societal problem and making it an individual problem is what keeps the whole ugly mess
going.
EVERYONE is appealing like crazy, but we have no power.
Are you going to be willing to fight for us, or are you just going to see it as our problem?
With that, I am done with this whole side show.
Either help us, or go on to something else.
ThomasQED (138 posts) Sat Aug-28-10 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #41
45. EVERYONE isn't doing anything
I'm sure many people do appeal, maybe most. But I know from personal experience that not everyone does. I agree with pinto, the two goals are not mutually exclusive. Of course it's important to focus on the entire problem, but in the meantime there are people who need help NOW.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-28-10 06:09 PM
Response to Reply #45
49. I will ask again.. please take this somewhere else. you are not willing to add to action on this,
and are being disruptive.
There are LIVES riding on this, but that matters not to you.
I asked you to be more sensitive but you refuse, so welcome to my ignore list.
bye... go away, please.
ThomasQED (138 posts) Sat Aug-28-10 06:15 PM
Response to Reply #49
51. Take this somewhere else... ???
I thought a discussion forum was a good place to ask questions and you know, discuss things. You have NO IDEA what matters to me.
superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-28-10 06:36 PM
Response to Reply #39
59. I see you've met bobbolink. n/t
Seriously, I don't see how the DUmmies restrain themselves from just cursing this asshole out. Her obnoxiousness alienates the very people she begs for help from.
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bobbolink (1000+ posts)
While you are fighting mad about SS, could you remember the other SS fight--affecting many DUers?
Several times I have mentioned that there seems to be a Social Security disability purge in process. It doesn't garner attention... I guess those of us affected aren't on the radar screen.
I have come across too many disability recipients being cut off to think this is just business as usual... this looks like it mirrors the massive cut offs of Raygun, during which thousands of people killed themselves because they had no other way to survive. Are we going to wait to see if there is a repeat of this massive die-off?
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I fail to see the problem....
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I fail to see the problem....
Me neither. :mental:
I guess this means that Bobo won't get the much needed upgrades for her cardboard box this winter.
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"Thousands of people killed themselves?" "The massive cut offs of Raygun?" Yeah, whatever lies you want to believe, Bobo.
:mental:
Eventually the primitives need to wise up and just not respond to her nonsense. Several have done that to some degree with UGP. But expecting the primitives to wise up is like leading to hippy to water and trying to make the bathe.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9034376#9034534
Seriously, I don't see how the DUmmies restrain themselves from just cursing this asshole out. Her obnoxiousness alienates the very people she begs for help from.
Isn't that what got wee willie a pizza?
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Isn't that what got wee willie a pizza?
Yeah, I think he threatened to kill her.
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Yeah, I think he threatened to kill her.
Well It's not the worst idea that has been proposed.
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Bobbo the hobbo is really getting under my skin. Why does she talk down to others and act like she's better? Give me a break. I'd love to put that bitch back into her place.
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Bobbo the hobbo is really getting under my skin. Why does she talk down to others and act like she's better? Give me a break. I'd love to put that bitch back into her place.
HA HA!! Love it. :cheersmate:
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I would have sent her ass back to the kitchen, but I remembered she didn't have a house.
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I would have sent her ass back to the kitchen, but I remembered she didn't have a house.
lol
:cheersmate:
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I'm not quite sure what she wants everyone to do.
Cindie
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Bobbo's plight as rendered by CalPiggy:
I fight with
only my iPhone
and car
a purge of
helpless and angry
I scream
I whine
still my unicorn dies
what good is
a
free unicorn
when no one knows
how to do cpr to save it
I am ignored
I could die
on purpose
would
anyone
care
No one gives the right kind of help
how to explain
I cannot show my papers
it's too invasive
I WANT EVERYTHING
BUT
you don't care
bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch
sirens come
they pass me by
again
shit!
Cindie
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So, I ask again... as you fight the Cat Food elite...
Can someone, for the love of all that is Holy, tell me just who the F*CK the "Cat Food elite" are????
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Can someone, for the love of all that is Holy, tell me just who the F*CK the "Cat Food elite" are????
Those who only eat cat food?
I have no idea. That's all I came up with when I read that.
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Can someone, for the love of all that is Holy, tell me just who the F*CK the "Cat Food elite" are????
I haven't a freaking clue. Maybe someone who can afford to have a cat and feed it?
I see you've met BobboLink.
So totally almost worth a sig line. If I was to quote a DUmmie.
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Can someone, for the love of all that is Holy, tell me just who the F*CK the "Cat Food elite" are????
The deficit commission put together by Obummer was dubbed "The Cat Food Commission" by MSNBC's stable of giant-pygmy intellects because they get to decide who gets stuck eating cat food to survive in George Bush's America.
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Bravo Cindie!
:rotf:
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The deficit commission put together by Obummer was dubbed "The Cat Food Commission" by MSNBC's stable of giant-pygmy intellects because they get to decide who gets stuck eating cat food to survive in George Bush's America.
AHEM, I went all damn day Friday without eating anything. Moi cannot live on coffee and wine alone so when I emptied those cans of cat food for my 8 tigers, the cat cuisine smelled DELISH. I could have easily dived into a can of teh Fancy Feast, but alas, the salmon awaited. :-)
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I like you, but that's kinda gross. :p
There are cereal-based dog foods that taste exactly like the fancy $5-a-box stuff breakfast cereal. Don't ask me what brand because I don't remember, and I only tried it once.
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Me neither. :mental:
I guess this means that Bobo won't get the much needed upgrades for her cardboard box this winter.
Dayum, youall are just NOT GETTING BOOBOO'S POINT. She doesn't want a cardboard box, nor her dated rattletrap on wheels, but her own, solely for her own use, 4-bedroom, 2-bath spacious house, all utilities paid, groceries delivered, swimming pool and personal cabana boy. Anything less than this is simply unacceptable.
:hammer:on you for the cardboard box meme. BOOBOO accepts nothing less than the above. :tongue: :rotf:
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I like you, but that's kinda gross. :p
There are cereal-based dog foods that taste exactly like the fancy $5-a-box stuff breakfast cereal. Don't ask me what brand because I don't remember, and I only tried it once.
If this was addressed to little ol' moi, I have oft contemplated heating up several cans of the cat chow for DH. After all, he HAS been known to comment on how the doggies' and kitties' chow smells better than whatever I had planned for dinner.
Such commentary has me sending his azz out the door for a nice greazy Big Mac dinner for me and whatever he wants for himself. :evillaugh:
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:rofl: I don't know what kind of cat food you're buying. Must not be the same brand I'm familiar with.
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Can someone, for the love of all that is Holy, tell me just who the F*CK the "Cat Food elite" are????
Fur-Ball warriors...
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:rofl: I don't know what kind of cat food you're buying. Must not be the same brand I'm familiar with.
Fancy Feast, dude. Kittehs love it bettah than catnip. :naughty:
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I would have sent her ass back to the kitchen, but I remembered she didn't have a house.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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I would have sent her ass back to the kitchen, but I remembered she didn't have a house.
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/ManifoldDestiny.jpg)
Just because you don't have a house doesn't mean you can't cook.
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This stuff...
(http://fancyfeast.com/_res/i/products/focus/50000-00456.jpg)
(http://fancyfeast.com/_res/i/products/package/50000-00456.jpg)
I give it to my cats for a "treat". It's a damn sight nicer food than bobbo usually gets, but my cats are worth it...she is not.
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The homeless leave a smaller carbon footprint. She should be proud.
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The homeless leave a smaller carbon footprint. She should be proud.
I don't know about that. Since she doesn't have access to a shower on a regular basis, and unless she uses Summer's Eve, I would bet she's polluting the ozone with her excessive heat.
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This stuff...
(http://fancyfeast.com/_res/i/products/focus/50000-00456.jpg)
(http://fancyfeast.com/_res/i/products/package/50000-00456.jpg)
I give it to my cats for a "treat". It's a damn sight nicer food than bobbo usually gets, but my cats are worth it...she is not.
Bobo is not worth the water it would take to put out a fire that maybe someday some crazed would be helpful liberal will light under her azz when they realize she's a horrid bitter person.
I really believe she's a mole though. No one could be that stupid and obtuse IRL.
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I don't know about that. Since she doesn't have access to a shower on a regular basis, and unless she uses Summer's Eve, I would bet she's polluting the ozone with her excessive meat heat.
:puke: Never heard THAT descriptor before.
Please, someone, where's the mind bleach? :thatsright:
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Dog Food tastes just like Pate (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/01/tech/main4984433.shtml)
Cat food eaters might not be too far off the mark :evillaugh:
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I have a friend that just got married and bought a house. I'm going to try that when he has his house-warming party. :evillaugh:
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Bobbo is a mole.....*ME*...VRWC...Black Ops...trust me et al...
We will flame her out in short order...just because...
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Bobbo is a mole.....*ME*...VRWC...Black Ops...trust me et al...
We will flame her out in short order...just because...
No, I'm begging you to leave her be. Singlehandly she provides me more amusement daily than a barrellful of monkwya. :rotf:
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Bobbo + Dr Jack Kevorkian = The world is a much nicer place.
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Dayum, youall are just NOT GETTING BOOBOO'S POINT. She doesn't want a cardboard box, nor her dated rattletrap on wheels, but her own, solely for her own use, 4-bedroom, 2-bath spacious house, all utilities paid, groceries delivered, swimming pool and personal cabana boy. Anything less than this is simply unacceptable.
:hammer:on you for the cardboard box meme. BOOBOO accepts nothing less than the above. :tongue: :rotf:
No, I got the point. For Bobo, a cardboard box would be an improvement. And more than she richly deserves.
She's starting to remind me of the woman that stated she won't have to work anymore, because Obama was gonna pay her mortgage, put gas in her car, etc., etc.
GIMME, GIMME, GIMME. It's all you hear from the left all the time, and they have the stupidity to call the rich "greedy". At least the rich WORK for their money.
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This stuff...
(http://fancyfeast.com/_res/i/products/focus/50000-00456.jpg)
(http://fancyfeast.com/_res/i/products/package/50000-00456.jpg)
I give it to my cats for a "treat". It's a damn sight nicer food than bobbo usually gets, but my cats are worth it...she is not.
Is that a freakin shrimp laying on top? Srsly, a fracking shrimp?
That's it, I'm buying cat food from now on.
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Is that a freakin shrimp laying on top? Srsly, a fracking shrimp?
That's it, I'm buying cat food from now on.
From the gulf coast.
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From the gulf coast.
Ain't nothing wrong with them at this point. The stupid ones have already died and only the ones smart enough to get out of the oil survive. :-)
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Bobbo is a mole.....*ME*...VRWC...Black Ops...trust me et al...
We will flame her out in short order...just because...
:thatsright:
PG, try to guess what I'm thinking right now. :hammer:
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:thatsright:
PG, try to guess what I'm thinking right now. :hammer:
"My bologna has a first name it's O-P-S-E-C, my bologna has a second name it's S-T-F-U"...and so forth.
Sorry, I'll go hide now.... :-)
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Oh my........
pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Aug-29-10 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #115
120. Right now I can't even work up
the energy necessary for outrage, I'm just nearly panic-stricken and sick.
My disability involves a whole host of depression/anxiety disorders along with agoraphobia.
People shouldn't be subjected to unwarranted fears, and it's even worse for someone like myself who definitely doesn't need added stress from worrying if, or when, the axe might fall.
Then there's the whole bit about people committing suicide in droves...
blech. The OP needs to stop with the dramatics and give us facts.
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Bobbo the Hobo is about to send me into a preggo rage. :censored:
What a lazy, no-good, waste of oxygen. And my tax dollars support this leech? She was given several options to help her on a personal level (which, one would assume, would allow her to help on a societal scale) and all she can do is bitch and moan? REALLY? God forbid you lift one lazy-ass finger to help yourself!
Seriously? She needs to STFU and quit complaining and waiting for someone to do it all for her. She has two good hands and an internet connection, there is no reason for her not to do it her own ****ing self. I ****ing hate people like this, who believe that they are OWED something just because they exist. Here's a hint, Bobbo-the world owes you NOTHING. NOT ONE DAMN THING. If you don't like something, go out and change it YOURSELF instead of complaining and relying on others to do it FOR YOU.
And take the ****ing pole out of your ass. God, you're a bitter old hag. No wonder you have no friends.
/end rant
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Bobbo the Hobo is about to send me into a preggo rage. :censored:
What a lazy, no-good, waste of oxygen. And my tax dollars support this leech? She was given several options to help her on a personal level (which, one would assume, would allow her to help on a societal scale) and all she can do is bitch and moan? REALLY? God forbid you lift one lazy-ass finger to help yourself!
Seriously? She needs to STFU and quit complaining and waiting for someone to do it all for her. She has two good hands and an internet connection, there is no reason for her not to do it her own ****ing self. I ****ing hate people like this, who believe that they are OWED something just because they exist. Here's a hint, Bobbo-the world owes you NOTHING. NOT ONE DAMN THING. If you don't like something, go out and change it YOURSELF instead of complaining and relying on others to do it FOR YOU.
And take the ****ing pole out of your ass. God, you're a bitter old hag. No wonder you have no friends.
/end rant
Bitter old bobo supposedly had her child kidnapped at a young age, who knows how many years ago, and ever since then she can't surmount the tragedy. Instead of moving along with her life, as my MIL did when her 19-year old son was killed in a traffic accident, or dedicating her life to helping others like Adam Walsh did when his 6-year old son was murdered, shit, bobo has made the tragedy ALL ABOUT HER. God help me, but even if her story is true, I don't give a rat's ass considering what a shriveled piece of human excrement she is nowadays.
If she truly holds the beliefs she does all I can surmise is that she belongs in a padded room. She can keep UGP company, or hector UGP to death claiming UGP doesn't care about the poor.
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hector UGP to death claiming UGP doesn't care about the poor.
I like that option!
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From the gulf coast.
It's a little oily but it makes the cat shit easily...
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It's a little oily but it makes the cat shit easily...
I don't know about yours, but mine really doesn't have a problem with that.
:-)
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"Thousands of people killed themselves?" "The massive cut offs of Raygun?" Yeah, whatever lies you want to believe, Bobo.
:mental:
Eventually the primitives need to wise up and just not respond to her nonsense. Several have done that to some degree with UGP. But expecting the primitives to wise up is like leading to hippy to water and trying to make the bathe.
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My Great, Great. Grandma, never worked a day in her life other than to take care of a Railroader that got killed on the job, and raise kids! It was damn dangerous to be a switchman back in the 20's! She never remarried as he was the love of her life!
Hey Bobo! ya wanna know who took care of her? We did! The whole FamDamnLY! We bought her a little house across from her oldest daughter, made sure it was furnished with all of her belongings, and checked in daily, much to her dismay, as she didn't want to be a burden! I used to do all her yard work when I was just 8 years old. It's precisely "victims" like you that have destroyed the family!
You and your brethren have burnt so many bridges, playin' the victim, your families would just as soon ya kicked the bucket because you have done nothing more than alienate your loved ones!
How many times have you and yours just complained to those who were trying to help because you didn't think it was enough? I'd have thrown ya out on your ear, too!
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My Great, Great. Grandma, never worked a day in her life other than to take care of a Railroader that got killed on the job, and raise kids! It was damn dangerous to be a switchman back in the 20's! She never remarried as he was the love of her life!
Hey Bobo! ya wanna know who took care of her? We did! The whole FamDamnLY! We bought her a little house across from her oldest daughter, made sure it was furnished with all of her belongings, and checked in daily, much to her dismay, as she didn't want to be a burden! I used to do all her yard work when I was just 8 years old. It's precisely "victims" like you that have destroyed the family!
You and your brethren have burnt so many bridges, playin' the victim, your families would just as soon ya kicked the bucket because you have done nothing more than alienate your loved ones!
How many times have you and yours just complained to those who were trying to help because you didn't think it was enough? I'd have thrown ya out on your ear, too!
ITA with this. My Grandmother became a widow in 1940, she was pregnant with her 7th child and had 6 kids under the age of 9, everyone in the family took care of her, and my single Aunt lived with her as an adult. Now fast forward a generation, I have my Mom and 2 Aunts left, 1 of my Aunts moved in with her Daughter when she became a widow, and hubby and I moved my Mom and her Sister in with us when it became too expensive for them to keep up with their rent and bills. My MIL just became a widow this past winter and hubby and I have said we'd have to put our house on the market and get a bigger house if it ever came to the point where my MIL wasn't able to take care of herself. I have no idea where this mentality came about of pawning people off on the system.
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I find it endlessly hilarious when noobies encounter Bobbolink, such as Thomas QED. They reply to her with seeming compassion and caring, thinking they're going to get DUmp cred. Reading it is like watching a horror movie when the teenagers head down into the basement. DON'T DO IT!!!
The noobie comes away utterly befuddled, his head spinning, having been shown that some people simply can't be helped. This is the only thing that makes me consider her a mole. Her behavior may make the noobie start to think.
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BoBo coughs up a "Thank You Du" thread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9046102
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-30-10 07:26 PM
Original message
A big DU Thank You to the DU members who really came through!
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 07:36 PM by bobbolink
Several DU members who posted in my thread on SSI and SSDI terminations really showed their support and I wanted to take this opportunity express the sense of gratitude their responses engendered.
In yesterday's thread about the increasing terminations of people on disability, there was significant progress made.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Following is a brief run-down of the suggestions and research.
I want to thank scarletwoman first and foremost for adding this issue to her campaign against the demolition of Social Security. Those of us on the bottom rungs of this issue are usually forgotten, and the suffering is immense. Thank you, scarletwoman, for your activism to put us in the focus of your effort!
Thank you to DJ13 for "Exhibit A"
Said it perfectly.
Coburn quoted a book, “The Tragedy of American Compassion,†which he said “talks about how we used to care for everyone who needs our help.†Now everyone relies on the government, he said.
“SSDI has been so monkeyed and maneuvered, fully half the people on it are not truly disabled,†Coburn said, referring to the Social Security Disability Insurance program. I want to help people who are fully disabled, but we have created dependency. And I agree on the drug testing.â€
http://muskogeephoenix.com/local/x329608417/Coburn-Hold...
{snip}
Small blaze at the moment but it may grow.
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BoBo coughs up a "Thank You Du" thread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9046102
Small blaze at the moment but it may grow.
My eyes glazed over after the first para, but didn't it sound like she was campaigning? Must have decided the carrot approach would work better than the tongue lashing she was giving everyone.