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Title: Revealed: Crappy Employees DO NOT Like High Wages, Bennies
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on August 20, 2010, 08:03:50 AM
Donnachaidh seems to have a thing for dissidentvoice.org, which, based on the strength of its arguments, seems to be some freshman college student's wordpress blog with a .org domain to make it seem as if there is actually a group of scholars and experts moving in the background.

As it is, the cited article was written by a playwright...and not a very skilled one either.

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Donnachaidh  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Fri Aug-20-10 12:38 PM
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Anti-Union Propaganda Takes Many Forms
   
http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/08/anti-union-propaganda... /

Of all the obnoxious myths about labor unions (e.g., they’re too strong, they’re too weak, they’re mobbed-up, they’re anachronistic, they’re undemocratic, etc.) the one that most rankles is the claim that union members don’t make good employees because, being protected by a big, bad labor union, they have no incentive to work.

People with even a modicum of common sense have to see how absurd that premise is. Jobs in the community that pay the highest wages, offer the best fringe benefits, and provide the safest and most comfortable working conditions (in other words, union jobs) are going to attract the best people, the most qualified people. How could it be otherwise?

I don't know which is worse the presumption that crappy people never look for higher wages and benefits or te fact that such a patently absurd statement is shielded by "How could it be otherwise?"

Of course it's true because every one knows it's true! You'd have to be stupid to know it's not true so just believe me to prove how not stupid you are!

Of course following this logic if great wages and fringe benefits automatically makes one the best employee evah then this speaks well of the CEOs of BP and AIG.

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In truth, based on everything I’ve personally seen and heard, I’ve always been stunned by the converse of that dubious claim. I’ve always been impressed by how hard union people were willing to work, especially on those occasions where slacking off, taking a breather, or flat-out throwing in the towel would’ve made far more sense.

Take for example the graveyard shift of Kimberly-Clark’s tissue converting (Kleenex) department in Fullerton, California. These folks worked like demons, like frenetic, crazy people, doing every heroic thing in their power to keep the machines running—up to and including violating department safety rules.

More at the link ---

Kleenex?

Heroic?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8981302

And since when did lefties suddenly begin applauding corporations for allowing employees to work in unsafe conditions to enhance productivity?
Title: Re: Revealed: Crappy Employees DO NOT Like High Wages, Bennies
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 20, 2010, 08:13:07 AM
Did anyone see the piece this week, where a major union's HQ employees tried to unionize--and the union busted the attempt up?  It might have been on Michelle Malkin's blog.
Title: Re: Revealed: Crappy Employees DO NOT Like High Wages, Bennies
Post by: jukin on August 20, 2010, 09:41:38 AM
I dare any DUmbass to point out one single item that a union does to actually help the business run better.
Title: Re: Revealed: Crappy Employees DO NOT Like High Wages, Bennies
Post by: Wineslob on August 20, 2010, 09:48:06 AM
I'd like to ask the DUmbass OP, just how much does a Union worker make, per hr, AFTER dues compared to the per hr wage?
As far as Union workers working harder that anyone else......bullshit.
I personally watched Union forklift drivers play cards in between unloading trucks (Port of Sacramento). They were, however, at a stand up table so as not to be in violation of Union rules.   :whatever:
These same assholes would not lift a finger to do ANYTHING else other than drive a forklift because it wasn't in their job description. (see the card table)
I won't even touch on the one overriding thing Union workers work overtime on................grievances.
Title: Re: Revealed: Crappy Employees DO NOT Like High Wages, Bennies
Post by: AllosaursRus on August 20, 2010, 10:37:47 AM
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People with even a modicum of common sense have to see how absurd that premise is. Jobs in the community that pay the highest wages, offer the best fringe benefits, and provide the safest and most comfortable working conditions (in other words, union jobs) are going to attract the best people, the most qualified people. How could it be otherwise?

This is a comedy routine, right?

I pushed jobs in construction and worked with both union and non-union. Wanna guess who the most productive of the two were, DUmbass?

(http://a.imageshack.us/img833/3440/adu118.gif)

I didn't think so! You're not only a liar, you're damn liar!
Title: Re: Revealed: Crappy Employees DO NOT Like High Wages, Bennies
Post by: delilahmused on August 20, 2010, 10:53:57 AM
Wow that's stupid. Really, really stupid. Like stubbing your toe whilst sitting in a recliner stupid.

Cindie
Title: Re: Revealed: Crappy Employees DO NOT Like High Wages, Bennies
Post by: Tantal on August 20, 2010, 11:51:36 AM
Did anyone see the piece this week, where a major union's HQ employees tried to unionize--and the union busted the attempt up?  It might have been on Michelle Malkin's blog.
The International Union of Union Union Workers? Great idea. They can start demanding that the Union workers pay them a higher salary and give them better benefits. Classic.
Title: Re: Revealed: Crappy Employees DO NOT Like High Wages, Bennies
Post by: Karin on August 20, 2010, 12:30:50 PM
That paragraph..."People with a modicum....."   I'm speechless.  The comments are sparse over there.  One lazy "K&R," and Thomcat going on a rant about how super duper the unions are. 

I worked for much of my career in paper mills.  Those guys do a whole lot of sitting around.  There was plenty of drinking, sleeping, and even sex going on out there.  They could parlay a papercut into hours sitting around the nurse's office, shooting the breeze with each other. 
Title: Re: Revealed: Crappy Employees DO NOT Like High Wages, Bennies
Post by: NHSparky on August 21, 2010, 07:47:23 AM
The International Union of Union Union Workers? Great idea. They can start demanding that the Union workers pay them a higher salary and give them better benefits. Classic.

No kidding.  While I've been compelled to be a member, being in the utility industry in "closed shop" states since I left the service, I've seen that the stronger the union, the more ineffective and inefficient the workforce.

Just an observation.

ETA: And LTNS, Tantal.  Welcome back.
Title: Re: Revealed: Crappy Employees DO NOT Like High Wages, Bennies
Post by: PatriotGame on August 21, 2010, 08:48:25 PM

Kleenex?

Heroic?


"Kleenex" - DUmmy code word for rolling papers.

"Heroic" - Anyone that enables the availability of rolling papers is a default hero to a DUmmy.

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Take for example the graveyard shift of Kimberly-Clark’s tissue converting (Kleenex) department in Fullerton, California. These folks worked like demons, like frenetic, crazy people, doing every heroic thing in their power to keep the machines running—up to and including violating department safety rules.

Meth - makes a DUmmy union whore "more productive" than the average slug.
The VRWC has a manufacturing plant drinking water enhancement "program" don't-cha know...

Of course we will FORGET to mention that EVERY FRACKING union shop DEMANDS a 1/2 hour PAID safety meeting every freaking day beginning of shift and FULL DAY of "safety" training every three months. Then the union EMPLOYEE'S employer, can tout their safety sign touting:

"This facility has accomplished 32 days without a lost time accident!"