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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: The Hollywood NeoCon on August 20, 2010, 05:43:22 AM

Title: WH acknowledging that Obamacare WON'T lead to lower healthcare costs?
Post by: The Hollywood NeoCon on August 20, 2010, 05:43:22 AM
Yesterday, over at Politico, Ben Smith reported something very interesting. If it had been about a shift in messaging from a Republican White House, it would be the talk of the three broadcast networks news programs while CNN ran panel discussions on how this was a sign of an Administration in disarray.  Instead, right now, it’s only getting some notice on (mostly) right-of-center web-sites.

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Key White House allies are dramatically shifting their attempts to defend health care legislation, abandoning claims that it will reduce costs and deficit and instead stressing a promise to “improve it.”

The messaging shift was circulated this afternoon on a conference call and PowerPoint presentation (http://www.politico.com/static/PPM153_pp.html) organized by Families USA — one of the central groups in the push for the initial legislation. The call was led by a staffer for the Herndon Alliance, which includes leading labor groups and other health care allies. It was based on polling from three top Democratic pollsters: John Anzalone, Celinda Lake and Stan Greenberg.

Emphasis added. Every American represented by a Democrat who voted for this legislation should ask his Representative or Senator about the White House change of tone.  They might report that individuals who pay for their own health insurance have seen premiums skyrocket while large companies will get hit with a 9% increase in health care costs. (http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/18/video-large-companies-will-get-hit-with-9-increase-in-health-costs-under-obamacare/)

David Freddoso calls this "Abject panic at the White House." (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/abject-panic-at-the-white-house-101107519.html) Allahpundit seems to agree: (http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/19/oh-my-new-lefty-obamacare-message-drops-promise-of-cost-cutting-vows-to-improve-law/)

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But even so, the fact that they’re now so far in retreat that they’re willing to make rhetorical concessions even on their idiotic core plank about bending the cost curve shows just how worried they are that the GOP (a) will be making big, big gains in November and (b) might just have the public support needed to get a serious pro-repeal movement going among the electorate. This is pure defense.

Watch for the number of Americans favoring repeal to climb above 60% as stay there — as they see their healthcare bills rise and notice how the Democrats change their tone on the “cost curve.”
Title: Re: WH acknowledging that Obamacare WON'T lead to lower healthcare costs?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 20, 2010, 06:54:58 AM
I saw something to this effect this morning on Fox & Friends.  It's interesting, isn't it? 

They know their asses (yes, punny) are going to be kicked this November.  My fervent hope is that enough of the defeated Dims--and the ones that barely escaped being defeated--don't decide to go on a huge spree in the lame-duck session.  There is precedent for that; waaaaay back at the beginning of the 19th Century, when the Federalists tried to hamstring the incoming President (Jefferson).  Their party ceased to exist in the next few years, as American voters (yes, even then) punished them severely at the polls, and they faded from the political landscape.
Title: Re: WH acknowledging that Obamacare WON'T lead to lower healthcare costs?
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 20, 2010, 07:00:24 AM
Well now, looks like Joe Wilson was right, "You lie!"
Title: Re: WH acknowledging that Obamacare WON'T lead to lower healthcare costs?
Post by: Carl on August 20, 2010, 08:05:52 AM
How does this all tie in with CBO sign offs and the reconciliation process if it all was (as we knew) a scam?
Title: Re: WH acknowledging that Obamacare WON'T lead to lower healthcare costs?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 20, 2010, 08:58:45 AM
How does this all tie in with CBO sign offs and the reconciliation process if it all was (as we knew) a scam?

Neighbor, remember the attitude of the DUmors--if it helps Obama and brings socialism, it's all good. :censored:

PS--the Gibson For Congress campaign office in CP is about a mile from where I live.  I may have to go in there and volunteer at some point.
Title: Re: WH acknowledging that Obamacare WON'T lead to lower healthcare costs?
Post by: Zeus on August 20, 2010, 10:46:27 AM
It's not a tax and healthcare costs will be lowered. It is a tax and HC costs are going through the roof.
Title: Re: WH acknowledging that Obamacare WON'T lead to lower healthcare costs?
Post by: Carl on August 20, 2010, 11:19:40 AM
Neighbor, remember the attitude of the DUmors--if it helps Obama and brings socialism, it's all good. :censored:

PS--the Gibson For Congress campaign office in CP is about a mile from where I live.  I may have to go in there and volunteer at some point.

Once we get into the fall I have offered to do the same.
Title: Re: WH acknowledging that Obamacare WON'T lead to lower healthcare costs?
Post by: true_blood on August 20, 2010, 01:01:49 PM
Well now, looks like Joe Wilson was right, "You lie!"

Very true Johnny! :cheersmate:
If Lord Zero is lying, (which most of here can agree), then Senator Wilson is a great man for calling the communist out on national TV and letting the world know that he is a liar! I commend him for that! :hi5: :cheersmate: