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Title: mama's back, remembers leaving Vietnam
Post by: franksolich on August 19, 2010, 09:09:10 AM
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Oh my.

The maternal ancestress of the Bostonian Drunkard is back, too.

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Raven  (1000+ posts)      Thu Aug-19-10 07:37 AM
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Remember our exit from Vietnam?

People trying to scale the fence of the US compound...desperately trying to board helicopters?

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mdmc  (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-19-10 07:45 AM
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2. I don't remember per se

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Scruffy1  (333 posts)        Thu Aug-19-10 07:53 AM
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4. This was not our exit-another media invention

The troops had all gone home. What you saw leaving was the guard of Marines at the US embassy. Just goes to show you how powerful the Ministry of Truth is. This little piece of propaganda had a powerful effect on keeping future wars going and the profits flowing, just like the bullshit about soldiers being spit on in the USA. No researcher has been able to find any media mention of it until the Reagan campaign. Divide and conquer. If we don't stay the course...............All Bullshit. I just heard Senator In your way repeat this bs.

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Javaman  (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-19-10 09:08 AM
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10. Um, leaving the nation, even if it was from the embassy, is still an an exit. 

we had no diplomatic ties, no troops and no personal, after we left the embassy. That is an exit, last time I checked.

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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-19-10 09:11 AM
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11. retreat is probably a better word than 'exit'

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Javaman  (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-19-10 09:24 AM
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16. I don't like using the word "retreating" because that gives the morons who think we had a snowballs chance of "winning" over there, more ammo in thinking we "ran away" because of those "dirty hippies".

We left because we got our asses kicked. Plain and simple.

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MadMaddie  (1000+ posts)      Thu Aug-19-10 09:46 AM
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19. America has a bad habit of going into places where other countries got their ass kicked and got out by defeat.

Vietnam - The French got slaughtered and got the hell out. What did the U.S do? Well, it's history.

Afghanastan, same thing - Communist Russia fell because of Afghanastan.

Iraq - we should have never been there.

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Javaman  (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-19-10 09:52 AM
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22. American egotism...

We have this bizarre and very misplaced need to go into a nation, were others have failed miserably, to prove, for some unfounded reason, that we will success.

For the past 65 years the US has lived off the legacy of WWII. It has been a colossal detriment to this nation.

We learned nothing.

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d_r  (699 posts)        Thu Aug-19-10 07:55 AM
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5. I do

One of the first memories I have was of the news showing them pushing the helicopters from the ships so more could land.

I thought of that last night as I was watching the news from Iraq.

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david13  (1000+ posts)      Thu Aug-19-10 08:47 AM
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9. I remember it. But I do not remember it as "mine" or "our" exit. It was the exit of the american government, the military, etc. It had nothing to do with me.

I was in no way, shape, or form any part of it.

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Bandit (1000+ posts)      Thu Aug-19-10 09:16 AM
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13. There is a huge difference

The third largest army in the world was bearing down on Saigon and many Vietnamese that had helped Americans or the South Vietnamese government feared ,rightly, for their very lives..There is simply no comparison between Vietnam and Iraq.

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Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-19-10 09:19 AM
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14. yes

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ThomWV  (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-19-10 09:49 AM
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20. Just goes to show, there's more than one way to start and end an illegal war.

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AngryAmish  (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-19-10 09:50 AM
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21. I do. I was very young.

Sad day for many people exiled or sent to the gulog.
Title: Re: mama's back, remembers leaving Vietnam
Post by: thundley4 on August 19, 2010, 09:40:12 AM
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Javaman  (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-19-10 09:24 AM
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16. I don't like using the word "retreating" because that gives the morons who think we had a snowballs chance of "winning" over there, more ammo in thinking we "ran away" because of those "dirty hippies".

We left because we got our asses kicked. Plain and simple.

**** you DUmmie. It was the dirty, smelly hippies along with a leftist agenda media, like Walter Cronkite that drove public opinion to believe we were losing.
Title: Re: mama's back, remembers leaving Vietnam
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 19, 2010, 09:54:19 AM
**** you DUmmie. It was the dirty, smelly hippies along with a leftist agenda media, like Walter Cronkite that drove public opinion to believe we were losing.

I think it was because a democrat congress cut off the funds.
Title: Re: mama's back, remembers leaving Vietnam
Post by: thundley4 on August 19, 2010, 10:13:34 AM
I think it was because a democrat congress cut off the funds.

Which they did because of the turning tide of public opinion, right?
Title: Re: mama's back, remembers leaving Vietnam
Post by: AllosaursRus on August 19, 2010, 12:45:01 PM
I like how Mama Pit relates to spitting on soldiers as propaganda or a myth! ****in' TRAITOR!

Who was it over there that advocated spitting on our soldiers returning from Iraq, but only when no one was lookin'?

Go back to Uranus, mama Pitster!