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Interests => All Things Edible (and how to prepare them) => Topic started by: vesta111 on August 16, 2010, 01:32:14 PM

Title: Kitchen experiment.
Post by: vesta111 on August 16, 2010, 01:32:14 PM
  In my search for Gluten free food I sent hubby out to buy Rice flour.

He came home with about 2 cups of flour What the hell, this is nuts. That cost more then 5 pounds of regular wheat flour.

So I decided to risk the cost of breaking an expensive blender and dragged it out of the back of the pantry where it lives for most of the year.

Holding my breath I placed 2 cups of white rice and a Tablespoon of old bay in the blender and let it rip.

Son of a Gun, playing with the blender On for 60 seconds off and stirring with spoon the mixture, then on again, perhaps 6 times and there it was, Rice flour and seasoned to boot.

I have no idea how my fried chicken will cook up or taste, but it occur ed to me that I could add to the rice flour dried herbs and spices, store it and use for gravy's or sauces.


This will be fun, I wonder if I can make rice bread, cakes or substitute this for Arrow Root.?




Title: Re: Kitchen experiment.
Post by: Wineslob on August 17, 2010, 02:34:56 PM
You have coeliac disease, dermatitis herpetiformis, or wheat allergy???   Damn.
Title: Re: Kitchen experiment.
Post by: vesta111 on August 17, 2010, 04:41:10 PM
You have coeliac disease, dermatitis herpetiformis, or wheat allergy???   Damn.

This is what I am trying to find out.

Out of the Blue I developed nerve damage so bad I broke my ankle. Hubby had been asking me for 2 weeks why I was walking funny, I had no pain then but began to feel awful, flu symptoms with no fever but cold chills.

I was standing outside in one spot looking at my garden I just fell over, no reason but I heard the bone snap.

After 3 doctors I was tested by this doctor that zaps electric currency into your nerves and he diagnosed me with severe nerve damage.

That was 18 months ago and I have checked every web site spoken with doctors and patients and finally found a common problem, dozens of people with nerve damage are also allergic to Gluten and get flu symptoms when they eat something with hidden fillers or MSG.

I found a paper on this allergy, printed it out and took it to my doctor to read and was told to give the diet a try, I have nothing to loose.

Good news is that by staying off my feet 22 hours a day some kinds of regeneration is going on as the the new test I just had shows some improvement.

Thank you for the interest.

Respectfully yours    Vesta
Title: Re: Kitchen experiment.
Post by: Thor on August 17, 2010, 04:47:56 PM


After 3 doctors I was tested by this doctor that zaps electric currency into your nerves and he diagnosed me with severe nerve damage.

That's called an EMG....



I would suggest that there's more going on than just some sort of allergy. Do you have diabetes??  That's a common cause of neuropathy. I would recommend that you find a good neurologist and have them check you out. Were you in Texas, I have a dandy Neuro to recommend.  You don't need a referral if you're on Tricare Standard.

I have the neuropathy and it's caused by that spinocerebellar ataxia I have, or so we think. It could also be caused and/or aggravated by the diabetes and the spinal cord injuries/ surgeries.

MSG also affects me pretty negatively. However, I wouldn't say that I'm allergic to it.
Title: Re: Kitchen experiment.
Post by: debk on August 20, 2010, 11:40:14 AM
That's called an EMG....



I would suggest that there's more going on than just some sort of allergy. Do you have diabetes??  That's a common cause of neuropathy. I would recommend that you find a good neurologist and have them check you out. Were you in Texas, I have a dandy Neuro to recommend.  You don't need a referral if you're on Tricare Standard.

I have the neuropathy and it's caused by that spinocerebellar ataxia I have, or so we think. It could also be caused and/or aggravated by the diabetes and the spinal cord injuries/ surgeries.

MSG also affects me pretty negatively. However, I wouldn't say that I'm allergic to it.


I don't know what it is about MSG. Sometimes I'm ok with it, other times, it's like I've been poisoned!

There used to be - may still be - a seasoning called "Praise Allah". It has a high level of MSG, and if I have it on something, it's a very bad thing. It's a flavor enhancer, and was used a lot by restaurants, particularly on meat (beef) as a tenderizer.

I had a chef tell me one time, that there are two types of MSG....a "real" type - I assume he meant natural, and a synthetic type....I didn't understand which one was the worst, but the bad one is the one in Praise Allah. He told me that a lot of people had problems with it, and their restaurants had quit using it.

Someone recently told me that "Tiger Salt" (?) is the same thing, just a different name....guess "Praise Allah" is not the best name, these days ::)...

I can't say that I'm allergic to it either, but there are times that I've had it, that the effects have been so bad, I've contemplated going to the hospital, and I have passed out from the effects. Scary stuff. Used to be, the closer the incidents of having it, the worse the effects.
Title: Re: Kitchen experiment.
Post by: vesta111 on August 20, 2010, 12:31:49 PM

I don't know what it is about MSG. Sometimes I'm ok with it, other times, it's like I've been poisoned!

There used to be - may still be - a seasoning called "Praise Allah". It has a high level of MSG, and if I have it on something, it's a very bad thing. It's a flavor enhancer, and was used a lot by restaurants, particularly on meat (beef) as a tenderizer.

I had a chef tell me one time, that there are two types of MSG....a "real" type - I assume he meant natural, and a synthetic type....I didn't understand which one was the worst, but the bad one is the one in Praise Allah. He told me that a lot of people had problems with it, and their restaurants had quit using it.

Someone recently told me that "Tiger Salt" (?) is the same thing, just a different name....guess "Praise Allah" is not the best name, these days ::)...

I can't say that I'm allergic to it either, but there are times that I've had it, that the effects have been so bad, I've contemplated going to the hospital, and I have passed out from the effects. Scary stuff. Used to be, the closer the incidents of having it, the worse the effects.


OMG Debk  how you made me laugh.

Praise Allah seasoning for beef .??

Is this anything like JESUS JUICE given to the kids in Mickeys J. bedroom .?

Just how sure are you that this spice was meant to be used on food and not a for runner of Viagra.???

You my dear have made my day, the visuals you sent me are priceless.
Title: Re: Kitchen experiment.
Post by: debk on August 20, 2010, 12:50:42 PM
OMG Debk  how you made me laugh.

Praise Allah seasoning for beef .??

Is this anything like JESUS JUICE given to the kids in Mickeys J. bedroom .?

Just how sure are you that this spice was meant to be used on food and not a for runner of Viagra.???

You my dear have made my day, the visuals you sent me are priceless.


Actually, Vesta....I am dead ass serious about this stuff.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_praise_Allah_the_seasoning

http://community.tasteofhome.com/forums/p/350839/4340126.aspx

This is what it is now.....Tiger Seasoning.

http://www.redbagcollection.com/tigerseasoning.html


Glad I made your day.... though, I'm really not sure how.....

http://vintagescans.blogspot.com/2009/08/praise-allah.html
Title: Re: Kitchen experiment.
Post by: JLO on August 28, 2010, 09:47:55 PM
That's called an EMG....



I would suggest that there's more going on than just some sort of allergy. Do you have diabetes??  That's a common cause of neuropathy. I would recommend that you find a good neurologist and have them check you out. Were you in Texas, I have a dandy Neuro to recommend.  You don't need a referral if you're on Tricare Standard.

I have the neuropathy and it's caused by that spinocerebellar ataxia I have, or so we think. It could also be caused and/or aggravated by the diabetes and the spinal cord injuries/ surgeries.

MSG also affects me pretty negatively. However, I wouldn't say that I'm allergic to it.

Here's a link that may enlighten (or not).

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/peripheral-neuropathy/DS00131/DSECTION=causes
Title: Re: Kitchen experiment.
Post by: Boudicca on August 28, 2010, 10:28:14 PM
This is what I am trying to find out.

Out of the Blue I developed nerve damage so bad I broke my ankle. Hubby had been asking me for 2 weeks why I was walking funny, I had no pain then but began to feel awful, flu symptoms with no fever but cold chills.

I was standing outside in one spot looking at my garden I just fell over, no reason but I heard the bone snap.

After 3 doctors I was tested by this doctor that zaps electric currency into your nerves and he diagnosed me with severe nerve damage.

That was 18 months ago and I have checked every web site spoken with doctors and patients and finally found a common problem, dozens of people with nerve damage are also allergic to Gluten and get flu symptoms when they eat something with hidden fillers or MSG.

I found a paper on this allergy, printed it out and took it to my doctor to read and was told to give the diet a try, I have nothing to loose.

Good news is that by staying off my feet 22 hours a day some kinds of regeneration is going on as the the new test I just had shows some improvement.

Thank you for the interest.

Respectfully yours    Vesta


Vesta, honey, there is some damn expensive blood test for celiac disease.  My gastroenterologist sent me for one in Tucson because I was exhibiting signs of the disease.  Markers came back where I'm susceptible to the durn disorder but don't have it yet.  I hope you don't, but get that blood test!!
Title: Re: Kitchen experiment.
Post by: Thor on August 29, 2010, 01:12:42 PM
The blood test for my SCA cost me $1K out of pocket. Tricare picked up the other $4K that they allowed. Initially, the company charged some $8K+
Title: Re: Kitchen experiment.
Post by: Boudicca on August 29, 2010, 09:55:30 PM
The blood test for my SCA cost me $1K out of pocket. Tricare picked up the other $4K that they allowed. Initially, the company charged some $8K+

I thank God for Tricare every time I go in for a consult, regular doctor's appointment, blood test, surgery, etc.
Title: Re: Kitchen experiment.
Post by: Thor on August 29, 2010, 10:03:54 PM
One of the many reasons I stayed in until I was able to retire. There were a couple of times I considered getting out and pursuing other professions. (@ 10 years and again at 15 years)
Title: Re: Kitchen experiment.
Post by: Boudicca on August 29, 2010, 10:07:27 PM
One of the many reasons I stayed in until I was able to retire. There were a couple of times I considered getting out and pursuing other professions. (@ 10 years and again at 15 years)

My husband was talking about getting out at 10, then retiring at 20...somehow this morphed into his retiring at THIRTY years as a CW5 ( :II: honey!  Loves your retirement check and your new contractor check.
AH SHIT, forgot I should cringe in abject apology for marrying a successful man. :tongue:
Title: Re: Kitchen experiment.
Post by: Thor on August 30, 2010, 06:30:35 PM
I had laid the groundwork for a pretty successful retirement UNTIL my Ex got really greedy, materialistic, and thought that money grew on trees.... (a Real Estate agent that started in the late 90s and found it a very ludicrous business until the real estate market died)