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Title: 10 Murdered on Medical Aid Trip in Afghanistan
Post by: MrsSmith on August 07, 2010, 10:50:04 AM
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babylonsister  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Aug-07-10 06:29 AM
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10 Murdered on Medical Aid Trip in Afghanistan, Including 6 Americans
   
Edited on Sat Aug-07-10 06:29 AM by babylonsister
10 Killed on Medical Aid Trip in Afghanistan
By ROD NORDLAND and SHARIFULLAH SAHAK
Published: August 7, 2010


KABUL, Afghanistan — At least 10 medical personnel, including six Americans, were murdered in northern Afghanistan on Thursday, officials confirmed Saturday. A Taliban spokesman, reached by cellphone, claimed responsibility for the killings.

The bodies from the group, which had been on an expedition to bring eye care and other medical services to remote areas, were found shot to death in a mountainous area of Badakhshan Province, according to the provincial police chief, Aka Noor Kentoz.

The International Assistance Mission, a group that last month had a fund-raiser in Kabul for a medical expedition to Nuristan Province, said six of the dead were Americans, one was German and one was British. Dirk Frans, the executive director of the I.A.M., said the team was headed by Tom Little, an American opthamologist with four decades experience in Afghanistan and a fluent Dari speaker. Mr. Frans said the team numbered 12, including four Afghans, two of whom were killed.

The victims’ bodies were stripped of all belongings, making identification difficult and suggesting robbery as a motive. However, Taliban insurgents are known to be active in the area, and the attackers allowed at least one Afghan to leave the scene unharmed. The survivor, an Afghan driver named Saifullah, told police he was let go because he recited verses from the Koran.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/08/world/asia/08afghan.html?_r=2&hp



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OmmmSweetOmmm  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Aug-07-10 07:10 AM
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1. They were Christian Missionaries and according to the teevee news, bibles were found.
   
They went into the lions den on their own accord.

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The Magistrate  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Aug-07-10 07:25 AM
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5. Do Not Forget, Ma'am, They Were Spies Too....   Updated at 2:49 PM
   
"A spokesman for the Taliban, Zabiullah Mujahid, claimed that the medical team were shot because they ignored an order from the insurgents to stop. Afterwards, he said, they found evidence that the group were American spies and were preaching Christianity. He said they had maps showing their bases, and a Bible
in Dari."



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100807/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan
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The team, made up of doctors, nurses and logistics personnel, was attacked as it was returning to Kabul after the two-week mission in Nuristan, Frans said. They had decided to travel through Badakhshan province to return to the capital because they thought it would be the safest route, Frans said.

Among the dead was team leader Tom Little, an optometrist from Delmar, New York, who has been working in Afghanistan for more than 30 years, Frans said. Another relief organization, Bridge Afghanistan, said on its website that the group included one of its members, Dr. Karen Woo of London.

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The team trekked from village to village during the two weeks, treating about 400 people for eye disorders and other illnesses.

Who cares??  They may have had a Bible, they deserved to die...  [/DUmpMode]

It's a good thing that I "know" liberals really love everyone...otherwise, I'd have to conclude that liberals are among the most selfish and hateful people on this world.   :thatsright:
Title: Re: 10 Murdered on Medical Aid Trip in Afghanistan
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 07, 2010, 11:11:53 AM




http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100807/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan
Who cares??  They may have had a Bible, they deserved to die...  [/DUmpMode]

It's a good thing that I "know" liberals really love everyone...otherwise, I'd have to conclude that liberals are among the most selfish and hateful people on this world.   :thatsright:

Muslims die = a bad thing.....Christians die = a good thing {DU/liberal mode]
Title: Re: 10 Murdered on Medical Aid Trip in Afghanistan
Post by: Chris_ on August 07, 2010, 11:27:25 AM
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1. They were Christian Missionaries and according to the teevee news, bibles were found.
We must tolerate every religion, fetish, etc, others? Not so much
Title: Re: 10 Murdered on Medical Aid Trip in Afghanistan
Post by: crockspot on August 07, 2010, 01:07:40 PM
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The Magistrate  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Aug-07-10 07:25 AM
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5. Do Not Forget, Ma'am, They Were Spies Too....   Updated at 2:49 PM
   
"A spokesman for the Taliban, Zabiullah Mujahid, claimed that the medical team were shot because they ignored an order from the insurgents to stop. Afterwards, he said, they found evidence that the group were American spies and were preaching Christianity. He said they had maps showing their bases, and a Bible in Dari."

The Magistrate is the biggest friggin' tool over there. If I was going into Taliban-infested waters, I sure as hell would want a map showing where they were, so I could avoid those areas.
Title: Re: 10 Murdered on Medical Aid Trip in Afghanistan
Post by: AllosaursRus on August 07, 2010, 03:48:46 PM
Yep! they were spies! They were makin' sure their patients could see, in order to translate all those secret documents we know are just layin' around all over the piles of frikkin' rocks, dropped by the donkeys fleeing American Imperialism!

And hell, we all no Bibles are used as weapons!

When does stooooopid become fatal? There has to be a few hundred at the DUmp livin' on borrowed time!
Title: Re: 10 Murdered on Medical Aid Trip in Afghanistan
Post by: TheSarge on August 08, 2010, 01:56:14 AM
Ok you chickensh*t lurkers...chew on this and then take it back to the other alleged "tolerant" folks at your stupid Island:


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Frans said the International Assistance Mission, the longest serving nongovernmental organization operating in Afghanistan, is registered as a nonprofit Christian organization but does not proselytize.

"This tragedy negatively impacts our ability to continue serving the Afghan people as IAM has been doing since 1966," the charity said in a statement. "We hope it will not stop our work that benefits over a quarter of a million Afghans each year."

The team, made up of doctors, nurses and logistics personnel, was attacked as it was returning to Kabul after the two-week mission in Nuristan, Frans said. They had decided to travel through Badakhshan province to return to the capital because they thought it would be the safest route, Frans said.

Among the dead was team leader Tom Little, an optometrist from Delmar, New York, who has been working in Afghanistan for more than 30 years, Frans said. Another relief organization, Bridge Afghanistan, said on its website that the group included one of its members, Dr. Karen Woo of London.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/7/6-americans-medical-team-killed-afghanistan/

They were over here doing EXACTLY what you  :censored: claim we DON'T DO...helping the poor and the sick in this country.

But for all your  :censored: :censored: talk about charity and how we need to help the world instead of wage war....the minute the people doing EXACTLY what you say needs to be done get killed...you  :censored: start celebrating and buying 100% into the Taliban propaganda bullsh*t!!!

More and more every damn day you idiots prove to the world your true inner selves full of hatred and loathing for anyone and anything that doens't subscribe to your "Hate America At All Costs" backwards view of the world.


You morons would have supported Hitler.
Title: Re: 10 Murdered on Medical Aid Trip in Afghanistan
Post by: MrsSmith on August 08, 2010, 07:22:10 AM

You morons would have supported Hitler.
They would have adored him!
Title: Re: 10 Murdered on Medical Aid Trip in Afghanistan
Post by: diesel driver on August 08, 2010, 07:36:31 AM
They would have adored him!

They worship his clone today.
Title: Re: 10 Murdered on Medical Aid Trip in Afghanistan
Post by: vesta111 on August 08, 2010, 10:03:56 AM
 Saving humans either their body's or souls seems to go hand and hand.

In the East the people seldom interfear in the lives or deaths of strangers.   I heard that the Asians feel that if you interfear in the life or death of another then you take on the responsibility of that person as you have altered their Kama.

The Western concept of Christianity demands just the opposite, we are our brothers keepers.

We all have heard about missionary's ending up in a huge pot of boiling water and vegetables--with a pinch of salt in some Cannibals camp------    Joke here,   What did the Cannibal mother say to her child chasing a missionary about the camp,?    " Don't play with your food Dear "

Those that are willing to risk life and limb to bring to the children medical care to allow them to live ---what is considered in their culture--a normal life are a different breed of people.

How can any society of humans destroy these people, how can they object to others that are creating the impossible through Science.

If it were up to me, I would demand the withdrawal of all help, be it food, medical care, the building of bridges and roads. Make sure the people that need the help know why the help they depend on is no longer available due to the actions against  us of others .

If the people have enough need for outside help, let them decide just how much they need it.   Are they willing to guard and keep safe our Doctors and Staff.?

We have and are willing to give to them food clothing and shelter, medical care and  schools for their children.

Place the need at their door, let them decide.

Scenario---

A small villiage in Central America.   The children are dieing from a common disease.   We have a very effective vaccination and can help.    The village is very poor and the drug dealers are attacking all outsiders.

So who is responsible morally to help the children.?   Is it up to outsiders to risk life and limb to save the children .?

Hell NO it is up to the people in need to use the only wealth they have, Man power.

It is up to Them to get off their Ass and insure the safety of the outsiders against the drug Lords, up to them to put their lives on the line to help their children as they expect the outsiders to do.     This is how undergrounds happen, the men and woman take responsibility for their lives and do not cower in fear.
Title: Re: 10 Murdered on Medical Aid Trip in Afghanistan
Post by: true_blood on August 08, 2010, 10:09:06 AM
They worship his clone today.

Ha ha! Love it diesel driver.
Very true. :cheersmate: