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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: thundley4 on July 29, 2010, 02:53:51 PM
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Boy Scouts celebrated their 100-year anniversary at their National Jamboree in Fort A.P. Hill, Virginia this week. President Obama decided not to attend, so he could instead tape his appearance on The View. That's too bad. For a century, Boy Scouts of America has been a top organization that cultivates young leaders by teaching them patriotism, morals, and responsibility. It’s a group the president should want to promote.
The WeeklyStandard (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/boy-scouts-100)
Avoiding the Boy Scouts was a political decision I'll bet. Teh Gheys and the left in general still don't like the Boy Scouts.
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I went to a Jamboree once there. Like in 78 or 80. G-dad was the Chief Medical Officer. :-)
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Boy Scouts are taught to respect the leaders of their country.
Pretty sad that the "leader" doesn't respect them enough to attend their 100th Anniversary. The fact that he felt going on a morning tv talk show was more important, makes his disrespect even more obvious.
Guess an audience of a 150 or so, adoring, drooling women of voting age, was more attractive than several thousands of upstanding young Americans who aren't old enough to vote.
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God bless the BSA. They have had their ups and downs, but I can't think of any single organization that has done more to prepare boys to be men in this country.
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God bless the BSA. They have had their ups and downs, but I can't think of any single organization that has done more to prepare boys to be men in this country.
Yeppers.
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I have one in scouts and you know I wouldn't have him in there if I didn't think it was straight up all the way.......and thank god his troop has some very conservative adult leaders. A lot more conservative than the national leadership.
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I have one in scouts and you know I wouldn't have him in there if I didn't think it was straight up all the way.......and thank god his troop has some very conservative adult leaders. A lot more conservative than the national leadership.
Don't forget the Girl Scouts, Campfire Girls, Future Farmers of America, there has to be much more groups for kids out there that have been going strong for well over half a century.
The society's for kids that build solid American ideals are our hope for the future.
I am very proud of a family member that had dedicated over 30 years to the Boy Scouts. I guess I should call and tell her this.
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Happy 100th Birthday! Too bad that Obama is not attending. The President is the hononary leader.
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Happy 100th Birthday! Too bad that Obama is not attending. The President is the hononary leader.
Using Obama and any form of the word honor should be forbidden.
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Don't forget the Girl Scouts, Campfire Girls, Future Farmers of America, there has to be much more groups for kids out there that have been going strong for well over half a century.
The society's for kids that build solid American ideals are our hope for the future.
I am very proud of a family member that had dedicated over 30 years to the Boy Scouts. I guess I should call and tell her this.
And they have what to do with the BSA one hundred year anniversary???
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And they have what to do with the BSA one hundred year anniversary???
Every Thing. The BSA was in a way the original prototype for the other groups for children that would need skills later in life that would help them survive.
Remember Mr. Horse, the time in history that this was founded. 1910 a time of great migration to this country. Our new citizens faced some very daunting lives, --No unions, both parents had to work --no labor laws against child labor. Tremendous discrimination against them in any school that would except them that is.
In fighting of the ethnic groups, Why the Irish in New York and Boston had to bully their way into the Police and Fire Departments and after a few short years it would be very difficult to find a Jew, Italian, or black anywhere in either department.
What about the kids of the immigrants, little education, parents seldom anywhere but at work. In came the BSA to save the lives of Millions of boys with training, education, the one glow of hope for all boys at that time.
For the girls who had to for go school to either baby sit their younger siblings while their mothers worked in the factory's 15+ hours a day, they were taught to cook, sew, plant a garden and learn survival skills also.
Most important was that in the BSA and GSA and the Groups to follow them the kids had FUN. They looked forward to learning new skills and very proud of their badges that told the world what they had accomplished in their short lives.
All this was to help when war came as the Boys who had worn uniforms got use to military much faster then those that had never worn one, collected ribbons for achievements. These Young kids all ready knew how to work as a unit for the good of all.
For some person that is President to ignore history and the great achievements of the BSA on a century mark of their founding here in America for any reason but a national emergency is really pitiful.
I hate to say it but had half of California fallen into the Pacific, Obama would have been on a plane to Chicago to congratulate the 2 year anniversary of the Obama Youth Movement.
Yes, I be pissed off.
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Using Obama and any form of the word honor should be forbidden.
Yeah, you're right! :thatsright:
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On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight
Boy Scout promise must have worried him
A Scout is:
•Trustworthy,
•Loyal,
•Helpful,
•Friendly,
•Courteous,
•Kind,
•Obedient,
•Cheerful,
•Thrifty,
•Brave,
•Clean,
•and Reverent
From the promise he is NOTHING like the scouts that is why he was afraid to go
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Looks like they didn't think much of him blowing them off, either...
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAWsy7VV8oE&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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Happy 100th Birthday! Too bad that Obama is not attending. The President is the hononary leader.
Can you believe that sack-o-shit in the White House would fore-go the Boy Scouts for a con-fab with the likes of those racist FUGLY fat pigs Whoopie and Behar?
Me neither...
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Can you believe that sack-o-shit in the White House would fore-go the Boy Scouts for a con-fab with the likes of those racist FUGLY fat pigs Whoopie and Behar?
Me neither...
I know. What's up with that? President Obama acts like a pop star more than a President.
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I know. What's up with that? President Obama acts like a pop star more than a President.
He is the first "American Idol" president.
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He is the first "American Idol" president.
Now now, the people who win American Idol have talent and skill in their chosen field...
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Now now, the people who win American Idol have talent and skill in their chosen field...
That's true for the most part, but they are still selected by mostly morons. IMO
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I know. What's up with that? President Obama acts like a pop star more than a President.
Heres my Hero Boy Scout
http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100808/GJNEWS_01/708089920&template=RochesterRegion
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Heres my Hero Boy Scout
http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100808/GJNEWS_01/708089920&template=RochesterRegion
Outstanding. :II:
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The Sheriff from another county called last week and asked my son to put together and head up the security team for the Order of the Arrow event they had this past weekend. The sheriff furnished my son and his 2 helpers with yellow vests with "Sheriffs Dept" on the back. He was laughing about it when he got home Sunday.
"Shake'n the bush here boss, shake'n the bush."
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My oldest was a scout till he was in 5th grade then he got bit by the baseball bug and it met the same time as scouts so he picked baseball. I wish he had stayed but if he was not going to enjoy it I wasn't going to force him into something he no longer loved
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Heres my Hero Boy Scout
http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100808/GJNEWS_01/708089920&template=RochesterRegion
:bow:
Obama had the chance to meet with thousands of potential heros like this....but he went on The View instead.
What a leader.... :censored:
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I just know I had a GREAT time in the Scouts and enjoyed it all. I made it to Second Class rank.
http://www.usscouts.org/advance/boyscout/bsrank3.asp
I remember some of these requirements but what I don't see here is the 10 more merit badges I had to earn.
Anyway, this is a great organization for teenage boys and the people who hate the BSA and try to undermine them for their own intolerant reasons are not doing teenage boys any favors. Not that they (the haters of the left) really care, of course.
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I just know I had a GREAT time in the Scouts and enjoyed it all. I made it to Second Class rank.
http://www.usscouts.org/advance/boyscout/bsrank3.asp
I remember some of these requirements but what I don't see here is the 10 more merit badges I had to earn.
Anyway, this is a great organization for teenage boys and the people who hate the BSA and try to undermine them for their own intolerant reasons are not doing teenage boys any favors. Not that they (the haters of the left) really care, of course.
For the rank of eagle, 21 merit badges are needed, of that 21, 11 certain ones are required, maybe you has "one" of the required ones and needed "10" more of the required ones for eagle. The 10 others can be of the Scouts choice.
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For the rank of eagle, 21 merit badges are needed, of that 21, 11 certain ones are required, maybe you has "one" of the required ones and needed "10" more of the required ones for eagle. The 10 others can be of the Scouts choice.
I think you need a lot more than 21 to make it to Eagle. Are you sure that's not 21 more to go from Life to Eagle, on top of all the badges that have to be earned to go from First Class to Star, and from Star to Life? I had to earn 5 just to get to Tenderfoot from Scout and then 10 more to get to Second Class. After that comes First Class, Star, Life, and Eagle--never made it to First Class. I'm sure the cumulative total of merit badges you have to earn to get to Eagle is huge.
I did have one of the ones that would eventually have been required for Eagle, at least according to the modern requirements: Cycling. Probably the easiest one of the bunch. But like I said, I never made it as far as First Class, and I do know you can't skip ranks.
This was many years ago, more than I'm going to admit to--maybe things have changed?
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I think you need a lot more than 21 to make it to Eagle. Are you sure that's not 21 more to go from Life to Eagle, on top of all the badges that have to be earned to go from First Class to Star, and from Star to Life? I had to earn 5 just to get to Tenderfoot from Scout and then 10 more to get to Second Class. After that comes First Class, Star, Life, and Eagle--never made it to First Class. I'm sure the cumulative total of merit badges you have to earn to get to Eagle is huge.
I did have one of the ones that would eventually have been required for Eagle, at least according to the modern requirements: Cycling. Probably the easiest one of the bunch. But like I said, I never made it as far as First Class, and I do know you can't skip ranks.
This was many years ago, more than I'm going to admit to--maybe things have changed?
Here (http://www.usscouts.org/advance/boyscout/bsrank7.asp) is the Eagle requirements from the Boy Scout's own website. It says specifically : "a TOTAL of 21 merit badges", not 21 more than they had at the awarding of their Life Scout rank. That also jibes with what I recall form my own days as a scout, lo these 20 years or so ago.
:cheers1:
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I miss being in the Scouts. Made it all the way to Life (from Tiger) and just needed 2 merit badges and my service project to make Eagle. In my time I held positions of Asst. Patrol Leader, Patrol Leader and Asst. Senior Patrol Leader. Staffed summer camps at Camp Constantine and winter camp at Camp Cherokee here in Texas. Was a member of Order of the Arrow in Mikanakawa Lodge 101 here in Dallas. My first year in OA (1998) I won the Asa Leger award for most dedicated new member. Made brotherhood quickly and was appointed Ordeal Lead in the lodge and was my chapter's Asst. Vice Chief of Service.
Once I hit about 17, I ended up going full time into Sea Scouts, where I was a crew leader and ship bos'n. Never finished up Eagle or went for Vigil. You want to talk about regret... I do still know many of the leaders from OA and if I was to go back into Scouts as an adult leader, I could still go for Vigil.
And I still have a good portion of my patch collection too.
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I think you need a lot more than 21 to make it to Eagle. Are you sure that's not 21 more to go from Life to Eagle, on top of all the badges that have to be earned to go from First Class to Star, and from Star to Life? I had to earn 5 just to get to Tenderfoot from Scout and then 10 more to get to Second Class. After that comes First Class, Star, Life, and Eagle--never made it to First Class. I'm sure the cumulative total of merit badges you have to earn to get to Eagle is huge.
I did have one of the ones that would eventually have been required for Eagle, at least according to the modern requirements: Cycling. Probably the easiest one of the bunch. But like I said, I never made it as far as First Class, and I do know you can't skip ranks.
This was many years ago, more than I'm going to admit to--maybe things have changed?
I made Eagle Scout in Sept. 1970, one month before my 14th birthday. They've changed the merit badge requirements since my day -- going on memory here, but as I recall 11 of 21 were required -- Swimming, Nature, Conservation of Natural Resources, Citizenship in the Community, Citizenship in the Nation, Camping, Cooking, First Aid, Safety, Personal Fitness, and the big one -- a real showstopper for a lot of Scouts in my day -- Lifesaving. I remember my Lifesaving course -- out of 15 people taking it, 10 failed it. It was a real bitch.
I wound up with 26, qualifying for a bronze palm.
They've changed a few of the required badges and gave options where previously there were no options. Lifesaving OR Emergency Preparedness (WTF is THAT?); Personal Management; Environmental Science; Family Life (yeah, all about the birds 'n bees); and Communications replacing Cooking, Safety, Conservation of Natural Resources, and Nature.
I failed my first board of review because my service project, which I'd already completed, wasn't approved. Nobody bothered to tell me that somebody had to approve the damned thing. So I had to do another one.
Meh. It didn't kill me. :-)
On a more shitty note, all my Scout stuff was "inherited" by the State of Michigan when my Dad died. No idea where that stuff went and no chance to get it since the State wound up with the house.
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I miss being in the Scouts. Made it all the way to Life (from Tiger) and just needed 2 merit badges and my service project to make Eagle. In my time I held positions of Asst. Patrol Leader, Patrol Leader and Asst. Senior Patrol Leader. Staffed summer camps at Camp Constantine and winter camp at Camp Cherokee here in Texas. Was a member of Order of the Arrow in Mikanakawa Lodge 101 here in Dallas. My first year in OA (1998) I won the Asa Leger award for most dedicated new member. Made brotherhood quickly and was appointed Ordeal Lead in the lodge and was my chapter's Asst. Vice Chief of Service.
Once I hit about 17, I ended up going full time into Sea Scouts, where I was a crew leader and ship bos'n. Never finished up Eagle or went for Vigil. You want to talk about regret... I do still know many of the leaders from OA and if I was to go back into Scouts as an adult leader, I could still go for Vigil.
And I still have a good portion of my patch collection too.
Your story is very similar to my boyfriends, but like, 10 years earlier. He didn't finish to Eagle because he got tired of babysitting the young-uns. And, yeah, he regrets it too.
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Here (http://www.usscouts.org/advance/boyscout/bsrank7.asp) is the Eagle requirements from the Boy Scout's own website. It says specifically : "a TOTAL of 21 merit badges", not 21 more than they had at the awarding of their Life Scout rank. That also jibes with what I recall form my own days as a scout, lo these 20 years or so ago.
:cheers1:
Jeeze, I think my troop leader was imposing his own special rules, then. Good grief.