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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: bijou on July 14, 2010, 09:15:42 AM
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Bristol Palin and Levi Johnston reveal exclusively in the new Us Weekly that they are getting married.
And, they tell Us Weekly, former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin has been kept in the dark about their plans ... until now.
"We got engaged two weeks ago," Bristol, 19, tells Us Weekly. "It felt right, even though we don’t have the approval of our parents." ...
http://www.usmagazine.com/healthylifestyle/news/exclusive-bristol-palin-levi-johnston-are-engaged-2010147
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$20 bucks says it last less than a year.
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$20 bucks says it last less than a year.
If we're forming the betting pool now, I'll put my $20 down on "Less than 6 months" for when this falls apart, and "That asshole Levi caught screwin' around' " as the reason it falls apart.
It's not his fault particularly; when a dog pisses on a fire hydrant it's not making any particular kind of statement, it's just being a dog.
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She really ought to know better than that by now.
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Looks like 'ol Levi is getting more than the 15 minutes we all initially though. He deserves less than 5... :banghead:
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Oh to be a fly on the wall of the Palin household today. I'm betting Sarah and Todd are absolutely PISSED.
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Oh to be a fly on the wall of the Palin household today. I'm betting Sarah and Todd are absolutely PISSED.
"You've made your own bed, now lie in it."....that could be cold in Alaska.
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Oh to be a fly on the wall of the Palin household today. I'm betting Sarah and Todd are absolutely PISSED.
I cannot begin to imagine the rage. I mean first, to marry that pud. But second, to announce it to the whole world, before telling your parents? Oh My!
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I cannot begin to imagine the rage. I mean first, to marry that pud. But second, to announce it to the whole world, before telling your parents? Oh My!
Did you think that "PUD" as you called him would have the back bone to walk in and say, "Mr. Palin, I would like to take the hand of your daughter in marriage." ...or something remotely similar...like..."Hey dude, now that it's to late and the damage is done I want to legally bonk your offspring."
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The girl is hung up on the idea that her child's father needs to be a real part of the equation -- not a weekend daddy who is met with cold, stony silence every time he darkens the door.
I will NOT take that bet.
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Did you think that "PUD" as you called him would have the back bone to walk in and say, "Mr. Palin, I would like to take the hand of your daughter in marriage." ...or something remotely similar...like..."Hey dude, now that it's to late and the damage is done I want to legally bonk your offspring."
Uh No. I think that pud has absolutely NO back bone whatsoever. What a nightmare of a situation.
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Someone on FR posted something as a reply to me that strikes me as EXACTLY what a limp-dick loser like Levi would try--that being to marry her so he can stop paying child support, which was based on a one-time income windfall. He marries her, sits on his ass for a while, divorces her, and SHE ends up paying HIM because she'd be the one with better financial resources.
Don't think he'd be the first one to try that shit.
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Someone on FR posted something as a reply to me that strikes me as EXACTLY what a limp-dick loser like Levi would try--that being to marry her so he can stop paying child support, which was based on a one-time income windfall. He marries her, sits on his ass for a while, divorces her, and SHE ends up paying HIM because she'd be the one with better financial resources.
Don't think he'd be the first one to try that shit.
Makes a ton of sense. Since he's no longer a porn star, what better way to continue sponging off of people than to manipulate somebody's emotions?
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I heard about this earlier today, and of course the "talk shows" have been all over it....
However...this is how I'm looking at it.
Here's a girl who is 19 with a child almost 2 years old. She's living away from her parents home, I can't remember from when I saw Bristol interviewed the last time if she said it was just her and the baby or she has a roommate. Either way...it has to be tough. Plus...no matter how one looks at it....she's a 19yo unwed mother who was obviously pregnant around 17. She might as well be wearing a sign around her neck that says "YOUNG AND DUMB".
There is still a stigma attached to young unwed mothers....one that is not attached to career women in their 30's or 40's who decide to either have a child themselves or adopt a child. For an "older" career woman...who can AFFORD to support not only herself, but a child, without anyone else's help...who has a child, she is seen as either smart for going ahead and having a child before her biological clock stops or very lucky/noble to be able to adopt a child. No matter what the circumstances...an older woman does not have the stigma attached to her that a young high school girl does.
Top the stigma off, with suddenly being thrown into the world spotlight because your mother is nominated to be a candidate for Vice President of the United States! This poor girl...and I mean that seriously...has been put under a microscope for the last 2+ years! While Bristol should have been the typical high school girl who came home and told her parents she was pregnant....and the family be allowed time to make decisions as to how to deal with the pregnancy, their child and her future, the baby's father and his family, finishing high school, finances, etc....the entire situation was done through the bird's eye view by the entire country, if not all over the world (I don't know how much of this was made in other countries). I cannot imagine this child...because 17 or not, Bristol was still a child - if to no one else but her parents.....I cannot imagine how difficult it was for her to deal with just being pregnant...let alone doing it under a spotlight. I wonder just how well any of us would have done.
Add in the wonderful ::) Levi...who doesn't seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer under any circumstances. From what I remember, his family has multiple issues. Maybe he wanted to be part of the Palin family just to have a family ....one who appears to be from all we have seen over the last couple of years...pretty close to defining the word "family". That is a powerful draw to a child who doesn't have a similar one of his own. But this would have been in the beginning of the relationship.
Again, just as the whole Sarah for VP candidate circus affected Bristol...it surely did Levi. Bristol was pregnant and he too was thrust into the national spotlight. As "cute" as he was, I would not be surprised to learn that he had "suggestive offers" in fan mail from all over the place. Pretty heady ( :uhsure: ) stuff for a kid from the hinterlands of Alaska. Whereas Bristol might have been "the" girl in their town...suddenly a whole new world opens up to this kid. And to one without much of a moral compass...it would have been like a kid in a Willy Wonka Chocolate Factory.
I am not surprised that Levi walked the first time. Maybe he wouldn't have been a presence at all, if Sarah hadn't gotten the "nod". Maybe he only stayed because she did...and then walked when it was over. To go and "discover" all those possibilities that were open to his "studly" self that had never have happened if it weren't for Sarah Palin's nomination.
To me....where Levi really screwed the pooch...was when he started shooting off his mouth looking for every bit of 30 minutes of fame after he found he liked the first 15. He is attractive and he used that AND his so-called knowledge of the Palin family. We all know how people were willing to pay big bucks for any dirt on the Palin family. To a kid...without much of a moral upbringing ....he did just what a lot of other similar kids have done over the years...looked to make a buck however he could whether it was honorable or not. I'm not in any way excusing his behavior...there is no excuse...but giving a possible explanation for it.
Skip ahead to the present.
Sarah's making a ton of money.
Bristol is still looking good.
Baby is growing up.
Mmmmm....maybe getting back with Bristol isn't such a bad deal, and looking pretty good to him. He knows darn well that her family will never, ever abandon her or the baby....and he probably craves that connection....even though he's done everything he could to destroy it, and not having found the "fame" he thought he would.
To Bristol...he's still the father of her baby. Marrying him would legitimize her...not the baby, because Levi claimed him...but it would make Bristol a married momma....and take away the YOUNG and DUMB sign around her neck. In her mind, it would validate her, and announce to people that he still wants her....and naively think that she would no longer be referred to as Sarah's "unwed mother" daughter...which the media does every single time that girl is mentioned.
Sadly, taking him back after all he has said about her and her family...still makes her YOUNG and DUMB. It is doubtful that this relationship will last for long and rather than have people sympathize/empathize with her, they won't, simply because she should have known better than to take him back. Bless her heart, she will just end up with that sign saying..."DUMB AND DUMBER".
It is obvious, from the way they have announced the engagement, that Bristol knew her parents would never go along with her choice. And I would venture, the US magazine paid a pretty penny for the "scoop". More money into slimey Levi's hands.
I hope for Bristol's sake and her baby's....that she wakes up before a wedding happens and realize that she's being "played" yet again, and calls it off. I find it very ....umm what's the word? coincidental....that this is happening just as it's looking like Sarah may be going to make a run for President.
I hope that Bristol's family does some sort of intervention and prevent this wedding from taking place....and they find out just who is paying Levi to weasel his way back into the "fold".
Way to much analyzing I know.... :-)
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I hope no marriage happens, but if it does, I sure as hell hope there is a pheonemal Pre-nup.
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I hope no marriage happens, but if it does, I sure as hell hope there is a pheonemal Pre-nup.
Oh it's gonna happen, we're just discussing how long the fuse is.
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Sadly, taking him back after all he has said about her and her family...still makes her YOUNG and DUMB. It is doubtful that this relationship will last for long and rather than have people sympathize/empathize with her, they won't, simply because she should have known better than to take him back. Bless her heart, she will just end up with that sign saying..."DUMB AND DUMBER".
It is obvious, from the way they have announced the engagement, that Bristol knew her parents would never go along with her choice.
My thoughts exactly. He's shown his true (lack of) character.
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I hope no marriage happens, but if it does, I sure as hell hope there is a pheonemal Pre-nup.
I think Todd's 12ga. needs to be cleaned again. And again. :therock:
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Way to much analyzing I know.... :-)
Yep. :tongue:
Two parents is not always better, one-size-fits-all-answer adherents notwithstanding. When the father is a scumbag loser POS, it's better for him to be out of the picture entirely than present and ruining the kid's image of appropriate male behavior on an hourly basis.
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I hope no marriage happens, but if it does, I sure as hell hope there is a pheonemal Pre-nup.
If a marriage happens, it will be bad for Palin's career... Especially if it ends in divorce.
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I hope no marriage happens, but if it does, I sure as hell hope there is a pheonemal Pre-nup.
uh. That would be phenomenal. My bad.
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Yep. :tongue:
Two parents is not always better, one-size-fits-all-answer adherents notwithstanding. When the father is a scumbag loser POS, it's better for him to be out of the picture entirely than present and ruining the kid's image of appropriate male behavior on an hourly basis.
I totally agree.
I think it would be better for this kid, if Levi was never around him!
However, I also think Bristol has stars in her eyes and wearing rose-colored glasses that they will get married and live happily ever after, just like her momma and daddy. Which anybody with a brain, knows won't happen with that guy. But she's thinking it will make everything "right" in her world.
I still go with my previous statement....who's behind Levi getting the sudden urge for home, hearth and marriage?
Somehow...I don't for a minute believe it was his idea....
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I still go with my previous statement....who's behind Levi getting the sudden urge for home, hearth and marriage?
Sometimes a fellow says the damnest things to get in a girls pants......and then worries about the consequences later.
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I still go with my previous statement....who's behind Levi getting the sudden urge for home, hearth and marriage?
Somehow...I don't for a minute believe it was his idea....
I was going to ask the same question, but figured it was just a bit over the top on the tinfoil hat meter.... :-)
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Two parents is not always better, one-size-fits-all-answer adherents notwithstanding. When the father is a scumbag loser POS, it's better for him to be out of the picture entirely than present and ruining the kid's image of appropriate male behavior on an hourly basis.
The evidence really suggests otherwise. For a single woman who gets pregnant, the best answer is putting the baby up for adoption. Go read the chapter titled "Victim of a Crime? Thank a single mother" in Ann Coulter's Guilty for an indepth look at the statistics about single motherdom.
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Sometimes a fellow says the damnest things to get in a girls pants......and then worries about the consequences later.
True...but I don't think so in this case.
Putting it crudely....he's already been in Bristol's pants and walked away. And I don't for a minute think he's been going without all these months travelling about the countryside.
If sex was all he wanted....he's probably getting it wherever and whenever he wants.
He's what 19? a recent 20 at most? Not many guys at that age...who didn't plan it, and have already had the luxury of no responsibility after the birth,.....are going to jump up and down with joy ( :whatever: ) and walk back into the fire that they have already escaped from with little to no injury, unless there is SOMETHING in it for them.
I don't think regular sex with Bristol, or a burning desire to be an "in-place" father to his son, has brought him back. Especially when there are too too many people out there who are willing to bring Sarah Palin down however they possibly can.
I've seen this kid interviewed on tv, in several different venues, and he's out for himself....no one else. He doesn't have an altruistic bone in his body....
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The evidence really suggests otherwise. For a single woman who gets pregnant, the best answer is putting the baby up for adoption. Go read the chapter titled "Victim of a Crime? Thank a single mother" in Ann Coulter's Guilty for an indepth look at the statistics about single motherdom.
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That's a blanket statement that all single mothers' children end up criminal. ::)
I like Ann Coulter...but to assume that any child raised by a single mother will end up a criminal is absurd.
There are a whole bunch of criminals that were raised in a two-parent home and still became twisted. The Columbine killers both were.
I will just point out....your children are very young, so I will assume that you are too...which means you have a lot of years until your children reach 18. Should you ever get divorced from their father....your children will also be the children of a "single mother". Does that mean your children should be taken away from you and "put up for adoption"?
Which is just as absurd as saying that single mothers should put their babies up for adoption, because "that's what's best for them".
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That's a blanket statement that all single mothers' children end up criminal. ::)
I like Ann Coulter...but to assume that any child raised by a single mother will end up a criminal is absurd.
There are a whole bunch of criminals that were raised in a two-parent home and still became twisted. The Columbine killers both were.
I will just point out....your children are very young, so I will assume that you are too...which means you have a lot of years until your children reach 18. Should you ever get divorced from their father....your children will also be the children of a "single mother". Does that mean your children should be taken away from you and "put up for adoption"?
Which is just as absurd as saying that single mothers should put their babies up for adoption, because "that's what's best for them".
There is something else to consider also. Bristol has the support of her own family. Many of the single mothers that Ann Coulter talked about were on their own. Extended family can make a world of difference to the children of a single mom.
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Actually, the statistics are about single mothers. Not divorced mothers. And not widowed mothers. Just mothers who didn't bother getting married before getting pregnant/having children.
Here's an excerpt from that chapter:
"Here is the lottery ticket that single mothers are handing their innocent children by choosing to raise them without fathers: Controlling for socioeconomic status, race, and place of residence, the strongest predictor of whether a person will end up in prison is that he was raised by a single parent. By 1996, 70% of inmates in state juvenile detention centers serving long-term sentences were raised by single mothers. 72% of juvenile murders, and 60% of rapist come from single-mother homes. 70% of teenage births, dropouts, suicides, runaways, juvenile delinquents, and child murderers involved children raised by single mothers. Girls raised without fathers are more sexually promiscuous and more likely to end up divorced. A 1990 study by the Progressive Policy Institute showed that after controlling for single motherhood, the difference between black and white crime rates disappeared.....According to the Index of Leading Cultural Indicators, children from single-parent families account for 63% of all youth suicides, 70% of all teenage pregnancies, 71% of all adolescent chemical/substance abuse, 80% of all prison inmates, and 90% of all homeless and runaway children. "
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There is something else to consider also. Bristol has the support of her own family. Many of the single mothers that Ann Coulter talked about were on their own. Extended family can make a world of difference to the children of a single mom.
Exactly.
Just as the amount of education the mother has, and her financial ability to raise a child/children, has an extreme influence on the child's circumstances.
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Actually, the statistics are about single mothers. Not divorced mothers. And not widowed mothers. Just mothers who didn't bother getting married before getting pregnant/having children.
Here's an excerpt from that chapter:
"Here is the lottery ticket that single mothers are handing their innocent children by choosing to raise them without fathers: Controlling for socioeconomic status, race, and place of residence, the strongest predictor of whether a person will end up in prison is that he was raised by a single parent. By 1996, 70% of inmates in state juvenile detention centers serving long-term sentences were raised by single mothers. 72% of juvenile murders, and 60% of rapist come from single-mother homes. 70% of teenage births, dropouts, suicides, runaways, juvenile delinquents, and child murderers involved children raised by single mothers. Girls raised without fathers are more sexually promiscuous and more likely to end up divorced. A 1990 study by the Progressive Policy Institute showed that after controlling for single motherhood, the difference between black and white crime rates disappeared.....According to the Index of Leading Cultural Indicators, children from single-parent families account for 63% of all youth suicides, 70% of all teenage pregnancies, 71% of all adolescent chemical/substance abuse, 80% of all prison inmates, and 90% of all homeless and runaway children. "
Progressive Policy Institute...
Progressive Policy Institute
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Progressive Policy Institute
Abbreviation PPI
Formation 1989
Type Public policy think tank
Headquarters 1730 Rhode Island Avenue NW, Suite 308
Location Washington, D.C.
President and CEO Will Marshall
Website http://www.ppionline.org
The Progressive Policy Institute (PPI) is a think tank in the United States, founded in 1989 and affiliated with the Democratic Leadership Council, which styles itself as promoting the ideas of "New Democrats." It covers a very wide range of issues and describes itself as centrist, although progressive critics frequently describe it as conservative, neoconservative, or neoliberal. Its current president is Will Marshall, who writes frequently on foreign policy, defense, national service, globalization and trade policy, and cultural issues. Notable affiliated scholars include Fred Siegel (cultural issues), Paul Weinstein (economics and fiscal policies), Robert J. Shapiro (economics and securities law), Jan Mazurek (energy and environmental protection), Edward Gresser (trade), David Kendall (health care), Michele Stockwell (education and social issues).
Single parent families are at a higher risk of poverty than couple families, and on average single mothers have poorer health than couple mothers.[14] Millar, Jane and Ridge, Tess (2001)"Families, Poverty, Work and Care: A review of literature on lone parents and low income couple families" (DWP Research Report No.153)
Single parenting is strongly associated with an increased risk of a number of negative social, behavioral and emotional outcomes for children. However while the association is strong, on balance the effect size and the actual numbers affected are modest. Most children from single parent families do well. Many factors influence how children develop in single-parent families: the parent's age, education level, and occupation; the family's income, and the family's support network of friends and extended family members (including the non-resident parent, if available). Disadvantages in these factors that often accompany single parenting appear to cause most of this association rather than single parenting itself.[15][16] Rickard, Maurice "Children of Lesbian and Single Women Parents" Research Note no. 41 2001-02, Social Policy Group, Parliament of Australia (accessed February 18, 2008)
^ a b Mackay, Ross (2005) "The impact of family structure and family change on child outcomes: a personal reading of the research literature" Social Policy Journal of New Zealand (accessed February 18, 2008)
Shocking headlines do get published; for example a 2003 Swedish study, stated that those living with a single parent were about three times more likely to kill themselves or end up in the hospital after an attempted suicide by the age of 26 than children living with two parents, however this only happened to 2.2 percent of girls and 1 percent of boys.[17] The Lancet, January 25, paraphrased by CBS News' Emma Ross, "Single-Parent Kids More At Risk
A variety of viewpoints do exist, with different readings of the research possible. The Institute for the Study of Civil Society reports that children of single parents, after controlling for other variables like family income, are more likely to have problems.[18] Experiments in Living: The Fatherless Family There are impacts of sole parenting on children, however the weight of the evidence it is suggested, do not appear to support a view that sole parents are a major cause of societal ills and are doing irreparable damage to their children.[16]. Mackay, Ross (2005) "The impact of family structure and family change on child outcomes: a personal reading of the research literature" Social Policy Journal of New Zealand (accessed February 18, 2008)
Thousands upon thousands of studies are done on just about any subject.
Those conducting a specific study may use specific "controls" to achieve the desired outcome.
Those wishing to cite a specific outcome, may use specific study data in order to support their position.
While it is true, that is more likely that a criminal was raised in a single parent situation.....the percentages, that Ann Coulter cited, were determined from statistics on criminals , NOT on children who were raised by a single parent.
Vast difference.
Just for the record...a single parent is defined by their status as being the sole parent who does the majority of raisng the child/children without the benefit of spousal support in the home. It is not defined by whether or not the mother had the child without benefit of marriage, has become divorced, widowed or abandoned, or chose to do a single parent adoption.
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Yeah this is looking to be another page filler for the National Enquirer
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While it is true, that is more likely that a criminal was raised in a single parent situation.....the percentages, that Ann Coulter cited, were determined from statistics on criminals , NOT on children who were raised by a single parent.
Vast difference.
Just for the record...a single parent is defined by their status as being the sole parent who does the majority of raisng the child/children without the benefit of spousal support in the home. It is not defined by whether or not the mother had the child without benefit of marriage, has become divorced, widowed or abandoned, or chose to do a single parent adoption.
Perhaps I didn't word it right. The stats Ann used for the book refer to women who never were married and got pregnant. The statistics are not referring to divorcees or widows. .
On to the second point, here are some more statistics, about children of single parent households in general (instead of only looking at the criminal population and drawing conclusions)
Children from single parent homes are 5 times more likely to commit suicide, 9 times more likely to drop out of high school, 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances, 14 times more likely to commit rape (boys that is), 20 times more likely to end up in prison, and 32 times more likely to run away from home. Kids from single parent homes are also 6 times as likely to be in poverty as kids from 2 parent households.
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I wonder how much behind the scenes Todd was in this situation? I have seen this scenario in other families with women who get pregnant, bf doesn't commit for awhile, but after DAD has his talk first with his daughter, then one with her bf, such a result happens. I'm willing to bet that Todd had much to do with Levi's turnaround and decision, and that this had nothing to do with politics. Well, I KNOW it didn't have a damn thing about it, but knowing Todd, the riot act got read, even if it was just inferred.
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True...but I don't think so in this case.
Putting it crudely....he's already been in Bristol's pants and walked away. And I don't for a minute think he's been going without all these months travelling about the countryside.
If sex was all he wanted....he's probably getting it wherever and whenever he wants.
He's what 19? a recent 20 at most? Not many guys at that age...who didn't plan it, and have already had the luxury of no responsibility after the birth,.....are going to jump up and down with joy ( :whatever: ) and walk back into the fire that they have already escaped from with little to no injury, unless there is SOMETHING in it for them.
I don't think regular sex with Bristol, or a burning desire to be an "in-place" father to his son, has brought him back. Especially when there are too too many people out there who are willing to bring Sarah Palin down however they possibly can.
I've seen this kid interviewed on tv, in several different venues, and he's out for himself....no one else. He doesn't have an altruistic bone in his body....
You wouldn't suppose he is being "secretly" paid under the table to marry Bristol then cause a BIG public embarASSment & outrage by leaving her in the middle of Sarah's 2012 presidential campaign - do you?
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EXACTLY, he is a paid spy there to get and dish plausable "dirt" on Sarah. Hw has already proved he has no loyalty or honesty in him. He has changed now because?????? HE'S DESPICABLE TRASH.
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The evidence really suggests otherwise. For a single woman who gets pregnant, the best answer is putting the baby up for adoption. Go read the chapter titled "Victim of a Crime? Thank a single mother" in Ann Coulter's Guilty for an indepth look at the statistics about single motherdom.
Anecdotes are her specialty, not evidence. I enjoy her baiting of the Left and find her an entertaining writer, but taking her as a valid source for anything substantive is naive in the extreme.
Hitler came from a home with two parents, and couldn't possibly have turned out as bad as he did if his abusive father had croaked when he was an infant. How many convenience store robbers does it take to equal one Hitler? With real humans instead of Sims, there is no such thing as one mold that everyone has to fit, or one model that everyone must fit.
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You wouldn't suppose he is being "secretly" paid under the table to marry Bristol then cause a BIG public embarASSment & outrage by leaving her in the middle of Sarah's 2012 presidential campaign - do you?
That was my first thought regarding him....
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Anecdotes are her specialty, not evidence. I enjoy her baiting of the Left and find her an entertaining writer, but taking her as a valid source for anything substantive is naive in the extreme.
Hitler came from a home with two parents, and couldn't possibly have turned out as bad as he did if his abusive father had croaked when he was an infant. How many convenience store robbers does it take to equal one Hitler? With real humans instead of Sims, there is no such thing as one mold that everyone has to fit, or one model that everyone must fit.
Anecdotes are what you are providing. I provided statistics. The two are quite different.
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Anecdotes are what you are providing. I provided statistics. The two are quite different.
If you'll think back, what I originally posted was to the effect that having both parents in the home is not always the best idea, i.e. life is not one-answer-for-everyone situation. That's actually an inherently-anecdotal situation since all individual decisions are, ultimately, anecdotal data points at best to a statistician, and the discussion was about a particular individual situation.
Indeed anecdotal information is not useless, in fact statistical information by itself is at least equally subject to abuse. The lack of valuation in the normal application of statistical results (As in the Hitler analogy) is just one of the flaws with it as a tool. But, apparently my off-hand comment concerning the naivete of taking an advocate like Ann Coulter as gospel threw you off the main point.
To me it seems your underlying argument is the idea that all choices should be ruled by statistical trends, and there is in fact only one right answer which should be demanded in every case. I disagree, as do many others here, and I am obviously not the only one who has taken your argument that way.
Well, let's examine the soundness of that idea with an example from a different subject. Did you know that statistically (At a certain level of analysis, which an advocate is of course free to cherrypick) the evidence is that you voted for Obama? He did get a majority of the vote, so despite your handle, 'The evidence really suggests otherwise.' Perhaps that will illustrate the grave limitations of statistics in predicting individual outcomes.
Statistics are macro-level information. While they are of some utility, depending on their weight and quality, they aren't decisive predictors in micro-level decisions. This whole thread is about one micro-level, individual decision. I stand by my original point.
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We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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He is looking to get more than his 5 minutes of fame I guess