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Title: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: franksolich on July 10, 2010, 10:57:58 AM
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Oh my.

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handmade34  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jul-10-10 12:39 AM
Original message

a quick fact about toilet paper...

"If every household in the United States replaced just one roll of virgin fiber toilet paper (500 sheets) with 100% recycled ones, we could save 423,900 trees" (and tissues, paper towels, napkins, etc.)

Giant paper producers are forcing the destruction of our continent's most vibrant forests, and devastating the habitat for countless wildlife species in the process. Instead of making better use of materials such as post-consumer recycled fiber and agricultural residue to meet the escalating demand for toilet paper, paper towels and other disposable tissue products, these companies buy virgin pulp from suppliers that reach deep into North American forests for timber, from northern Canada to the southeastern United States. To help halt this destruction, NRDC and other conservation groups are pressuring the tissue products industry to change its practices and educating consumers about the choices they have when buying tissue paper products.

http://www.nrdc.org/land/forests/gtissue.asp

Okay, okay, we all know what the primitives really do.

The primitives are the ones we see in grocery-store and Wal-Mart check-out lines, their carts overflowing with super-sized packages of triple-ply super-soft lotioned scented bathroom tissue, and paying for them with their EBT (or whatever they're called) cards.

And given their neuroses, primitives use more of the stuff than do decent and civilized people.

Anyway.

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MrScorpio  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jul-10-10 12:44 AM
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1. Bidets! 

More bidets to save the trees!

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msongs  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jul-10-10 12:48 AM
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3. ooops, more water waste

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MrScorpio  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jul-10-10 12:56 AM
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5. Waste water can be processed 

That's makes it better than trees

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jobycom  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jul-10-10 03:47 AM
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27. Meh. My cats already have a water bowl.

Just go when you are about to take a shower.

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moriah  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jul-10-10 06:12 AM
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31. Ewww, poop in the shower?

GROSS! At least with a bidet the water contaminated by ass doesn't get on any other part of your body....

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WVRICK13 (695 posts)      Sat Jul-10-10 06:33 AM
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32. No, Don't Poop in the shower. Just thin about it. Toilet paper only smears the poop around on your bottom, then you wear it all day. I use a bidet and feel much cleaner.

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Lifelong Protester  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jul-10-10 12:57 AM
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7. Um, reusable toilet wipes??

I'll buy tissue from recycled sources (I use some 7th Generation stuff too, like Iris) but reusable toilet wipes might be where I draw the line....

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jberryhill  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jul-10-10 01:03 AM
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10. Just hold it until you are at someone else's house
 
...and use the hand towels.

That's what I do.

If that were actually true, which it might or might not be, it wouldn't surprise franksolich.

Primitives after all are rather crude.

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tblue  (1000+ posts)       Sat Jul-10-10 01:59 AM
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20. LOL!

Or the rug.

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jberryhill  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jul-10-10 02:10 AM
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22. The rug is awesome! You can flip it upside down!
 
But, if you hang the towels right, especially guest towels, they won't know until you are long gone.

Sometimes I go back and check, and days later the towels are still hanging that way.

People should really wash those hand towels.

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Deep13  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jul-10-10 01:14 AM
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13. I'm all for recycled ass wipe.

But bidets are simply a more civilized solution.

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DemoTex  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jul-10-10 01:40 AM
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16. I use 100% recycled toilet paper here at the lookout. 

I buy it myself. The USFS does supply 1-ply toilet paper that we call "John Wayne" wipes: it is rough, it is tough, and it don't take no shit off anybody!

Since there is no running water here, a bidet is out of the question. I won't even get into how I deal with hygiene issues like that. But suffice to say that you do what you have to do.

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era veteran  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jul-10-10 05:43 AM
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29. Attached to the British Army in the '70's,( Queens Own Highlanders) found that they used this wax TP, 3 sheets, that did not really work. After eating in their mess for a while I needed a better product.

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conscious evolution  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jul-10-10 07:28 AM
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35. Three sheets

My dad told me that when he was fighting in the phillipines in WW2 they were rationed three sheets per day.

One to wipe up.
One to wipe down
And one to polish.

Needless to say,in a war zone where most of the troops had dysentary or other such gastro problems three sheets didn't quite cut the mustard.

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Taitertots (1000+ posts)      Sat Jul-10-10 09:26 AM
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43. I poop directly into a diaper genie

And wipe with my hand and a little water. 100% environmental, 85% disgusting.

Oh, and my diaper genie uses biodegradable bags so I can bury them deep in my backyard.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: Celtic Rose on July 10, 2010, 11:03:03 AM
I really hope that some of those people are joking...

I like soft toilet paper.  I've tried the recycled stuff, and it is not soft.  Maybe if they tried to improve their quality it would sell better  :uhsure:
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: delilahmused on July 10, 2010, 12:18:42 PM
Charmin is all I buy.

Cindie
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: Vagabond on July 10, 2010, 12:43:33 PM
Bidets are disgusting.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: Ballygrl on July 10, 2010, 12:51:41 PM
After reading at the DU for so long now? it's sad that I really don't know if these people are serious or not.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: Randy on July 10, 2010, 01:02:29 PM
Charmin is all I buy.

Cindie

To soft for me.

BTW, not to get into a TP war, I love the new Angel Soft commercial.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: Chris_ on July 10, 2010, 02:08:58 PM
I thought the tissue companies had jumped on the recycling bandwagon a decade ago.  I don't know of anyone selling "100% virgin fiber" TP, but I admit I don't look at the packages.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: franksolich on July 10, 2010, 02:13:33 PM
.....but I admit I don't look at the packages.

Same here; all I look for is the miles of paper in a package.

$1 packages of 4 rolls by the way are the worst buy when it comes to miles per package.

If there's nothing in particular on sale of the item, I just buy Angel Soft.

By the way, this lotioned and scented stuff is pretty powerful; when standing close to a person, franksolich's nostrils can pick up the aroma, which means franksolich knows what that person just got done doing.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: PatriotGame on July 10, 2010, 02:17:59 PM
Well now, that thread is a bunch of shit.

DUmmys advocate the destruction of the wood products industry BUTT (supposedly) continue to use toilet paper and live in wood homes. It's like the DUmmys that drive a Prius and 'think' they are saving the environment by doing so.

Stupid really *IS* like stupid does...
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: PatriotGame on July 10, 2010, 02:22:36 PM
I really hope that some of those people are joking...

I like soft toilet paper.  I've tried the recycled stuff, and it is not soft.  Maybe if they tried to improve their quality it would sell better  :uhsure:
Costco toilet paper - 10 bucks for 24 rolls and Costco industrial sized baby-wipes to polish.

Yes, my life is just that simple...
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: Ballygrl on July 10, 2010, 02:28:39 PM
Costco toilet paper - 10 bucks for 24 rolls and Costco industrial sized baby-wipes to polish.

Yes, my life is just that simple...

BJ's-30 rolls 1,000 sheets of Executive Choice-$16.99. BTW, I don't think the Baby Wipes are flushable, are they? I buy the flushable 1's in the grocery store.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: PatriotGame on July 10, 2010, 02:49:20 PM
BJ's-30 rolls 1,000 sheets of Executive Choice-$16.99. BTW, I don't think the Baby Wipes are flushable, are they? I buy the flushable 1's in the grocery store.
Oh yes - they are flushable...depending on my burrito consumption factor, two or more will be swept away by the swirling H2O...
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 10, 2010, 03:46:20 PM
The DUmmies are just getting everyone ready to become Muslims....using your left hand and a water bottle.

I guess you could call that a poor mans portable BEE-day.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 10, 2010, 04:11:08 PM
Screw that bidet BS, even if replacing one roll of paper per household (a year?  a month?  a week?) actually worked out that way, on which I have huge reservations and bearing in mind we're talking pulp pine that is essentially more like giant weeds than frickin' giant redwoods, how many damn mountains would have to be leveled to get the clay, glaze, brass, and chrome to put one of them in each household???  That's some crazy talk, plus leaving the bathroom with a wet ass is not my idea of a hygeinic experience.

Parenthetically I'd have to say the most amazing TP I've ever encountered was the stuff the Deutsche Bundesbahn put in the third class cars they gave us for the head end of troop trains in the late 70s (Two coaches followed by about 25-30 flatcars loaded with armored vehicles).  I swear the stuff had been turned directly from logs on a veneer lathe, no pulping involved.   
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: Ballygrl on July 10, 2010, 04:13:01 PM
Oh yes - they are flushable...depending on my burrito consumption factor, two or more will be swept away by the swirling H2O...

:lmao:

OK, but do the instructions say flushable?
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: Tucker on July 10, 2010, 05:39:48 PM
Frank. I respect you and hold you in the highest esteem but that avatar needs a warning. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/emoticons/shocked1.gif)
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: soleil on July 10, 2010, 05:47:38 PM
I buy nothing but Charmin. Red package.
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Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 10, 2010, 06:09:06 PM
Frank. I respect you and hold you in the highest esteem but that avatar needs a warning. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/emoticons/shocked1.gif)

Now now--Coach's avatar is (seemingly) intended to deprive all of us who see it of an appetite for any food--thus depriving us of the need to use TP. :bow:
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: franksolich on July 10, 2010, 06:13:06 PM
Frank. I respect you and hold you in the highest esteem but that avatar needs a warning. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/emoticons/shocked1.gif)

What happened was that I googled "images" for a new picture of Clare Boothe Luce, and for some reason this was one of them.  It's that now-disgraced White House journalist, of course, but I figured it would be good for a while, to see if anyone noticed.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 10, 2010, 06:19:12 PM
I'll accept the new avatar, Coach, as anything is an improvement over the trowelled makeup that is Helen Thomas.
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Post by: Tucker on July 10, 2010, 06:21:34 PM
What happened was that I googled "images" for a new picture of Clare Boothe Luce, and for some reason this was one of them.  It's that now-disgraced White House journalist, of course, but I figured it would be good for a while, to see if anyone noticed.

I noticed. Thanks.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: franksolich on July 10, 2010, 06:21:42 PM
I'll accept the new avatar, Coach, as anything is an improvement over the trowelled makeup that is Helen Thomas.

You know, sir, surely there's thousands of pictures of Clare Boothe Luce, given her prominence the last two-thirds of the 20th century, and her remarkable beauty and grace, but when one googles, there's only about 12 that show up over and over and over.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: PatriotGame on July 11, 2010, 01:49:31 AM

Parenthetically I'd have to say the most amazing TP I've ever encountered was the stuff the Deutsche Bundesbahn put in the third class cars they gave us for the head end of troop trains in the late 70s (Two coaches followed by about 25-30 flatcars loaded with armored vehicles).  I swear the stuff had been turned directly from logs on a veneer lathe, no pulping involved.   

In polite circles we call that sandpaper... :-)
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: PatriotGame on July 11, 2010, 01:50:01 AM
:lmao:

OK, but do the instructions say flushable?
Yes they do/are...
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: LC EFA on July 11, 2010, 02:18:37 AM
I just buy the nasty cheap stuff that's about $0.25 a roll and resembles 80grit sandpaper in functionality.

Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: chitownchica on July 11, 2010, 02:43:41 AM
This thread is just too damn funny.
Oh, and I prefer Charmin ultra soft mega roll.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: PatriotGame on July 11, 2010, 02:58:46 AM
This thread is just too damn funny.
Oh, and I prefer Charmin ultra soft mega roll.
Well now that is a 'shitty' elitist attitude!  :-) :tongue:

/DUmmy...
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: debk on July 11, 2010, 09:56:57 AM
Quilted Northern.  :-)
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 11, 2010, 10:07:55 AM
WANT TO SAVE THE TREES?
TRY WIPING WITH PLASTIC.

Saw that sticker on a pulp wood truck.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: Randy on July 11, 2010, 11:20:20 AM
DUmmies really should get out more and see more of the world, hell just their own country. They farm trees these days just like they do their precious soybeans. Just drive down I-10 from Pensacola FL to Tallahassee and you'll see nothing but miles and miles and miles and miles of trees all in rows as far as the eye can see. Many many billions of feet of toilet paper all pretty, virgin and clean.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: PatriotGame on July 11, 2010, 01:36:38 PM
:lmao:

OK, but do the instructions say flushable?
"Instructions"?

I'm a man - we don't need no stinking instructions...

[youtube=425,350]TFwprS_L6tg[/youtube]
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: miskie on July 11, 2010, 02:11:17 PM
I usually buy the Scott brand - not for any envirowacko reasons, just because its cheap, and doesn't clog pipes.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: Tucker on July 11, 2010, 03:49:15 PM
Y'all forgetting this is elitist liberals we're talking about. 1st thing you use is a bidet then only one sheet of tp. Every well furnished DUmmy dwelling has a bidet.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: Ballygrl on July 11, 2010, 04:09:37 PM
LOL, I was in a house once and they had a Bidet, I never saw 1 before, so I hit the button thingy on it and got soaken wet, I ran to get hubby to show it to him and he said he heard of "Bidets" before but never saw 1. Aren't all of us Republicans rich elitists and we should all have Bidets? seems like I need to switch to Democrat to become a rich elitist. There goes another stereotype.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: Tucker on July 11, 2010, 04:32:03 PM
LOL, I was in a house once and they had a Bidet, I never saw 1 before, so I hit the button thingy on it and got soaken wet, I ran to get hubby to show it to him and he said he heard of "Bidets" before but never saw 1. Aren't all of us Republicans rich elitists and we should all have Bidets? seems like I need to switch to Democrat to become a rich elitist. There goes another stereotype.

It was a drinking fountain.  :-)
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: Revolution on July 11, 2010, 04:36:49 PM
 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

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jberryhill  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jul-10-10 01:03 AM
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10. Just hold it until you are at someone else's house
 
...and use the hand towels.

That's what I do

That's just all kinds of disgusting. Now I'm paranoid. Whenever some stranger uses my bathroom from now on, I'll be in there when he/she's done checking to make sure things are pristine.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: Ballygrl on July 11, 2010, 04:55:36 PM
It was a drinking fountain.  :-)

:lmao:
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: PatriotGame on July 11, 2010, 06:08:06 PM
LOL, I was in a house once and they had a Bidet, I never saw 1 before, so I hit the button thingy on it and got soaken wet, I ran to get hubby to show it to him and he said he heard of "Bidets" before but never saw 1. Aren't all of us Republicans rich elitists and we should all have Bidets? seems like I need to switch to Democrat to become a rich elitist. There goes another stereotype.
Naw - Bidet, a new age DUmmy drinking fountain...
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: Karin on July 12, 2010, 09:57:11 AM
That's pretty funny about getting soaked with the bidet.  Could be in a sitcom!

I've worked in the paper industry.  Indeed we did plant trees, on farms.  A constant and fulltime process.  Just like soybeans.  We didn't decimate beautiful virgin forest, because we liked to precisely engineer the type of fiber we wanted.  That way you get consistency and quality, of course. 

The thing about recycled paper products...the moonbats can jump up and down about recycling all they want.  The stuff is hard to sell.  The printed image of a product in an ad looks terrible.  The publisher won't buy it.  It also takes a tremendous amount of water, chemical, and energy to de-ink and process.  The enviros never think of that. 
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: Wineslob on July 12, 2010, 01:45:09 PM
The DUmmies really don't know shit about shit.
Title: Re: primitives discuss bathroom tissue
Post by: chitownchica on July 14, 2010, 11:47:04 PM
I guess I was either very naive or sheltered as a young girl.  I saw one when I was a teen, and my friend told me it was a foot washer. I believed her.