Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-08-10 04:42 PM
THE SPARKLING HUSBAND PRIMITIVE, #05 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Original message
"The people are pissed off"
We hear that a lot these days. Not always so colloquially, but we all hear it.
What do you think is really pissing them off? To answer this, you need to take leave of the noozmedia for a coupla seconds and give the question some critical thought. What has people all pissed off?
Well, we know the teabaggers are the ever-pissed 15% loser contingent. We know the angry left is the 5% loser contingent (of which I find myself a proud member). But what about the people in the middle? Well, a fair bit of that middle is happy as a clam about the country and the direction. Maybe what? Another 10%. Okay, 20% Blissfully happy. Then there are the home teamers. Some here call them Solidarity Dems. They're mostly happy, have a few gripes, but will vote reliably for the Democrats. Let's say another 20% There is a similar contingent on the other side. maybe a little smaller, but not too much. Let's peg this at 15%.
So that's . . . . what? 75%? That 25% that's left are squishy Dems and squishy repubs. And they're the ones who have the anger we need to tap into to retain the congress.
Are they angry that some health care bill "making them buy a different kind of insurance" got passed? Or are they angry they still have to pay some huge-assed bill for their current health insurance or drug copays and don't see that changing anytime in their lives?
Are they angry because the banks got bailed out? Or are they angry that they DIDN'T get bailed out?
Are they angry that we seem to be leaving Iraq? Or are they angry we're STILL IN Afghanistan?
Are they angry their kid's school is still doing testing instead of teaching? Or are they angry that their schools are short of cash and only the testing and subjects supporting it are being funded?
Are they angry we did a stimulus bill? Or are they angry that the stimulus bill didn't seem to help THEM?
I'm sure you can ask similar questions.
What are the they so pissed off about?
mitchtv (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-08-10 04:46 PM
Response to Original message
1. It reminds me of the Carter years
people were in a Baaad mood,the Iranian hostage situation was just the icing, this Gulf crap is similar in some ways
BootinUp (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-08-10 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. I wouldn't go that far
but when Obama's disapproval poll numbers jump 10-15 points let me know.
tkmorris (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-08-10 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. In mid to late 1978 Carter approval rating was 50%
Obama's current approval rating is at 46% Google tells me (I assume there is some wiggle. Let's not quibble over a couple points either way). Looks pretty similar to me.
FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-08-10 05:38 PM
THE STENCHY CAT PRIMITIVE, #15 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Response to Original message
13. People want what they always want......
They want the President to pull jobs out of his ass, and when he does create (Government Jobs), then they say...but these are government jobs, which means we will pay more.
No, we want him to create private sector jobs, but then if he tries to give incentives for business to hire, he's called a corporatist....and when he warns that businesses don't pay their fair share of taxes, then businesses don't hire, then it is said that he's not repairing the economy.
They want the President not to have bailed out the banks, but they know that if he hadn't, we might be at 15-20% unemployment today, but they prefer not to go there, although most will speculate in the negative,
when they want to make their own point.
They want Government to safeguard all of their benefits, and provide more, but they also want the deficit to be reduced, like tomorrow.
They want the hole in the Gulf plugged, want BP to pay for it, and when BP is made to pay for it, they yawn and say....big deal!
but they don't want it to cost anything for the government to invest in clean energy, but they want clean energy now, as long as it doesn't disturb employment in the coal mines and in the oil industry, and in the meantime, too many still support Deep Sea Drilling, all the while claiming that their way of life is being threatened.
They expect that Obama should have passed immigration reform by now, although not long ago they were saying he was taking on too much, and should focus on the economy.
they want lower taxes, bigger benefits, reduced deficits, full employment, low energy prices, smaller government which regulates more, but only if it doesn't cost anything.
People want that age old cake and to eat it too.
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-08-10 06:42 PM
THE SPARKLING HUSBAND PRIMITIVE, #05 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Response to Reply #13
18. Remind me never to ask you to campaign for me when I run for office.
That message will won no converts to your side, I'm afraid. It essentially tells pissed off people "tough shit". Better to just give them pots and dead chickens, no? You make it sound like they're at fault.
I know you see this as very unfair to Obama, but this is the big leagues. And you know what? He's a grownup and I bet he can handle this.
FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-08-10 06:52 PM
THE STENCHY CAT PRIMITIVE, #15 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Response to Reply #18
20. Pissed off people should actually be less pissed off now then they were in Nov of 2008.....especially if they kept perspective of the realities that aren't going away, what government they have been voting into place for the last 30 years.
If they are mad cause life isn't peaches and cream 20 months out.....someone needs to tell them that it was never gonna be....and if they don't understand that, then no one can help them be less pissed off.
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-08-10 07:03 PM
THE SPARKLING HUSBAND PRIMITIVE, #05 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Response to Reply #20
23. See, there ya go again.
"tough shit"
That doesn't win friends.
FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-08-10 07:43 PM
THE STENCHY CAT PRIMITIVE; #15 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Response to Reply #23
24. you can boil down my paragraphs into 2 soundbyted words,,.
if it helps you make your case, then yeah.....go for it.
but the type of canvasser that I am, I bring my facts with me, not just a soundbyte.
I know people like for life to be simple without complications and shit, but most times life isn't that simple....
and sometimes two words doesn't do justice to what we are facing in our politics, our national and local media, and the difficulties folks are facing, and the damage of the last 30 years. Difficulties not due to as much the decisions this administration has made, but because the shit was ****ed up beyond what a mere 20 months (or earlier, for those who have been complaining and criticizing everything forever) can rectify.
So yeah, go for the "tough shit" thingie...
although it isn't just unjust; it's silly.
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-08-10 08:14 PM
THE SPARKLING HUSBAND PRIMITIVE; #05 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Response to Reply #24
28. I'm sure you're very charming out on the canvass.
Skidmore (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-08-10 06:26 PM
THE SKIDMARKED UNDERWEAR PRIMITIVE; THE DISCONSOLATE FARMWIFE FROM IOWA
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14. I'm gonna be pissed off in 2012 if I wake up after election day to find that ignorant Mama Grizzly Pig with Lipstick has been installed in the WH with Tawd sitting in on the meetings of a Cabinet filled with Teabaggers and hasbeens like Armey and Newtie. After watching the media for the past two days start turning the soft focus lenses on this woman and listening to the ever shriller shredding by--yes, leftbaggers, for the first time I think that could happen. They shoved the fratboy drunk and his evil Dick into the WH while we on the left and our feckless leadership picked out bellybutton lint. We got ourselves together last election only to find that no one learned a *******ed thing. At this moment, it seems to me that the left and right have joined and not in a constructive way (need I mention the Hamsher/Nordquist marriage). I'm digusted with what I see and hear now.
Reading the comments back and forth between the sparkling husband primitive and the stenchy cat primitive is like listening to two morons competing to decide which one of them is really the champion of stupid.
Let me break it down, you two, and I'll make it so simple that even idiots like you can understand it. When Dear Leader came into office, the economy was at a certain point. Eighteen months and one trillion plus dollars later, it's worse; much worse. Despite your claims otherwise, you don't understand that what I just described is what the common citizen knows to be the case, and they understand why better than either one of you could ever hope to in your lifetimes. Take note in 4 months who gets punished for their incompetence.
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-08-10 06:42 PM
THE SPARKLING HUSBAND PRIMITIVE, #05 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Response to Reply #13
Better to just give them pots and dead chickens, no?
Reading the comments back and forth between the sparkling husband primitive and the stenchy cat primitive is like listening to two morons competing to decide which one of them is really the champion of stupid.
Let me break it down, you two, and I'll make it so simple that even idiots like you can understand it. When Dear Leader came into office, the economy was at a certain point. Eighteen months and one trillion plus dollars later, it's worse; much worse. Despite your claims otherwise, you don't understand that what I just described is what the common citizen knows to be the case, and they understand why better than either one of you could ever hope to in your lifetimes. Take note in 4 months who gets punished for their incompetence.
What the hell is the cat box king talking about? The anger in the country is palpable. Even people who pay no attention to politics are pissed and concerned about the direction of the country.
Cindie
Yeah, but all the problems Lord & Savior Obama has to deal with are the fault of ChimpyMcBushHitler. [/DU MODE]
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-08-10 04:42 PM
THE SPARKLING HUSBAND PRIMITIVE, #05 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Original message
"The people are pissed off"
We hear that a lot these days. Not always so colloquially, but we all hear it...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8712302Snarkling snarky snarkleness is such a wonderful thing....
Oh my.
My, my, the skidmarked underwear primitive has some anger there.