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The Help Desk => Computer Related Discussions & Questions => Topic started by: Thor on July 08, 2010, 01:58:39 PM
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My new AMD Phenom II X6 processor and RAM FINALLY arrived today !! I have a project for tomorrow/ this weekend now!! :-)
:yahoo:
Case- Check
Power Supply- check
Motherboard- check
Processor- check
RAM- Check
DVD Burner- check
Hard drive- check (have to cannibalize this one for now)
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I don't see a fan/heat sink on that list. :whistling:
An X6... sounds nice.
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I don't see a fan/heat sink on that list. :whistling:
An X6... sounds nice.
No operating system either. Maybe Windows Vista? :-)
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I don't see a fan/heat sink on that list. :whistling:
An X6... sounds nice.
The x6 came with a fairly nice heat sink & fan :-)
No operating system either. Maybe Windows Vista? :-)
Aren't YOU funny ?!?!?!??!? ........... Probably Windows 7........... all of the components are W7 verified...... ;)
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Very nice. One of these days...
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My new AMD Phenom II X6 processor and RAM FINALLY arrived today !! I have a project for tomorrow/ this weekend now!! :-)
:yahoo:
Case- Check
Power Supply- check
Motherboard- check
Processor- check
RAM- Check
DVD Burner- check
Hard drive- check (have to cannibalize this one for now)
I now know where to ask computer questions. :uhsure: Thor :hi5: enjoy!
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Took me about four hours from start to finish, but that includes the hour it took me to drive down the street for a fan/heatsink that did NOT come with my CPU. And the time it takes to unpackage everything. :p
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Took me about four hours from start to finish, but that includes the hour it took me to drive down the street for a fan/heatsink that did NOT come with my CPU. And the time it takes to unpackage everything. :p
4 hours?
Unpack case.
Drink a beer.
Unpack MB.
Drink a beer.
Unpack CPU.
Drink a beer.
Something like that?
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:rotf: Pretty much.
I meant four hours from having a pile of taped-up boxes to having a working computer and being online checking my email.
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:rotf: Pretty much.
I meant four hours from having a pile of taped-up boxes to having a working computer and being online checking my email.
Hell it can take 2 hours just to load all the S/W.
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My new AMD Phenom II X6 processor and RAM FINALLY arrived today !! I have a project for tomorrow/ this weekend now!! :-)
:yahoo:
Case- Check
Power Supply- check
Motherboard- check
Processor- check
RAM- Check
DVD Burner- check
Hard drive- check (have to cannibalize this one for now)
Hey, dude, I know someone who will be in hog heaven tomorrow.
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Actually, I won't be able to start it until late tomorrow afternoon or maybe even Saturday morning. :bawl: I have to drive to McKinney to the bank (which SUCKS because it's 40 miles ONE WAY) and then I have an appointment in Sherman with some vocational rehab lady in the afternoon. I don't know how long that will take. Hopefully, not more than an hour.
BTW, I have to work slow because I have little feeling in my fingers due to my neck problems. Thank God for spell check!!
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My new AMD Phenom II X6 processor and RAM FINALLY arrived today !! I have a project for tomorrow/ this weekend now!! :-)
:yahoo:
Case- Check
Power Supply- check
Motherboard- check
Processor- check
RAM- Check
DVD Burner- check
Hard drive- check (have to cannibalize this one for now)
Day-Um!
I have had my eye on that AMD processor for a while. What MB are you using and RAM speed? I still feel ya'll need to look at an SSD (Solid State Drive). They are spendy, $300.00 for 80 gigs of storage but if you partition it, install the OS on a 30 gig partition, that leaves 50 gigs for applications. I have Office 2007, Firefox, Photoshop, DVDShrink, DVD Decrypter, uTorrent, MIRC, and a bunch of other shit installed on that 50 gig partition and still have 40+ gigs of free storage.
The fracking speed of an SSD cannot be made-up with RAM speed!
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No operating system either. Maybe Windows Vista? :-)
Naw....knowing teh Thor, he is probably running Windows ME! :tongue: :-) :fuelfire:
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4 hours?
Unpack case.
Drink a beer.
Unpack MB.
Drink a beer.
Unpack CPU.
Drink a beer.
Something like that?
You and I need to go into business...building computers...
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Day-Um!
I have had my eye on that AMD processor for a while. What MB are you using and RAM speed? I still feel ya'll need to look at an SSD (Solid State Drive). They are spendy, $300.00 for 80 gigs of storage but if you partition it, install the OS on a 30 gig partition, that leaves 50 gigs for applications. I have Office 2007, Firefox, Photoshop, DVDShrink, DVD Decrypter, uTorrent, MIRC, and a bunch of other shit installed on that 50 gig partition and still have 40+ gigs of free storage.
The fracking speed of an SSD cannot be made-up with RAM speed!
I'd like an SSD, but I've read a few bad things about them. Basically, they're not as reliable as they could be (as compared to SATA or PATA drives) and when they fail, you're screwed. At least with an SATA or pATA drive, one MAY be able to salvage the platters and install them in an operating drive. Check out Newegg or 3bTech. I've seen them on sale lately.
Naw....knowing teh Thor, he is probably running Windows ME! :tongue: :-) :fuelfire:
Hardly, at worst XP 64 bit, more than likely Windows 7. I kind of like Windows 7 and all of the stuff is certified for it. There's a thread where I laid out the specs for my motherboard, case, etc. http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,45798.0.html
The proc is an AMD Phenom II X6 1055 (the slower and cheaper one) and the RAM is 2- 2GB sticks of Super Talent DDR3 -1333
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I'd like an SSD, but I've read a few bad things about them. Basically, they're not as reliable as they could be (as compared to SATA or PATA drives) and when they fail, you're screwed. At least with an SATA or pATA drive, one MAY be able to salvage the platters and install them in an operating drive. Check out Newegg or 3bTech. I've seen them on sale lately.
Hardly, at worst XP 64 bit, more than likely Windows 7. I kind of like Windows 7 and all of the stuff is certified for it. There's a thread where I laid out the specs for my motherboard, case, etc. http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,45798.0.html
The proc is an AMD Phenom II X6 1055 (the slower and cheaper one) and the RAM is 2- 2GB sticks of Super Talent DDR3 -1333
This is why I bought the Thecus NAS (http://www.thecus.com/products_over.php?cid=10&pid=77) to hold my archive data. Windows 7 will automatically run the SSD TRIM to keep the data defraged so I have no worries if I lose the drive. Since the late 90's using NT, I have always stored my sensitive archive data on a seperate hard drive and burning the most sensitive stuff (pictures of my cats - it's a wife thing), on CD's.
The best part of using an SSD, aside from the shear speed, and using a NAS, I have actually removed eight hard drives from my systems, changed from 1K watt power supplies to 450 watt power supplies, dropped the temp in my computer room by 3 degrees, and cut 10 bucks off of my monthly power bill. Believe it or not, that 3 degree temp drop is a huge thing.
ETA:
You are correct about salvaging dead drives. I have swapped the circuit boards and platters between drives (Torx tools not with standing), to resurrect them. Do you remember the old freezer trick? :-)
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I'd like an SSD, but I've read a few bad things about them. Basically, they're not as reliable as they could be (as compared to SATA or PATA drives) and when they fail, you're screwed. At least with an SATA or pATA drive, one MAY be able to salvage the platters and install them in an operating drive. Check out Newegg or 3bTech. I've seen them on sale lately.
Hardly, at worst XP 64 bit, more than likely Windows 7. I kind of like Windows 7 and all of the stuff is certified for it. There's a thread where I laid out the specs for my motherboard, case, etc. http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,45798.0.html
The proc is an AMD Phenom II X6 1055 (the slower and cheaper one) and the RAM is 2- 2GB sticks of Super Talent DDR3 -1333
Another comment:
Do you find it strange that some guys can 'get wood' from the picture of a computer motherboard?
Me neither...
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You and I need to go into business...building computers...
:cheersmate:
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Another comment:
Do you find it strange that some guys can 'get wood' from the picture of a computer motherboard?
Me neither...
If a man "gets wood" from a picture of a motherboard, there is something seriously WRONG with that man. :o
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Well, almost. It boots up and loads the dvd for win7. However, the hard drive I'm trying to use doesn't want to cooperate. I have an SATA drive that I'll cannibalize after dinner.
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went out and got a 320 GB SATA from Best Buy. $50+ tax. The Windows 7 DVD gave me some trouble and it finally cooperated. I'm finalizing some motherboard drivers as I type from the Gigabyte CD. So, it's up and running!! :hyper: :-)
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If a man "gets wood" from a picture of a motherboard, there is something seriously WRONG with that man. :o
Me - raising my hands - waiving wildly... :-)
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Well, almost. It boots up and loads the dvd for win7. However, the hard drive I'm trying to use doesn't want to cooperate. I have an SATA drive that I'll cannibalize after dinner.
What?
Why?
SATA either works or it doesn't. I have however witnessed Vista AND Windows 7 DVD's take 20 minutes+ to load to the OS install prompts when booting from the DVD to install the OS. The first time I ran into that, with a Vista install, I must have cycled power and rebooted from the DVD 10 times and tried four different hard drives. Used my laptop to grab a fresh ISO of Vista Ultimate via Bit Torrent and STILL had the boot delay. I finally walked away and went out to dinner. Came back 1.5 hours later and the machine was ready for input.
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The SATA drive that I had in another computer was used for storage. Windows didn't explain it to me, but it said it couldn't use that drive to install itself on. No Biggie. I ran up to Best Buy and got a deal on a 320 GB SATA drive ($50 +tax) I did put my storage drive back into its original PC and it works fine. :clueless:
I also ran into a LOT of prompts for a cd/dvd driver when trying to install. Somehow, it finally got past that issue. I have read that Lite On dvd rws don't like to read burned DVDS, so THAT could have been it.
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The SATA drive that I had in another computer was used for storage. Windows didn't explain it to me, but it said it couldn't use that drive to install itself on. No Biggie. I ran up to Best Buy and got a deal on a 320 GB SATA drive ($50 +tax) I did put my storage drive back into its original PC and it works fine. :clueless:
I also ran into a LOT of prompts for a cd/dvd driver when trying to install. Somehow, it finally got past that issue. I have read that Lite On dvd rws don't like to read burned DVDS, so THAT could have been it.
Yes!
While cheap and fast, LiteOn drives can be flaky when it comes to optical media burned on other drives. You know, I have a bunch of multi-hundred gig hard drives in external IEEE USB 2.0 cases sitting idle. If'n youse or anyone wants them, send me a picture of your hands and I'll ship them out to you.
Of course, I'll have to 'remove' the Furry Porn from them first. :-)
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You'll have to wait on that pic. My camera is in the truck and it's raining...... I will venture out shortly to get some smokes. Perhaps when I return.......
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Phenom x6 - very very cool
I'm envious. Keep your doors locked. :-)
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My wife has a Buffalo external (500G) drive that "died" At first it would cause the comp to lock up, so we disconnected it. Now if we try to fire it up, the power light comes on, you hear a click, and then the drive shuts down. I'm thinking a bad PS (external) or if the drive is bad, are these things salvageable, like you are talking about, putting the discs in something else?
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My wife has a Buffalo external (500G) drive that "died" At first it would cause the comp to lock up, so we disconnected it. Now if we try to fire it up, the power light comes on, you hear a click, and then the drive shuts down. I'm thinking a bad PS (external) or if the drive is bad, are these things salvageable, like you are talking about, putting the discs in something else?
More than likely, the drive has gone bad. There are a number of electronics involved with a drive, so it could be a number of things.
As far as swapping the platters in a drive, yes, but one has to REALLY know what they're doing. I don't have a good drive that I'm willing to cannibalize to try that experiment. I have read that it's a very tricky process. (http://www.wikihow.com/Swap-Hard-Disk-Drive-Platters) Perhaps one day.
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Why does it say that only 3.5 gig of ram is usable?
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Onboard video swiped 512 MB RAM....... which is fairly typical of onboard video. Perhaps in the future, I MIGHT get an actual video card and free up that RAM
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Onboard video swiped 512 MB RAM.......
Ah, I see. Is a video card in the near future? Out of five computers in our house, only the laptop uses it's onboard video.
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Ah, I see. Is a video card in the near future? Out of five computers in our house, only the laptop uses it's onboard video.
Probably not in the near future. I have other things to do and a very limited budget. It took me since Jan to acquire all of the parts to build this beast. Hell, did you see the motherboard?? HDMI Out, etc. It's working right well at the moment and I really don't see a need for that kind of expenditure at this point.
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Probably not in the near future. I have other things to do and a very limited budget. It took me since Jan to acquire all of the parts to build this beast. Hell, did you see the motherboard?? HDMI Out, etc. It's working right well at the moment and I really don't see a need for that kind of expenditure at this point.
Yeah, some of the top of the line new video cards can cost more than building a decent computer.
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I'll say. While this card may be more than I need or can use, it would be kind of cool: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195094 I'd probably have to save up for a year for that one and still probably couldn't use all of its features. (That's over 2x as much as my PC cost to build)
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And that cross-fire supported means that two can be ran in parallel? That would make for a killer gaming machine.
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And that cross-fire supported means that two can be ran in parallel? That would make for a killer gaming machine.
As I understand it, yes. I'm not much into gaming, so I haven't paid much attention to that stuff.
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Onboard video swiped 512 MB RAM....... which is fairly typical of onboard video. Perhaps in the future, I MIGHT get an actual video card and free up that RAM
As I understand it the video cards memory is still mapped onto the system memory.
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Probably not in the near future. I have other things to do and a very limited budget. It took me since Jan to acquire all of the parts to build this beast. Hell, did you see the motherboard?? HDMI Out, etc. It's working right well at the moment and I really don't see a need for that kind of expenditure at this point.
How well do you like Windows 7?
I'm still running Vista.
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I'll say. While this card may be more than I need or can use, it would be kind of cool: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195094 I'd probably have to save up for a year for that one and still probably couldn't use all of its features. (That's over 2x as much as my PC cost to build)
Holy Crap!
Over $1200 for a video card?
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Holy Crap!
Over $1200 for a video card?
Not to worry - in a years time it will be 1/3rd that price.
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How well do you like Windows 7?
I'm still running Vista.
I don't "see" a lot of difference between W7 and Vista. Not real fond of the 64 bit app right yet.
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I don't "see" a lot of difference between W7 and Vista. Not real fond of the 64 bit app right yet.
What particulars about the 64 bit don't you like?
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What particulars about the 64 bit don't you like?
Program compatibility. I can't install a 32 bit program in a 64 bit windows, at least windows won't let me. I've had to go find a 64 bit printer/ scanner app, and some other stuff.
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Thought I'd pull up this old thread where I mentioned my wife's external HD bit the dust. Turns out it was the interface inside the drive case that went bad. All's good, the HD inside is fine. :hyper:
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Cool :II: