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Title: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on July 07, 2010, 01:54:56 PM
Ready to punch something?

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WHEAT RIDGE, Colo. - Admitted thieves are going free, while an elderly Wheat Ridge man is facing the possibility of spending the rest of his life behind bars, all, he says, for trying to defend his property and his life.

82-year-old Robert Wallace said in February that he looked out his window and saw two men hooking his flatbed trailer up to their pickup. He yelled at them to stop, but they sped away, stealing his trailer. He told police he fired two shots at the pickup.

Minutes later, police say 32-year-old Damacio Torres dropped 28-year-old Alvaro Cardona off at a hospital emergency room with a gunshot wound to the face.

Torres did not stay to talk with police, but they caught up with him later. According to court documents, he admitted he and Cardona stole the trailer.

Wallace did not want to talk on camera, but when we asked him if the two men threatened him he said, "They almost ran me over."

The Jefferson County DA's office said that neither Torres nor Cardona have been charged with anything at this point, even though Torres confessed to the crime. However, the homeowner, Wallace is facing twelve felony counts, including four counts of attempted first degree murder. If convicted, he could spend the rest of his life behind bars.

Sources say Torres and Cardona are believed to be in the country illegally and both have an arrest record. Cardona's record includes public fighting and numerous traffic offenses like driving without a license or insurance. Torres's record includes agricultural trespassing as well as a 2005 arrest for aggravated motor vehicle theft for which he was given a plea bargain to a lesser crime. Sources say Torres is also under investigation for being part of a major auto theft ring.

Wallace is out on bond and due back in court in September to enter his plea.

Neighbors say the thieves should be the ones facing charges and Wallace should be given an award for protecting the neighborhood.

http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-theives-free-victim-arrested-txt,0,231586.story
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: NHSparky on July 07, 2010, 01:57:27 PM
And yet McRINO and Zerobama can't for the life of them understand why most REAL Americans are opposed to amnesty.
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: Thor on July 07, 2010, 01:59:07 PM
This country is upside down........ :banghead:
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 07, 2010, 02:31:44 PM
This country is upside down........ :banghead:

NO...It's gone crazy as hell....we might as well start self-medicating like everyone else.
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: rich_t on July 07, 2010, 04:15:19 PM
WTF is wrong with the DAs in this country?
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: MrsSmith on July 07, 2010, 05:11:24 PM
Colorado has been overrun with leftists from California.  Quite obviously, Wallace made the mistake of firing a gun while white.
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: bkg on July 07, 2010, 05:31:05 PM
WTF is wrong with the DAs in this country?

They are more afraid of guns than illegals.

And technically, he shot them as they fled. That'd get you life in MN as well. Theives have all the power here.
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: Carl on July 07, 2010, 05:35:21 PM
They are more afraid of guns than illegals.

And technically, he shot them as they fled. That'd get you life in MN as well. Theives have all the power here.

Pretty much the same here in the bulk of the state.
Thieves and criminals are the fault of society after all. ::)
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: bkg on July 07, 2010, 05:55:41 PM
Pretty much the same here in the bulk of the state.
Thieves and criminals are the fault of society after all. ::)

they are victims of racism and the rich white honkey cracker...
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on July 07, 2010, 06:21:53 PM
They are more afraid of guns than illegals.

And technically, he shot them as they fled. That'd get you life in MN as well. Theives have all the power here.
I'm not 100% on this but I think the thief was shot as the vehicle approached Mr Wallace as he was shot in the face.
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: bkg on July 07, 2010, 06:25:14 PM
I'm not 100% on this but I think the thief was shot as the vehicle approached Mr Wallace as he was shot in the face.

I read it the other way, but tecnically doesn't matter. In many states, MN included, the direction of flight is effectively irrelevant.
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: MrsSmith on July 07, 2010, 07:05:32 PM
I read it the other way, but tecnically doesn't matter. In many states, MN included, the direction of flight is effectively irrelevant.

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Wallace did not want to talk on camera, but when we asked him if the two men threatened him he said, "They almost ran me over."

So, he fires at them as they are pulling away with his trailer and trying to run him over...and HE gets attempted murder charges. 
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: Airwolf on July 07, 2010, 08:51:39 PM
Makes you wonder just who do the DA's work for.
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: Boudicca on July 07, 2010, 09:10:44 PM
Makes you wonder just who do the DA's work for.

My guess is Eric Holder called the DA up and suggested he prosecute the racist white oppressor of the poor Mexicans who are coming here for a better life. :censored:so I don't say what I think about this asshole DA and our Obamanized "justice" system that allows the perpetuation of these atrocities against US citizens while coddling criminals, as long as their skin color isn't white. :bird:
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: NHSparky on July 08, 2010, 06:43:29 AM
They are more afraid of guns than illegals.

And technically, he shot them as they fled. That'd get you life in MN as well. Theives have all the power here.

Colorado has a "Make My Day" law.  Almost as open as Texas or here in NH.  If he LEFT the property, that would be another issue.
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on July 08, 2010, 08:58:39 AM
I read it the other way, but tecnically doesn't matter. In many states, MN included, the direction of flight is effectively irrelevant.
More details from this morning:

The shots were fired through the passenger-side window as the truck passed Mr. Wallace.

Mr. Wallace stated he had to side-step to avoid the vehicle.
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 08, 2010, 10:05:27 AM
More details from this morning:

The shots were fired through the passenger-side window as the truck passed Mr. Wallace.

Mr. Wallace stated he had to side-step to avoid the vehicle.

Doesn't matter to me......call me they start to pick a jury.
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on July 08, 2010, 10:34:01 AM
Doesn't matter to me......call me they start to pick a jury.
The DA is catching a shit-ton of heat from a local radio host.

Essentially, we're waiting to see what the DA wants to put forward for actual indictments in September when Mr. Wallace is arraigned. It's presumed the asst DA is throwing the book in the hopes of intimidating Mr. Wallace into seeking a plea deal. Mr. Wallace is being encouraged by his supporters to stand his ground once again because no reasonable person imagines the charges of attempted 1st degree murder would be anything other than laughed out of court by 12 citizens, good and true.

Depending on what comes down the pike in September dictates whether or not a fund raiser will be held to help Mr. Wallace lawyer up.

BTW - the shit bag shot in the face was treated on our dime. That sounds bad but it has a silver lining: there are rumors that the shit bag may seek civil restitution but as he incurred no expenses of his own he has no expenses to recoup. Claiming lost wages would be interesting because then he has to declare exactly what it is he does for a living.

Pain and suffering as well as punitive damages are still an issue though. Hopefully, enough public outcry will see him deported before this becomes a reality.
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 08, 2010, 10:55:48 AM
The DA is catching a shit-ton of heat from a local radio host.

Essentially, we're waiting to see what the DA wants to put forward for actual indictments in September when Mr. Wallace is arraigned. It's presumed the asst DA is throwing the book in the hopes of intimidating Mr. Wallace into seeking a plea deal. Mr. Wallace is being encouraged by his supporters to stand his ground once again because no reasonable person imagines the charges of attempted 1st degree murder would be anything other than laughed out of court by 12 citizens, good and true.

Depending on what comes down the pike in September dictates whether or not a fund raiser will be held to help Mr. Wallace lawyer up.

BTW - the shit bag shot in the face was treated on our dime. That sounds bad but it has a silver lining: there are rumors that the shit bag may seek civil restitution but as he incurred no expenses of his own he has no expenses to recoup. Claiming lost wages would be interesting because then he has to declare exactly what it is he does for a living.

Pain and suffering as well as punitive damages are still an issue though. Hopefully, enough public outcry will see him deported before this becomes a reality.

I have absolutely nothing better to do than sit on that jury too.....so call me.
Title: Re: Illegal Alien Career Criminals Go Free, While 82 y/o Victim Faces 12 Felonies
Post by: Ptarmigan on July 09, 2010, 07:54:38 PM
More stupidity. Proof you can't fix and reason with stupid.  :mental: :bird: If this crap continues, color me not surprised if we see the Second Civil War erupt.