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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on July 04, 2010, 08:14:54 AM
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Oh my.
fasttense (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-23-10 10:57 AM
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Has anyone else heard of, or experienced, people stealing ripe vegetables from their gardens?
I live in a poor rural area. I have a neighbor who belongs to my local small farmer's co-op. I'm the designated person to call retail outlets to sell our produce. He was suppose to provide me with several bushel baskets of crook neck squash. But when pick up time came around, there was no squash. He showed me his field, you can see it from the roadside. Seems some people (maybe 2 or 3) in what looks like sneakers had helped themselves to his squash. Their footprints were all along the side of the field and leading up to the road.
So, I'm wondering if anyone else has had this problem of people stealing their vegetables out of their garden? Is it time to start guarding our fields and gardens from hungry people? Are things that desperate yet?
Huh?
I thought that all changed circa 11:00 a.m. January 20, 2009.
The primitives promised us it would.
JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-23-10 10:59 AM
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1. I'm in a semi-rural area with a lot of family gardens.
It's a fairly common complaint. Sometimes leads to neighbors feuding!
fasttense (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-23-10 11:05 AM
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4. Really? I can see kids taking fruit and not knowing better.
But adults? And then it leading to feuds.
I can understand being upset by the missing vegetables. It's hard work to keep it alive in this 90 degree heat.
I had no idea it was a common complaint.
havocmom (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-23-10 11:01 AM
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2. cattle rustling big where I live
All good god fearing neighbors, but SOMEBODY in the group is stealing cattle.
fasttense (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-23-10 11:08 AM
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6. Cattle rustling?
I thought that was only in wild west TV shows. I wonder if I need to start locking up my sheep at night?
havocmom (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-23-10 11:28 AM
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10. weeeel now, sheep started going missing here too, when prices went up.
That slowed down some when it got so wet that the ground showed tracks, and they weren't coyote (well, not the four legged coyotes, any way)
mzteris (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-23-10 11:03 AM
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3. it was only a matter of time
people have no money. Desperate people do desperate things
Huh?
I thought that all changed circa 11:00 a.m. January 20, 2009.
The primitives promised us it would.
Warpy (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-23-10 11:06 AM
#09 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE DEFROCKED WARPED PRIMITIVE
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5. Yes, but crookneck squash wasn't the target
Tomatoes and sweet corn were more of a temptation. People who grow melons and don't live right next to their gardens are asking for trouble unless they patrol frequently when the melons are ripening, shotgun loaded with rock salt.
To steal crookneck squash meant that they were hungry and hoping to sell it for something better.
And yes, things are likely to get just that desperate.
Huh?
I thought that all changed circa 11:00 a.m. January 20, 2009.
The primitives promised us it would.
HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-23-10 11:10 AM
THE PILGRIM PRIMITIVE
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7. It happens, my farm is spitting distance from a hamlet
I've given up trying to protect wild asparagus, blackberries, hickory nuts and walnuts. It's just a whole lot easier to invite the local kids in to grab whatever they can carry home. That also turned out to be a way to get to know families in the village, the unbidden hunting has virtually stopped since I've gained the friendship of neighbors, I actually have squirrels back in my woodlot.
zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-23-10 11:16 AM
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8. As old as farming
Literature is filled with tales around this topic, from children eating themselves sick on stolen food, hobos stealing food for the common pot, and gangs of people stealing virtually whole crops in the night.
kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-23-10 11:22 AM
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9. People used to go into my fenced plot at the community garden in L.A. and swipe my fully ripe tomatoes and peppers and olallieberries. As if that wasn't bad enough, people used to come into my fully fenced back yard at the house I rented to steal my veggies from my BACK YARD (I was on a corner so people could see the goodies.
People are assholes. It made me mad enough to consider staying home on guard with a frickin' baseball bat.
MineralMan (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-23-10 11:35 AM
THE ANTI-OSTEOPATHIC PRIMITIVE
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11. Anything of value has the potential for being stolen.
A sad business.
Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-23-10 11:53 AM
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12. That kind of stuff has happened forever
Dover (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-24-10 09:44 AM
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13. Guilty
When I was a kid we would on occasion sneak down to a local farmer's field crawl on our bellies and yank carrots out of the ground. We really weren't after raw carrots so much as enticed by the terrifying myths surrounding this, no doubt, innocent farmer. It was said he would drown little children in the lake behind his place if they were caught on his property. So, of course, we had to prove our fearlessness and stealth.
But on a more serious note, this sounds like it might be an organized group. If so I imagine you'll hear similar stories from other farmers.
My recommendation is also as old as farming itself . Get a big dog who will, at the very least, bark a warning. And I hear Guinea fowl also make good watchdogs.
It seems that petty crimes are, in general, going up around here. There is a very casual style to bank robberies at some branch or other every week. The robbers often don't even bother to disguise themselves.
timo (394 posts) Thu Jun-24-10 09:55 AM
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14. sure does
You would be surprised how INDIGNANT people get when you bust them, we have ALOT of winter tourists down here and they will pull over and walk out into our fields and just start helping themselves and when I point out what they are doing is against the law you should see how ANGRY they get and the names they call us..this has gone on since forever....and they are not broke either because they all drive really expensive diesel rigs to pull their trailers with!!!!! they will think nothing of stealing a field sack of onions nothing at all, I have even witnessed one telling another in the grocery not to buy vegetables just go steal them from the farms...it creates a little animosity between the locals and the yankees.
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That's why my fruit trees, herb plants, and veggies are BEHIND the house, away from prying eyes.
That and if you find someone trespassing on your property in NH, they don't have to break into the house before you can shoot them. Cuts down on the thievery a bit in the rural areas.
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That slowed down some when it got so wet that the ground showed tracks, and they weren't coyote (well, not the four legged coyotes, any way)....is that a subtle dig at illegal aliens?
Quit your bitching DUmmie.....they're just undocumented vegetable gatherers.
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That slowed down some when it got so wet that the ground showed tracks, and they weren't coyote (well, not the four legged coyotes, any way)....is that a subtle dig at illegal aliens?
Quit your bitching DUmmie.....they're just undocumented democrat vegetable gatherers.
fixed.
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It's a good thing that OP is in the Rural/Farm forum and not GD. Bobo the Hobo would be chastizing them about their greed in not wanting to share their healthy food with the foraging homeless.
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Funny how the DUchebags get peeved when they are not the ones doing the stealing.
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Must be the part of the country you slugs live in. Sure ain't a problem out here.
We actually respect one another's private property.
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-23-10 11:01 AM
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2. cattle rustling big where I live
All good god fearing neighbors, but SOMEBODY in the group is stealing cattle.
OMG!!!111eleventymillionplusten!!!111
PROTECT THE WEED CROPS AT ALL COSTS! SELL THE CHILDREN, TORCH THE HOUSE BUTT PROTECT THE WEED!!!111
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-23-10 11:10 AM
THE PILGRIM PRIMITIVE
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7. It happens, my farm is spitting distance from a hamlet
WTF?
I suppose the Sheriff of Nottingham is keeping you down and Robin Hood roams the forest too?
Good hell you pathetic old hippie! Get a freaking grip.
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WTF?
I suppose the Sheriff of Nottingham is keeping you down and Robin Hood roams the forest too?
Good hell you pathetic old hippie! Get a freaking grip.
Heh, heh, heh! Ya know they're a lefty when they use words like village or hamlet, doncha?
How about "town" ya DUmbass? There ain't no "hamlets" around here. King Aurthur had 'em all burned down so all the people had to move within the castle walls! He could watch 'em better there. Easier to collect taxes and kept 'em from killin' the King's deer, doncha know!
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You only get in trouble if they find the body.
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Why not just buy a gun and shoot trespassers?
"Ain't nobody gun steal no food from my family."
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You only get in trouble if they find the body.
heh! I live next to a lake that's 1300 ft deep! The locals speculate all the time on how many bodies have been....er.....misplaced!
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heh! I live next to a lake that's 1300 ft deep! The locals speculate all the time on how many bodies have been....er.....misplaced!
Lucky Peak?
Nice lake - great boating and playground!
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Lucky Peak?
Nice lake - great boating and playground!
Lake Pend O'reille! ( pronounced Ponderay ) It was named by French trappers back in the early 1800's. We used to hold the record for Rainbow trout. I think it was 42 lbs plus! I'll hafta look it up. They're called Kamloops. Basically, they're a land locked Steel Head.
We used to have the record for Dollies too, but some biologist decided we have our own species. The asshole named them Bull Trout. Not nearly as exotic as Dolly Varden, the dipshit!
Anyway, we hold the record on that species at 32 pounds 6 ounces.