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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: bijou on July 02, 2010, 09:45:41 AM
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The Schwarzenegger administration today ordered State Controller John Chiang to reduce state worker pay for July to the federal minimum allowed by law -- $7.25 an hour for most state workers.
The instructions from the Department of Personnel Administration exclude roughly 37,000 state workers in six bargaining units that recently came to tentative labor agreements with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. ...
Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/07/01/2864148/schwarzenegger-orders-minimum.html#ixzz0sXJtjEmY
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That's sure gonna piss a lot of folks off.
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Smoke and mirrors. Once they have a budget the employees will receive back pay so what's this mean? That article is pretty thin on real details. Why will only 37K out of 240K total state employees receive the cut? I smell BS and bandaids.
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Smoke and mirrors. Once they have a budget the employees will receive back pay so what's this mean? That article is pretty thin on real details. Why will only 37K out of 240K total state employees receive the cut? I smell BS and bandaids.
37K is the number excluded, not the number getting the cut.
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diversion... but from what?
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That's sure gonna piss a lot of folks off.
And a lot of those lower-end workers are SEIU folks.
Oh, sweet, delicious irony.
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37K is the number excluded, not the number getting the cut.
right :confused:
I jump sometimes before digesting. Still an interesting concept to exclude some, I really want more details.
Does this exclude police and firefighters?
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right :confused:
I jump sometimes before digesting. Still an interesting concept to exclude some, I really want more details.
Does this exclude police and firefighters?
exclude roughly 37,000 state workers in six bargaining units that recently came to tentative labor agreements with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. ...
Bargaining units=Union
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A buddy of mine is a Corrections Officer, he's fuming.
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A buddy of mine is a Corrections Officer, he's fuming.
Tough shit--look at his retirement package and tell me he has ANYTHING to bitch about.
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Why not go a step further and hire illegals for $1.15 an hour? With all the sanctuary cities it ought to be a snap.
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And a lot of those lower-end workers are SEIU folks.
Oh, sweet, delicious irony.
IIRC, doesn't affet the union folks... this is a win for the unions, not for the state.
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IIRC, doesn't affet the union folks... this is a win for the unions, not for the state.
The instructions from the Department of Personnel Administration exclude roughly 37,000 state workers in six bargaining units that recently came to tentative labor agreements with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
I'm sure that CA has way more than 37K union members , so some of those cut must be union members.
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I am okay with everyone taking a paycut, starting at the top. I always love how they say that "most" word, which usually means the lowest paid workers anyway, who don't have a lot of control or choice.
You want to cut spending, then start at the top with the federal government. First start by putting our congressman on an hourly wage and make them puch a clock everytime they are "working". Then because they are don't work full-time, they should get part-time benefits. Fred Smith at FedEx cut all his upper management's salary last year, starting with his. Furthermore, he cut his at a higher precent then his management. I especially am impressed with him doing this because he founded that company and built it up from the ground, unlike these people we have in our government who got there by way of a popularity contest.
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According to the San Fran Rag, the number getting a pay cut is 200,000. That's a good start. Of course, the Dim comptroller is fighting it.
SF Gate (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/03/BA8U1E8QJQ.DTL)
The governor has the authority to lower most state workers' pay to the federal minimum wage if a state budget isn't in place, a state appeals court ruled Friday, the second day of California's 2010-11 fiscal year.
The ruling came one day after Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger ordered the state controller to cut pay for about 200,000 state workers to the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/03/BA8U1E8QJQ.DTL#ixzz0slcVhwCM
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What will they do if the employees stop showing up for work?
I think Arnold is off his rocker. :lmao:
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What will they do if the employees stop showing up for work?
I think Arnold is off his rocker. :lmao:
They don't show up, they get fired and replaced with lower paid employees of less seniority.
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They don't show up, they get fired and replaced with lower paid employees of less seniority.
It can't get much lower then min. wage.....just sayin'
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Isn't it nice how Arnold gives them the Federal minimum wage and not the HIGHER CA minimum wage?
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And yet, Arnold still allows the illegal aliens to collect some $1200/ mo for rent, foods stamps, WIC, free medical and some other assorted bennies. Illegals are bankrupting many states, California being the first.
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Isn't it nice how Arnold gives them the Federal minimum wage and not the HIGHER CA minimum wage?
Maybe the higher class "Full time" deadbeats have left the state and now there working on getting rid of the lower class "working poor". Soon the only ones left will be the illegals and the rich movie stars that hire them......perfect communist utopia.
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And yet, Arnold still allows the illegal aliens to collect some $1200/ mo for rent, foods stamps, WIC, free medical and some other assorted bennies. Illegals are bankrupting many states, California being the first.
That sounds like a better deal than social security.
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Who can live on $7.25/hr? I know people do it, but there is no way my husband and I could survive on that kind of income and raise our child. Daycare alone would eat up most of that.
What is the average these state workers are working at now? How much of a paycut will they be taking? Seems he could grandfather the ones that already are working these state jobs in, and set the new wage for newcomers. I don't know. Maybe that is not a good idea either, but I know this would devastate my family financially if we were state workers. I could go work at McDonald's for that.
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You sure can't do it in California. Tennessee, maybe, and a few other places, but definitely not CA.
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Arnold knows this will never happen..
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You sure can't do it in California. Tennessee, maybe, and a few other places, but definitely not CA.
I live in MS, and it would be hard to do it here, and the cost of living sure isn't what it is in other places.
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I live in MS, and it would be hard to do it here, and the cost of living sure isn't what it is in other places.
it's not the gov'ts job to provide a "living wage." Move to the private sector if you can't afford to work for the public sector - that's the way it should be, IMHO.
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it's not the gov'ts job to provide a "living wage." Move to the private sector if you can't afford to work for the public sector - that's the way it should be, IMHO.
It is their job if the people are working for them. And in case you haven't noticed, jobs aren't falling from the sky. A person would probably think twice before leaving a paying job even if the pay sucks. Something is better than nothing.
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It is their job if the people are working for them. And in case you haven't noticed, jobs aren't falling from the sky. A person would probably think twice before leaving a paying job even if the pay sucks. Something is better than nothing.
No... it's NOT their job. Many companies have given pay cuts... why should the gov't be any different?
So you think that just because others are struggling that the gov't should step in and keep paying people money THEY DON'T HAVE????
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Something is better than nothing - exactly - they should quit bitching.
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No... it's NOT their job. Many companies have given pay cuts... why should the gov't be any different?
So you think that just because others are struggling that the gov't should step in and keep paying people money THEY DON'T HAVE????
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Something is better than nothing - exactly - they should quit bitching.
Cutting people's pay when the cost of living continues to go up isn't going to help our economy. And just because something is better than nothing doesn't mean people can't bitch about it. Thankfully, I have no clue what it is like to struggle to keep a roof over my head and my baby fed. I imagine if I did, I might be bitching a little.
And I am not sure why you are laughing. What was funny about what I posted?
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Cutting people's pay when the cost of living continues to go up isn't going to help our economy. And just because something is better than nothing doesn't mean people can't bitch about it. Thankfully, I have no clue what it is like to struggle to keep a roof over my head and my baby fed. I imagine if I did, I might be bitching a little.
And I am not sure why you are laughing. What was funny about what I posted?
Your choice to completley and utterly neglect the use of simple math or logic..
Paying people money that doesn't exist is some how good for economy? :rotf: :rotf:
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Your choice to completley and utterly neglect the use of simple math or logic..
Paying people money that doesn't exist is some how good for economy? :rotf: :rotf:
I am not neglecting anything at all. And I am certainly not going to neglect our citizens who need to survive.
And please explain how cutting these wages, while many people won't be able to survive on it, is going to be good for the economy.
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I am not neglecting anything at all. And I am certainly not going to neglect our citizens who need to survive.
Oh FFS... if that's the case, please send me $1K/month... I'm a citizen, I need it to survive. :whatever:
And please explain how cutting these wages, while many people won't be able to survive on it, is going to be good for the economy.
Answer me, I'll answer you.
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Oh FFS... if that's the case, please send me $1K/month... I'm a citizen, I need it to survive. :whatever:
Answer me, I'll answer you.
The budget needs to be reworked. Cut costs elsewhere. I understand most states are in a budget crisis, but the budget must be reworked and soon. This could put people out of their homes.
And no need to be sarcastic. I am trying to have a civil discussion.
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The pay cut would likely be short term, as it would only be in effect until the Dems get a budget passed onto Ahnold's desk for him to sign. More than likely everyone affected would receive back pay once the budget is passed.
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That's a win for the unions.