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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on July 01, 2010, 10:38:26 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8660533
Oh my.
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-29-10 10:04 PM
#04 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE SUBWAY CAT
Original message
petrochemical chicken nuggets & not lovin' it.
CNN has revealed that the fast-food chain makes this popular menu item with the chemical preservative tBHQ, tertiary butylhydroquinone, a petroleum-based product. Mcnuggets also contain dimethylpolysiloxane, "an anti-foaming agent" also used in Silly Putty.
Read more:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfmoms/detail?entry...
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-29-10 10:06 PM
#02 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE NEMESIS OF THE BOSTONIAN DRUNKARD
Response to Original message
1. OMFG!!!!
Where the HELL are the regulations?!
And the RW wants to take away all the rest of the tattered regulations??
This is beyond SICK.
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-29-10 10:14 PM
#02 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE SUBWAY CAT
Response to Reply #1
3. poor food ya know..
and some people on du still wag puritanical fingers and lecture people about'dietary choices'.What if the options for the poor that they can afford are full of shit like this?
poverty and overweight are interrelated factors ..coinkidink?
psst...not.
Mimosa (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-29-10 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. Petroleum-in any distortion- doesn't belong in food
I don't judge people by what they eat. Many may think 'chicken' is just that.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-30-10 12:53 PM
#02 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE NEMESIS OF THE BOSTONIAN DRUNKARD
Response to Reply #6
16. Yeah, silly us... we think chicken is just that.
Thank you for the lack of judgement toward those of us without many choices. I probably will not read the rest of this thread, because that is exactly what it will be.... judgement after ignorant judgement.
I hope that you or someone can speak back to some of this ignorance.
Thank you.
redqueen (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-30-10 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #16
29. Well obviously we're just dumb as hell.
And so who should bother giving a **** about us, really...
SunnySong (617 posts) Thu Jul-01-10 12:28 AM
Response to Reply #6
41. How about antioxidants to prevent vegetable oil from spoiling.
since that is what you are protesting.
flvegan (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-29-10 10:11 PM
Response to Original message
2. Crap contains crap.
Anyone that hits a McDs and thinks they're eating food is likely mistaken, depending on what they order.
McNuggets. What an abomination.
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-29-10 10:24 PM
#02 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE SUBWAY CAT
Response to Reply #2
4. Nuggets of crap are abominations I agree,..But sometimes crap foods are all people can afford.You see suffering through skimpy paycheck by paycheck existing with minimal$$$ to spare on anything is a market niche these nuggets of garbage are designed to fill. Mc donalds marketing hacks know lot of people in this country are living hectic lives, barely scrape by.. and some are starving and homeless. Some jobs are time stingy fifteen or ten minutes to lunch to cram it down before they must get back to work.Some employers are inhuman in their demands,and pay nearly nothing.Greed for profit at any cost is the real abomination that made crap food profitable and cheap enough to get rid of hunger pangs in bellies that lead to overturning of the rule of the wealthy,and crap food slowly kill the poor at the same time... such social darwinist efficiency could only come from the rich and psychopathic...
eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-29-10 10:29 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. they'd be better off eating a baked potato or beans and rice
much cheaper in the long run , and no disgusting additives.
Mimosa (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-29-10 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. One reason the poor are fat are the starches, alas.
Any time I've eaten lots of beans and rice -which I love and know how to cook from my hispanic/native american background- I've gained wait. The rich can stay slimmer because they can afford high quality protein, vegs and fruits.
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-29-10 11:06 PM
#02 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE SUBWAY CAT
Response to Reply #7
8. beans and rice..starch
and pesticides and genetically modified.heaaalllthy.maybe the toxins in the rice and beans..weredamaging your body &made you fat too..
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-30-10 02:19 PM
#02 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE NEMESIS OF THE BOSTONIAN DRUNKARD
Response to Reply #8
17. You are exactly right, but "liberals" aren't gonna wanna hear you.
Because that means we are ALL responsible for making sure the food in this nation is healthy for ALL!
Thank you for all of this..,.,, I am working on a local program, and am including your information here.
Excellent!
Javaman (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-30-10 10:51 AM
Response to Reply #7
14. technically yes, but it's more just a basic lack of good nutrition.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-30-10 02:39 PM
#02 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE NEMESIS OF THE BOSTONIAN DRUNKARD
Response to Reply #7
20. You are so right! Good nutrition is more expensive, and usually requires more preparation, which not everyone has access to.
It also requires time, and those who work 2 jobs and raise kids have no time to spare.
But so many don't want to know that.
Thank you for posting your experience!
It's a really big bonfire, blazing away.
The bobbling primitive, the Nemesis of the Bostonian Drunkard, adds a lot of cheer to the campfire.
The campfire just blazes on and on and on and on.....
Initech (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-29-10 11:31 PM
Response to Original message
11. Man if the McNuggets contain that shit, what does the rest of the menu hold secret?
SunnySong (617 posts) Thu Jul-01-10 12:10 AM
Response to Reply #11
36. So mcNuggets contain a common food additive used by Vegans.
Seriously do big words just scare you?
Codeine (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-30-10 03:49 PM
Response to Original message
25. Reading this thread has convinced me that some people have a need - a craving - to feel helpless, and to make sure others are cast in the same helpless role.
I've been dirt-damned poor for much of my life and even homeless for about a year. During that time I didn't eat at ****ing McDonald's or other fast food places because they cost too much. while homeless, for the cost of two decent-sized McD's meals I could get fixings for PBJs, a bag of carrots, and a couple bananas that I could shove in my backpack, all from a convenience store.
Other times, when I had an apartment, I could get rice and beans and inexpensive veggies like potatoes and yams for even less and have huge, filling meals for essentially pennies. Most people are not helpless, just dumb as hell about food.
Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-01-10 12:11 AM
Response to Reply #25
37. Nice broad-brush attack on the poor.
Codeine (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-01-10 12:12 AM
Response to Reply #37
38. Not so.
Ignorance about food extends to every socioeconomic group. I know plenty of well-off people who eat shit and filth all day.
cali (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-01-10 04:22 AM
#13 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE BITTER OLD VERMONTESE CALI PRIMITIVE
Response to Reply #37
48. it is not.
and the poster is quite right. Most people in this country- not just the poor- are dumb about food.
Silent3 (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-01-10 12:43 AM
Response to Original message
45. If you did a full chemical analysis of the purest...
...organic carrots or soy beans or whatever other "natural" food you want to name, you'd find they were full of, yes, CHEMICALS!!! Chemicals with big, long, scary hard-to-pronounce names too.
What does it matter if something is a petroleum product? Is that particularly automatically worse than a shit and dirt product (i.e. organically grown vegetables grown with natural fertilizer)?
The only advantage so-called "natural" and "organic" foods have is they are a bit more likely to contain fewer items that our bodies have evolved to tolerate. It's just a shift in the odds, however, not an automatic guarantee that NATURAL = GOOD, ARTIFICIAL = BAAAAADDD!!!
Avoid tertiary butylhydroquinone if you wish, it certainly isn't likely to harm you not to consume it, but please, spare us the ZOMG!!!! PETROLEUM PRODUCT!!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!! panic attack until there's data showing tBHQ is harmful.
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Hmmmmm........I'm amazed they still listen to the "homeless harpy"! Lately she has been getting castigated for being such a downer!
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What kind of toxins and chemicals in undergroundpanther burgers?
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What kind of toxins and chemicals in undergroundpanther burgers?
Paraffin and tattoo ink!
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Always nice to see these idiots arguing over things they don't have to buy. But that's not enough for them, they don't want other people to buy them either. Bunch of control freaks, a/k/a liberals.
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I want to see a fight between DUmmy Codeine and DUmmy bobo the hobo about who's had it rougher being homeless. :evillaugh:
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What kind of toxins and chemicals in undergroundpanther burgers?
A compound with the chemical name "ALL."
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A compound with the chemical name "ALL."
Hey wait just a damn minute! I don't have anything to do with panthers, unless they're in my 7mm Mag's gun sites!
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-30-10 02:39 PM
#02 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE NEMESIS OF THE BOSTONIAN DRUNKARD
I like
#02 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; VANQUISHER OF THE BOSTONIAN DRUNKARD
better. :-)
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I like
#02 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; VANQUISHER OF THE BOSTONIAN DRUNKARD
better. :-)
You know, I missed that--the expulsion of the sweaty flaccid greasy Bostonian Drunkard from Skins's island--and I can't find in the "search function" here (w-a-a-a-a-a-y too many pages, although I did go through half of them).
Does anyone remember about when that was, that my fellow alum Skins five years too late booted the pudgy greasy middle-aged trust-fund kid?
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Frank, you are back! :-)
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You know, I missed that--the expulsion of the sweaty flaccid greasy Bostonian Drunkard from Skins's island--and I can't find in the "search function" here (w-a-a-a-a-a-y too many pages, although I did go through half of them).
Does anyone remember about when that was, that my fellow alum Skins five years too late booted the pudgy greasy middle-aged trust-fund kid?
Here ya go Frank...
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,43944.0.html
It was in the DUmping Ground.
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You know, I missed that--the expulsion of the sweaty flaccid greasy Bostonian Drunkard from Skins's island--and I can't find in the "search function" here (w-a-a-a-a-a-y too many pages, although I did go through half of them).
Does anyone remember about when that was, that my fellow alum Skins five years too late booted the pudgy greasy middle-aged trust-fund kid?
Wee Willie got his thong in a wad one evening when Bobo made a comment about his Mommy. He twisted off and in his blind rage at everyone and everything he threatened to kill Bobo. He later claimed he didn't know she was a woman. Like that would make any difference, but hey it's the Pittster and he is a DUmmie after all.
Check Dummiefunnies, they covered it with the screen caps posted up here because Herr Skinners Storm Troopers tried to scrub up the carnage after it all went down.
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Someone with a mole to burn should enlighten them to the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide in pretty much everything they eat and drink. :rotf:
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Here ya go Frank...
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,43944.0.html
It was in the DUmping Ground.
Thank you, sir.
I read it all, every word, and what a joyous sensation.
It's true that the greasy flaccid boryborygmous Bostonian Drunkard provided us with a lot of laughs over the years, but on the other hand, there's lots and lots of people like him in real life, and best that the Bostonian Drunkard's now history.
I'm betting the Bostonian Drunkard wins the overall Primitive award this year, in December.
The one that the lying tits primitive won last year.
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So the subway kitty doesn't like artificial ingredients - yet artificial is the best way to describe her life... Freud & Jung would have interesting things to say about this.
But so would any of the world's most renowned psychologists/psychiatrists - living or dead.
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-29-10 10:14 PM
#02 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE SUBWAY CAT
Response to Reply #1
3. poor food ya know..
and some people on du still wag puritanical fingers and lecture people about'dietary choices'.What if the options for the poor that they can afford are full of shit like this?
poverty and overweight are interrelated factors ..coinkidink?
Buying fast food is the LEAST economical method to purchase by magnitudes of order. For the price of a McNugget 12-pack, you can buy a pound of fresh uncooked chicken, fry it in a little oil or non-stick spray, a little seasoning, and have three times the amount of food, clean protein, no chemicals.
If a person is a welfare slug, like YOU, they have zero business buying fast food!
The reason the welfare poor are fat is because they buy take-out and dinner in a box. The most fattening, least nutritional food on the market.
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-30-10 02:39 PM
#02 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE NEMESIS OF THE BOSTONIAN DRUNKARD
Response to Reply #7
20. You are so right! Good nutrition is more expensive, and usually requires more preparation, which not everyone has access to.
It also requires time, and those who work 2 jobs and raise kids have no time to spare.
DUmbBoLink lamenting over those that work 2 jobs and raise kids?! You mean someone that takes responsibility for one's RESPONSIBILITIES? This coming from another purposely homeless welfare slug living out of her car with an iPhone and daily library Internet access?
WOW!!
Goldy
Silvery
Irony!
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What kind of toxins and chemicals in undergroundpanther burgers?
Psychotropic drugs, hundreds of psychotropic drugs "with big, long, scary hard-to-pronounce names too"!
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-30-10 02:39 PM
#02 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE NEMESIS OF THE BOSTONIAN DRUNKARD
Response to Reply #7
20. You are so right! Good nutrition is more expensive, and usually requires more preparation, which not everyone has access to.
It also requires time, and those who work 2 jobs and raise kids have no time to spare.
Oh :bs:!
I worked 2 and 3 jobs at a time and was a single mother. We did not eat crap from fast food placed. That was not in the budget. For the $5 that it would have cost for a fast food meal I could make a healthy dinner that would feed us that day as well as the next.
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I don't like stereotypes, but in a lot of them there is a kernel of truth.
...and for many people (not all) , fat goes together with lazy.
Too lazy to work.
Too lazy to exercise.
Too lazy to cook for themselves.
So, there are poor folks, who are too lazy to take any job to keep food on the table. They are too lazy to cook, so they buy fast food or microwave dinners full of starch, fat, additives and low-quality meats. They get fat (or fatter) from eating these foods, and so the food is to blame - not the lazy lifestyle that the person lives that makes getting fat easy.. No-no-no.. Can't blame yourself, can you ? Always someone else's fault...
Again, thats not everybody, some are genetically predisposed to put on pounds, and they have to work extra hard to keep it off - hell, I could lose more myself... but I digress..
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I make fresh tomatoe sauce and pastina for my baby girl...It's her favorite milk...and costs about 1.00 to make.
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-30-10 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #16
29. Well obviously we're just dumb as hell.
And so who should bother giving a **** about us, really...
Redqueen said exactly what I was thinking!!!
Just to clarify - is Bobbolink really homeless? Seriously? That must be one of those things she revealed quietly and only once or twice because I had NO idea she was homeless. Maybe she needs to discuss the issues homeless people face and discuss it often; otherwise, no one would ever know she is homeless. I'm sure it's through no fault of her own, either.
:sarcasm:
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Redqueen said exactly what I was thinking!!!
Just to clarify - is Bobbolink really homeless? Seriously? That must be one of those things she revealed quietly and only once or twice because I had NO idea she was homeless. Maybe she needs to discuss the issues homeless people face and discuss it often; otherwise, no one would ever know she is homeless. I'm sure it's through no fault of her own, either.
:sarcasm:
Oh frack, she is the poster child for the homeless! The ONLY reason she triumphs her homeless plight is because that gives her an 'E' ticket to the taxpayer free ride!
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Oh frack, she is the poster child for the homeless! The ONLY reason she triumphs her homeless plight is because that gives her an 'E' ticket to the taxpayer free ride!
Yep, a true to the word DUmpster DIver! lol!
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So only poor people eat chicken nuggets because "that's all they can afford." BULLSHIT.
That's what LAZY people chose to eat because they don't want to take the time to shop in the produce section of their local market. They'd rather pull up to a speaker box and order a 1,500 calorie meal.
And then bitch about how obese the country is... etc....
Do I need to continue?
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So only poor people eat chicken nuggets because "that's all they can afford." BULLSHIT.
That's what LAZY people chose to eat because they don't want to take the time to shop in the produce section of their local market. They'd rather pull up to a speaker box and order a 1,500 calorie meal.
And then bitch about how obese the country is... etc....
Do I need to continue?
You do realize it's UP bitchin' right? Logic is not even in her vocabulary!
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It is amazing how most of the world's poor subsist on rice and beans, or some other high carbohydrate staple, and yet American is pretty much the only country where a large number of the poor are obese. Yes, if you gorge yourself on rice and beans you will gain weight, but if you eat a reasonable amount it is no worse than any other food, other than being low in vitamins. We have the best fed poor in the world, and nutritious food is easy to come by.
Trader Joes has Bananas on sale 10 cents a piece every other week or so, you can a month's worth of oatmeal for about $4. Our supermarkets are full of low cost food that is more nutritious than McD's.
I have no problem with a burger now and then, but they should not be a staple in anybody's diet. Evil_Conservative is right, it is laziness that has them getting Chicken nuggets and fries for dinner instead of rice and chicken, or beans if money is really tight, cooked at home.
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It is amazing how most of the world's poor subsist on rice and beans, or some other high carbohydrate staple, and yet American is pretty much the only country where a large number of the poor are obese. Yes, if you gorge yourself on rice and beans you will gain weight, but if you eat a reasonable amount it is no worse than any other food, other than being low in vitamins. We have the best fed poor in the world, and nutritious food is easy to come by.
Trader Joes has Bananas on sale 10 cents a piece every other week or so, you can a month's worth of oatmeal for about $4. Our supermarkets are full of low cost food that is more nutritious than McD's.
I have no problem with a burger now and then, but they should not be a staple in anybody's diet. Evil_Conservative is right, it is laziness that has them getting Chicken nuggets and fries for dinner instead of rice and chicken, or beans if money is really tight, cooked at home.
America's poor are fat, lousy, miserable, lazy, and destitute for two reasons:
1: They have bought into the victim hood ideology of the Democrat party.
2: They are mentally weak enough for #1 above to take hold.
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So only poor people eat chicken nuggets because "that's all they can afford." BULLSHIT.
That's what LAZY people chose to eat because they don't want to take the time to shop in the produce section of their local market. They'd rather pull up to a speaker box and order a 1,500 calorie meal.
And then bitch about how obese the country is... etc....
Do I need to continue?
+100!
Easy - shop the outer perimeter of the grocery store. That is where you will find the fresh bakery, produce, meats, and dairy. The inner isles are where you find the carb laden "dinner in a box" garbage.
Except for ice cream and ketchup which is mandatory for most sane people! :-)
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I make fresh tomatoe sauce and pastina for my baby girl...It's her favorite milk...and costs about 1.00 to make.
Can I be your baby girl...or Huckleberry...either one...I don't mind? :tongue:
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It is amazing how most of the world's poor subsist on rice and beans, or some other high carbohydrate staple, and yet American is pretty much the only country where a large number of the poor are obese. Yes, if you gorge yourself on rice and beans you will gain weight, but if you eat a reasonable amount it is no worse than any other food, other than being low in vitamins. We have the best fed poor in the world, and nutritious food is easy to come by.
Trader Joes has Bananas on sale 10 cents a piece every other week or so, you can a month's worth of oatmeal for about $4. Our supermarkets are full of low cost food that is more nutritious than McD's.
I have no problem with a burger now and then, but they should not be a staple in anybody's diet. Evil_Conservative is right, it is laziness that has them getting Chicken nuggets and fries for dinner instead of rice and chicken, or beans if money is really tight, cooked at home.
My local supermarket has marked down meat all the time. It will hit it's expiration date in the next few days so they mark it down to move it. I buy it all up and freeze it. I think it's funny how the ones with the food stamp card pass it over all the time for the full price stuff. But I guess it is easy eating high on the hog with someone elses money.
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+100!
Easy - shop the outer perimeter of the grocery store. That is where you will find the fresh bakery, produce, meats, and dairy. The inner isles are where you find the carb laden "dinner in a box" garbage.
Except for ice cream and ketchup which is mandatory for most sane people! :-)
Don't forget the Mac & Cheese! My grandkids couldn't live without it!
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My local supermarket has marked down meat all the time. It will hit it's expiration date in the next few days so they mark it down to move it. I buy it all up and freeze it. I think it's funny how the ones with the food stamp card pass it over all the time for the full price stuff. But I guess it is easy eating high on the hog with someone elses money.
When making a meal with meat or chicken, I try to go to the store the day I am making the meal and buying the meat that is expiring. The markdowns help save the bucks.
After my daughter was born, we were on one income for four months and then I was under employed for two months following. We NEVER went to McD's as a "cheap" alternative. We checked the ads at all stores, used coupons, and bought only what was on sale. We still do. We buy store brand if it's cheaper... which it almost always is.
Driving past fast food places usually makes me want to barf. Subway is as far as "fast food" I can go these days.