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Title: The Real Obama Economic Plan: Overwhelming the System to Destroy Capitalism and Freedom.
Post by: Mona Lisa on June 22, 2010, 10:30:29 PM
I hope that I am posting this in the correct forum. 

Herewith is the email:

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WAYNE ALLYN ROOT: Overwhelm the system

Barack Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is
brilliant. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is purposely overwhelming
the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social
chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within.

Barack Obama is my college classmate (Columbia University, class of '83). As
Glenn Beck correctly predicted from day one, Obama is following the plan of
Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University. They outlined a plan
to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and
entitlement demands. Add up the clues below. Taken individually they're
alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to
turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent
majority that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be
counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no
responsibility to pay for it.

-- Universal health care. The health care bill had very little to do with
health care.? It had everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital
and health care workers, as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents
(who will join government employee unions). Obama doesn't care that giving
free health care to 30 million Americans will add trillions to the national
debt. What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of those 30
million voters to Democrats and big government. Who but a socialist
revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill in the middle of a
depression?

-- Cap and trade. Like health care legislation having nothing to do with
health care, cap and trade has nothing to do with global warming. It has
everything to do with redistribution of income, government control of the
economy and a criminal payoff to Obama's biggest contributors.
<SNIP>
http://www.rootforamerica.com/blog/index.php?entry=entry100508-212223

My question:
Is all of this true and substantiated fact?  Thank you.
Title: Re: The Real Obama Economic Plan: Overwhelming the System to Destroy Capitalism and Freedom.
Post by: Chris on June 22, 2010, 10:47:26 PM
Those are the methods that Cloward, Piven, and Alinsky formulated and the same ones Obama taught while he pretended to be a college professor, so yes, you could say it is true for the most part.

The Cloward-Piven Strategy of Orchestrated Crisis (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,16216.0.html)
MSNBC Shows Obama Teaching Alinsky's "Power Anaylsis" (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,45492.0.html)

I have moved your post to the appropriate forum and provided a link to Mr. Root's original posting with a credit to him.  Your post has been edited to comply with Fair Use rules... please excerpt three to five paragraphs only when quoting an article written by a source other than yourself.

Welcome to CC. :)
Title: Re: The Real Obama Economic Plan: Overwhelming the System to Destroy Capitalism and Freedom.
Post by: Duke Nukum on June 22, 2010, 10:54:47 PM
I actually think that Obama is only a cog in the machine and that the overwhelming of the economy started in 2008.  Well, it started long before that, but it started to come to fruition with the debt crisis of '08.

Remember when the market fell 777 points when the TARP failed to pass?  That was whoever is behind this sending a message.  Obama is relatively unimportant.  He's Johnny Bravo.  He fits the suit.  Not that he isn't for the agenda but it is something going on before he even entered politics.
Title: Re: The Real Obama Economic Plan: Overwhelming the System to Destroy Capitalism and Freedom.
Post by: zeitgeist on June 23, 2010, 06:45:53 AM
I actually think that Obama is only a cog in the machine and that the overwhelming of the economy started in 2008.  Well, it started long before that, but it started to come to fruition with the debt crisis of '08.

Remember when the market fell 777 points when the TARP failed to pass?  That was whoever is behind this sending a message.  Obama is relatively unimportant.  He's Johnny Bravo.  He fits the suit.  Not that he isn't for the agenda but it is something going on before he even entered politics.

Sounds about right.  Of course when you control the language it is convenient to be able to paint as "racist", "birther", "greedy","cazy teabagger", choose your term, to further marginalize and deamonize the opposition.  Give them enough rope.  (We would sell the commies the rope they would use for our hanging is the way I remember it ). 

I can just see the NRA mailing list used for the gun round up.  All the gold bugs?  Wait until they see what is in store for them.  The rules have changed, FDR is back.

Now I need to find my hat. :tinfoil2:


Title: Re: The Real Obama Economic Plan: Overwhelming the System to Destroy Capitalism and Freedom.
Post by: vesta111 on June 23, 2010, 08:16:56 AM
Sounds about right.  Of course when you control the language it is convenient to be able to paint as "racist", "birther", "greedy","cazy teabagger", choose your term, to further marginalize and deamonize the opposition.  Give them enough rope.  (We would sell the commies the rope they would use for our hanging is the way I remember it ). 

I can just see the NRA mailing list used for the gun round up.  All the gold bugs?  Wait until they see what is in store for them.  The rules have changed, FDR is back.

Now I need to find my hat. :tinfoil2:


In my state all the government needs to do is to demand the records from the police on who in the last 20 years has bought a gun from a dealer after a police check.  Don't forget the federal licencing needed for some weapons that collectors bought that are not covered by State law.

Zeit,  I am of the openion that the gun laws we have don't mean a thing to the government as long as the gun owners are flying solo.  We saw what happend in Katarina when the State police were afraid to go into areas that were gang controlled.  We see what is going on in the southern states that have no control over the illegal gangs that band together. 


Title: Re: The Real Obama Economic Plan: Overwhelming the System to Destroy Capitalism and Freedom.
Post by: zeitgeist on June 24, 2010, 10:23:16 AM
In my state all the government needs to do is to demand the records from the police on who in the last 20 years has bought a gun from a dealer after a police check.  Don't forget the federal licencing needed for some weapons that collectors bought that are not covered by State law.

Zeit,  I am of the openion that the gun laws we have don't mean a thing to the government as long as the gun owners are flying solo.  We saw what happend in Katarina when the State police were afraid to go into areas that were gang controlled.  We see what is going on in the southern states that have no control over the illegal gangs that band together. 




Vesta when you get a chance go take a look at this thread and highlight all of the goals which you feel have been accomplished since this speech in 1963.  I remember arguing long into the night with my mother in those days telling her how wrong her world view was. I mean she actually believed this stuff.  Imagine that.  When I went away to college I was still convinced mom was wrong.  It took quite some time before I learned how right my mother had been about liberals. They are by and large a pretty worthless bunch of noise, a collection of useful idiots with self aggrandized ideas.  They all think they are "above average" but over the years have been so dumbed down by the public education system as to be herd-able like sheep.  To a liberal an original idea is to follow the union steward or ward healer.  This is why we are going down the toilet.  Who was right, LBJ or Barry Goldwater?  Who did the commies fear most?  How about Tail Gunner Joe?  Right or wrong??  It just goes on and on.  Back then it was the crazy Birtcher's, remember them?  Turns out they weren't so crazy after all.


 

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