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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ptarmigan on June 21, 2010, 10:59:36 PM

Title: Were the Columbine shootings an act of Christian Terrorism?
Post by: Ptarmigan on June 21, 2010, 10:59:36 PM
That's the stupidest thing I have heard. Harris and Klebold were not Christians and were likely anti-Christian. They would be considered radical leftists who likely had grievances with Timothy McVeigh/Terry Nichols, Ramzi Yousef, and Ted Kaczynski going to the slammer.

http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2010/06/03/were-the-columbine-shootings-an-act-of-christian-terrorism/

Here is what they thought about Christians.

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Dylan: “I don’t like you, Rachel and Jen, you’re stuck up little bitches, you’re ****ing little.. Christian, Godly little whores!”

Eric: “Yeah.. ‘I love Jesus! I love Jesus!’ — shut the **** up!”

Dylan: “What would Jesus do? What the **** would I do..?” (he acts like he’s shooting the camera with his hand, with sound to accompany it)

Eric: “I would shoot you in the mother****ing head! Go Romans! Thank God they crucified that asshole.”

Eric and Dylan: “Go Romans!” “Go Romans!!” “Yeah!!” “Wooo!”

http://www.verumserum.com/?p=1068

Sounds like anti-Christians to me. I wonder what they thought about Osama bin Laden and Islamists?
Title: Re: Were the Columbine shootings an act of Christian Terrorism?
Post by: bkg on June 22, 2010, 09:56:04 AM
There's another board I frequent where a very opinionated, black-and-white individual (no, it's not me...) has started a thread counting the number of terrorist attacks (and people killed) that have the MO of an islamist-extremist killing in the name of Allah...

this person has asked for people to post ANY evidence of people killed in the name of Jesus in the 21st century.

SOME people believe that if you are white and in America, that by definition you are a Christian and therefore killing in the name of Jesus. No one has posted any evidence of someone killing while referencing Christ.
Title: Re: Were the Columbine shootings an act of Christian Terrorism?
Post by: Tucker on June 22, 2010, 12:39:16 PM
There's another board I frequent where a very opinionated, black-and-white individual (no, it's not me...) has started a thread counting the number of terrorist attacks (and people killed) that have the MO of an islamist-extremist killing in the name of Allah...

this person has asked for people to post ANY evidence of people killed in the name of Jesus in the 21st century.

SOME people believe that if you are white and in America, that by definition you are a Christian and therefore killing in the name of Jesus. No one has posted any evidence of someone killing while referencing Christ.

The killer of Tiller would come close. The irony being that he was shot in church.

I didn't lose any sleep over it though.
Title: Re: Were the Columbine shootings an act of Christian Terrorism?
Post by: vesta111 on June 23, 2010, 08:47:01 AM
The killer of Tiller would come close. The irony being that he was shot in church.

I didn't lose any sleep over it though.

I do loose sleep over wondering why there are just a very few who under the States laws can perform these barbaric procedures of killing a baby that is viable and only a few centimeters from entering the world.

Were a dentist, foot doctor or a chiropractor to do this they would face murder charges.       Of all the Doctors in this country, why are just a few licensed to kill a baby outside the womb.??

Once a baby is outside the womb inside the birth channel they are no longer featuses,

This is no longer just tissue, this is a human headed hell bent toward independence of the Host.

Tucker this drives me nuts,  Baby's can be saved at 4 1/2 months by to days medical advancements. 

I also understand that the medical problems of the mother or father may cause a fetus to to not form properly, no brain stem or missing body organs.  An abortion at that time very early in the pregnancy I feel is called for.  No woman should have to as in the past have to carry a dead baby 9 months.

Here is the question, why would any woman wish to carry a healthy child for 8-9 months wish to have the baby destroyed at the moment of birth ???


Title: Re: Were the Columbine shootings an act of Christian Terrorism?
Post by: Tucker on June 23, 2010, 08:55:10 AM
Let me be clear. I didn't lose any sleep over Tiller's death. He got what he deserved.
Title: Re: Were the Columbine shootings an act of Christian Terrorism?
Post by: Thor on June 23, 2010, 09:36:25 AM
Anybody that would even attempt to associate Kliebold & Harris with Christianity is simply insane. That said, there have been plenty of killings in the name of Christianity. Not so much in the last Century, but just the same, they were in the name of Christianity.
Title: Re: Were the Columbine shootings an act of Christian Terrorism?
Post by: Crazy Horse on June 23, 2010, 05:38:17 PM
Anybody that would even attempt to associate Kliebold & Harris with Christianity is simply insane.

Hello................did you see who the hell started this thread???????????

Though you are correct
Title: Re: Were the Columbine shootings an act of Christian Terrorism?
Post by: MrsSmith on June 23, 2010, 06:17:15 PM
I do loose sleep over wondering why there are just a very few who under the States laws can perform these barbaric procedures of killing a baby that is viable and only a few centimeters from entering the world.

Were a dentist, foot doctor or a chiropractor to do this they would face murder charges.       Of all the Doctors in this country, why are just a few licensed to kill a baby outside the womb.??

Once a baby is outside the womb inside the birth channel they are no longer featuses,

This is no longer just tissue, this is a human headed hell bent toward independence of the Host.

Tucker this drives me nuts,  Baby's can be saved at 4 1/2 months by to days medical advancements. 

I also understand that the medical problems of the mother or father may cause a fetus to to not form properly, no brain stem or missing body organs.  An abortion at that time very early in the pregnancy I feel is called for.  No woman should have to as in the past have to carry a dead baby 9 months.

Here is the question, why would any woman wish to carry a healthy child for 8-9 months wish to have the baby destroyed at the moment of birth ???



Vesta, most of the late term abortions Tiller did were on babies with some sort of defect.  Of the articles I've read, I've seen stories from mothers that did not want to raise Downs kids, and from mothers that did not want the medical bills associated with pre-birth repair of heart defects.  Of course, there have also been stories about mothers that didn't want to carry 2 or 3 at one time, so had only some of their babies killed.  And even stories of mothers that had twins, one Downs and one normal...and the abortionist killed the "wrong" one first, so they then had the "defective" one killed also. 

I've read stories about women that didn't know how far along they were, until after the abortion, when the living baby started crying...and how those living babies were then wrapped up and placed in "soiled utility rooms" until they died...sometimes many, many hours later.

There are also stories about the very few that survived saline abortions...in which the child is normally burned to death by salt...and were eventually saved by nurses that just could not stand the thought of that little life suffering any more.

Tiller supposedly did not have the problem of accidently delivering live babies...his method included using ultrasound technology to guide a needle into the baby's heart and inject Digoxin.  (This is a drug that literally causes the heart muscle to contract hard enough to tear and shred itself...and this was supposed to be a kind way to abort!!!!)  I have never heard of him delivering a living child, but I did hear an interview in which he was obviously unaware of the recent law that forces abortionists to give aid to babies born alive.

As for the idea that a woman must carry a dead infant for 9 months...absolutely false.  In EVERY medical facility, an infant that has died can be delivered in whatever method is safest for the mother at that stage of pregnancy.  Even Catholic hospitals will not force a mother to continue to carry a dead child...though they will make very sure the child IS dead.

The truly heinous practice of partial-birth abortion is the one in which a "doctor" will deliver a child breech, and then use suction to remove the child's brain and collapse the child's skull before completing the delivery (until recently, that would be legal because the child was dead before he or she was separate from the mother.)  This was actually hailed by some as a "safer way" to abort a late-term fetus...and one that allows for the child's skull to be "re-inflated" for the mother's comfort if she wishes to grieve the death.   It's my understanding that these abortions were only performed for Serious Medical Conditions...but given the propensity of women and Tiller to consider Downs a Serious Medical Condition,  it truly seems that just delivering a living child would be the correct way to handle any situation in which partial-birth would be considered.