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Title: Supreme Court rejects firing squad appeal
Post by: cavegal on June 17, 2010, 09:40:41 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37759499/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/ 

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updated 12 minutes ago

SALT LAKE CITY - Utah is set to execute a condemned killer by firing squad shortly after midnight Thursday, reviving an old West style of justice that hasn't been used for 14 years and that many criticize as archaic.

Barring the success of a final appeal, Ronnie Lee Gardner will be strapped into a chair, have a target pinned over his heart and die in a hail of bullets from five anonymous marksmen armed with .30-caliber rifles and firing from behind a ported wa
 

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Gardner first came to the attention of authorities at age 2 as he was found walking alone on a street clad only in a diaper. At age 6 he became addicted to sniffing gasoline and glue. Harder drugs — LSD and heroin — followed by age 10. By then Gardner was tagging along with his stepfather as a lookout on robberies, according to court documents.

After spending 18 months in a state mental hospital and being sexually abused in a foster home, he killed Otterstrom at age 23. About six months later, at 24, he shot Burdell in the face as the attorney hid behind a door in the courthous
Title: Re: Supreme Court rejects firing squad appeal
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on June 17, 2010, 10:03:26 PM
Some people never stood a chance.
Title: Re: Supreme Court rejects firing squad appeal
Post by: NHSparky on June 18, 2010, 06:31:15 AM
Like the lawyer he shot in the face?

Sorry, this guy picked firing squad because he was likely told it would never be carried out.

He was wrong, as were his lawyers.
Title: Re: Supreme Court rejects firing squad appeal
Post by: vesta111 on June 18, 2010, 07:43:37 AM
Some people never stood a chance.

The deed has been done, he unlike his victim had a choice of how he was to die.

I do not cry for him and his life, at some time he had a chance to straighten out his life I am sure.  He just ignored the people that must have tried to save him and
lived and died by his own rules.

We have all  spoken to Adults  with or without our knowledge that were raised under much worse circumstances and are productive members of society today.

If his youth was so horrid then how can you explain the actions of people that were raised in loving homes, family's that sacrificed to give their children every advantage.?  Two parent family's that expected their children to grow into responsible adults .??  Like the Beetles song " a Day in the Life of a Man" who can explain those that become well educated, raise a family, are active in their comunity and one day commit suicide or wipe out their family with an ax.??

People that are greedy, selfish and cannot have compassion for others will find an excuse for their actions.  Their only thoughts are for themselves and if caught doing wrong,  Any excuse will do ---Grandma made me be in house before dark, my uncle looked at me odd, I think he must have molested me. ETC.

Those who have lived a life of hell that we Americans do not want to think about happening overseas are so greatfull to get out of that life when they get here that they are greatfull for the chance to live unmolested and work for the good things in life.

There are very few things that can happen to children in America that can be worse then what happens to children elsewhere in the world.

The difference is in America the abused kids can at some time make a choice as how to live as an adult.
Title: UPDATE :Re: Supreme Court rejects firing squad appeal
Post by: cavegal on June 18, 2010, 12:23:50 PM
Utah firing squad executes convicted killer

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_UTAH_FIRING_SQUAD?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-06-18-02-24-31 

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DRAPER, Utah (AP) -- A death row inmate who had used a gun to fatally shoot two men suffered the same fate Friday morning as he was executed by a team of marksmen - the first time Utah used the firing squad to carry out a death sentence in 14 years.

A barrage of bullets tore into Ronnie Lee Gardner's chest where a target was pinned over his heart. Two minutes later an ashen Gardner, blood pooling in his dark blue jumpsuit, was pronounced dead at 12:17 a.m.

He was the third man to die by firing squad since the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated capital punishment in 1976.

Unlike Gary Gilmore, who famously uttered the last words "Let's do it" on Jan. 17, 1977, Gardner could muster few words before a black hood was fastened over his head. Asked if he had anything to say during the two minutes afforded him, Gardner said simply, "I do not, no."

The five executioners, certified police offi


Title: Re: Supreme Court rejects firing squad appeal
Post by: BlueStateSaint on June 18, 2010, 03:05:37 PM
IIRC, the Utah law specifies that Winchester .30-30s must be used.  That round will definitely do the job.
Title: Re: Supreme Court rejects firing squad appeal
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on June 18, 2010, 03:47:02 PM
IIRC, the Utah law specifies that Winchester .30-30s must be used.  That round will definitely do the job.
t-shirt canons would have been a lot more entertaining.
Title: Re: Supreme Court rejects firing squad appeal
Post by: rich_t on June 18, 2010, 05:20:10 PM
Foxnews showed a picture of the chair after the deed was done.

Somebody shot high.

Title: Re: Supreme Court rejects firing squad appeal
Post by: PatriotGame on June 18, 2010, 10:10:21 PM
The tragedy here is NOT that the state, mandated by moral citizens, executed this man.
The tragedy is the state was FORCED to execute this man to protect itself and carry out the citizens mandate.